[stevyy]

Originally posted by Adonis

Gays should go to the mosque and protest as should Jews and Christians...

...so dumb rofl

[Jan]

Originally posted by Repo

... This is gonna get messy, but here goes

-This woman in no way imposed on others freedom. She did the opposite, much like a black person protesting a KKK meeting. She has exercised her First Amendment Right to freedom of speech and freedom of petition to take a stand and make a point she believes in. Whether or not one agrees with her point, she has the right to make this and arguing she should be legally prohibited is actually stripping her rights. Likewise, no one at this assembly was stripped of their rights. Her actions do NOTHING to limit what others can and can't do (well, I guess they can't sit in her seat, but cry me a river. That goes for everyone)
-The entire issue with opposing gay marriage is because the homophobes are imposing their own beliefs upon others. It's literally the exact opposite of what you're suggesting as far as freedom and comes across 100% hypocritical

But this woman is wrong for doing exactly that? Also, verbal abuse isn't acceptable either. I do agree with this though, as does the U.S. constitution. Thus why Westboro isn't banned even though we can ALL agree they're backwards loons

I don't judge her actions. It's not my problem, really. I just said it was stupid of her to go there. She probably wanted to get kicked out for publicity, so that she'd get caught kicked out on camera. I don't like it because it's obviously aimed against Trump's views and he has the right to speak and believe in them. To clarify, I'm not a Trump supporter, but I don't follow blind liberalism either.

And yes, they had the right to kick her out. It was Trump's meeting and so it was obvious it's gonna happen. This can be compared to a situation in the fan zones watching a soccer match. There are separate sectors for supporters of each team for a reason. You just don't go there because... well, you don't.

And I'm not going to get into a discussion on gay marriage here as I used it only as an example and this thread doesn't concern the rightness of it.

Verbal abuse is not acceptable since when? It's everywhere, whether you want it or not. You used it in your post, as well.

[Nialler]

Originally posted by Brunette Ambition

what do you think of rosa parks? was she also an attention-*****?

No but what kind of random comparison? She was Christian and faced completely different obstacles so we may go through a list of all social activist who ever lived but what's the point? Your overdramatic post doesn't respond to any argument mentioned in this thread.

[stevyy]

its not the fact that she went there but people attacking her. i guess it was good that she went there because it proves that the majority of trump's supporters are morons, racists and dumb.

[Lararen]

The fact that this is a discussion and people are defending the fact that she was thrown out ( due to her religion ) of a political rally in a country that is based on political and religious freedom is just a mess... USA right now is trying so hard to be Rome before the fall and France before the revolution.

[Nialler]

Originally posted by stevyy

its not the fact that she went there but people attacking her. i guess it was good that she went there because it proves that the majority of trump's supporters are morons, racists and dumb.

Your conclusion says more about you and your logic.

[Adonis]

Originally posted by stevyy

...so dumb rofl

That's the point.....

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Nialler

No but what kind of random comparison? She was Christian and faced completely different obstacles so we may go through a list of all social activist who ever lived but what's the point? Your overdramatic post doesn't respond to any argument mentioned in this thread.

Deflection at its finest

It responds to the argument that people who protest intentionally aren't all bad people like you seem to think.

[stevyy]

Originally posted by Nialler

Your conclusion says more about you and your logic.

i hope so. i hope my views are the opposite of yours.

[LoKoPaNdA]

Originally posted by Nialler

No but what kind of random comparison? She was Christian and faced completely different obstacles so we may go through a list of all social activist who ever lived but what's the point? Your overdramatic post doesn't respond to any argument mentioned in this thread.

Oh, so if she had been Muslim she would have been an attention *****?

[Repo]

Originally posted by Nialler

No but what kind of random comparison? She was Christian and faced completely different obstacles so we may go through a list of all social activist who ever lived but what's the point? Your overdramatic post doesn't respond to any argument mentioned in this thread.

Really?

And this woman did something SIMILAR to Rosa Parks, thus the comparison. She personally believed she saw discrimination (whether you agree or not) and made a stand against it. Both intentionally protested. Neither is an attention *****

[Corsola]

Originally posted by popmagic

Again, I never said you were ignorant. I said you needed to get your head out of sand, the fact you mention comprehension when I never once used the word ignorant. Giggles tbh. I just think you refuse to see it as a threat to your lifestyle if those supposed Muslims get accepted by American society, it is better to battered by fellow liberals myself rather to see them suffer later. If I can show some of you the horrible ways they see us fit to live in, I am glad.

That's... almost exactly what the idiom means. If I changed ''ignorant'' in my sentences to ''I needed to face the facts'' my point would not only mean the exact same thing but my sentences would also be grammatically correct still. All I did was shorten it.

Another straw man argument, by the way. You have a habit of using them.

[popmagic]

Originally posted by Adonis

The Crusades say hello. Israelis land theft. Christians killing off the Indians and stealing their land....same thing goes for Africa and South America etc.... No religion is blameless in this area and what Isis is doing now is nothing on the scale of what Christians have done throughout history.

Completely true. Christians have done horrible things in the past. But now look at them, count the number of countries with decent human rights, living conditions, freedom to speech etc., what percentage is Christian? We live in now, today, the past is in the past. ISIS is killing humans right NOW. Muslims are against human freedom NOW. Don't give me western Muslims are different cuz I know for a fact the moment they rise in power they'll start banning your bacon.

[Manimuni]

Islam isn't violent? I couldn't tell with all the terrorism and violence that happens specifically in the name of Islam and punishing infidels. That's why Trump wants to TEMPORARILY bar NONCITIZEN Muslims from entry; to protect Americans.

[Elusive Chanteuse]

lmfao @ you have a bomb. i'm sorry but this is just so ignorant you can't do nothing but laugh.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Lararen

The fact that this is a discussion and people are defending the fact that she was thrown out ( due to her religion ) of a political rally in a country that is based on political and religious freedom is just a mess... USA right now is trying so hard to be Rome before the fall and France before the revolution.

She wasn't thrown out because of her religion, mostly.

It was just her being a protestor . However the vitriol she received was uncalled for and exposed the islamophobics who follow Trump

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA

Oh, so if she had been Muslim she would have been an attention *****?

Wait I didn't even see that

[Minajesty]

Originally posted by Nialler

No but what kind of random comparison? She was Christian and faced completely different obstacles so we may go through a list of all social activist who ever lived but what's the point? Your overdramatic post doesn't respond to any argument mentioned in this thread.

Not at all, though.
The real random comparison was yours about PDA in a religious-related event, but okay.

[Repo]

Originally posted by Manimuni

Islam isn't violent? I couldn't tell with all the terrorism and violence that happens specifically in the name of Islam and punishing infidels. That's why Trump wants to TEMPORARILY bar NONCITIZEN Muslims from entry; to protect Americans.

Not that Islam ISN'T violent based on what the Quran says (it's Muslims who aren't. Well, mostly) but.... really? There's terrorists of all religion. I take it all Christians are violent too?

[Corsola]

Originally posted by Nialler

No but what kind of random comparison? She was Christian and faced completely different obstacles so we may go through a list of all social activist who ever lived but what's the point? Your overdramatic post doesn't respond to any argument mentioned in this thread.

Why do people always respond to analogies like this? It's a pet peeve of mine. It's an ANALOGY for a reason. They're not saying every single thing about it is the same, they're saying a concept behind it is the same. Rosa Park's actions and this woman's actions are comparable even if the situations aren't.