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				'Ride' is going to SLAY in 2016    
			
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 I've been waiting for that definite smash for so long   
Also Tear In My Heart my get re-released.    
 
  
 
 
  
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				the gift card effect might push hello for another 1m ? 
			
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 What?    you really think she'll have a like 800% increase?  
 
  
 
 
  
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				New Americana had been in the 120 for months she finally hit top 100 and keeps increasing poor atrl. 
			
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 This!!!
 
I've been keeping track on that along with No Role Modelz, Say It, and Don't slowly inching up the itunes charts.  
 
  
 
 
  
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I've been keeping track on that along with No Role Modelz, Say It, and Don't slowly inching up the itunes charts. 
			
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 I don't think say it and don't will go too high they are amazing songs but I doubt they'll crossover. White iverson seems to be the one that could crossover.
 
Glad to see role modelz    
 
  
 
 
  
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				New Americana had been in the 120 for months she finally hit top 100 and keeps increasing poor atrl. 
			
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 It could be #1 for months and that won't change what that song is + it's lyrics. 
 
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				I've been waiting for that definite smash for so long   
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 Ride has to be a huge hit in the summer. The song is so great    Kings.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				I don't think say it and don't will go too high they are amazing songs but I doubt they'll crossover. White iverson seems to be the one that could crossover. 
Glad to see role modelz    
			
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 The thing is Don't is doing great on streaming so it stand a chance of going top 10 but Say It is like pure R&B so IDK. Also I think No Role Modelz could be Cole's biggest hit. The fact it's doing this well when the album already sold over 1 million.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				It could be #1 for months and that won't change what that song is + it's lyrics.  
Ride has to be a huge hit in the summer. The song is so great    Kings.  
			
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 Some ass on the youtube comments was talking **** about twenty one pilots being garbage and ranting about how great Nicki Minaj was and that they can never get on her level.   
The idiot even said she write, sings, raps, and produce.    
 
  
 
 
  
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				The thing is Don't is doing great on streaming so it stand a chance of going top 10 but Say It is like pure R&B so IDK. Also I think No Role Modelz could be Cole's biggest hit. The fact it's doing this well when the album already sold over 1 million. 
			
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 Say it will probably stay an urban/rhy don't has a bit more potential out of those two. I doubt it'd be bigger than work out that still his biggest hit    it crossed over to pop back then GOMD has potential too they just need to get rid off that long ass intro :biblio.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				I don't think say it and don't will go too high they are amazing songs but I doubt they'll crossover. White iverson seems to be the one that could crossover. 
Glad to see role modelz    
			
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 Don't is actually doing better than Say It, White Iverson, or NRM on streaming (even though WI is the only one charting on pop radio, at #45 on AS+R):
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10. Don't 
20. White Iverson 
23. Say It 
(not in T25). No Role Modelz
 
No matter how they do on sales, though, I don't think any of them will become big crossover hits. White Iverson will probably stall out in the 20-30 range of pop radio (as most urban songs do), and it unsurprisingly has had horrible pop callouts. Don't hasn't gotten any pop radio support yet, and if it does, I don't have a reason to believe it'll do any better than White Iverson.
 
On the Hot 100, I don't think any of them will threaten to sneak into the top 10. I'd love to be proven wrong, though.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				Say it will probably stay an urban/rhy don't has a bit more potential out of those two. I doubt it'd be bigger than work out that still his biggest hit    it crossed over to pop back then GOMD has potential too they just need to get rid off that long ass intro :biblio.  
			
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 Only time will tell. I just wished Kendrick got a hit off of TPAB, sigh hopefully it can after the Grammys.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				Don't is actually doing better than Say It, White Iverson, or NRM on streaming (even though WI is the only one charting on pop radio, at #45 on AS+R): 
 
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10. Don't 
20. White Iverson 
23. Say It 
(not in T25). No Role Modelz 
 
No matter how they do on sales, though, I don't think any of them will become big crossover hits. White Iverson will probably stall out in the 20-30 range of pop radio (as most urban songs do), and it unsurprisingly has had horrible pop callouts. Don't hasn't gotten any pop radio support yet, and if it does, I don't have a reason to believe it'll do any better than White Iverson. 
 
On the Hot 100, I don't think any of them will threaten to sneak into the top 10. I'd love to be proven wrong, though. 
			
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 You remember a time when most of the top ten was urban, it's coming again soon.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				You remember a time when most of the top ten was urban, it's coming again soon. 
			
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 Urban hits have always done Well on streaming tho. They slay on streaming and do bad on sales they don't buy the songs    
I don't see any Kendrick songs being hits tbh. I'm not gonna lie I don't like his music this era but I lived for all his singles from his last album. Drank still slays my life.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				You remember a time when most of the top ten was urban, it's coming again soon. 
			
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 I don't, actually. I've only been following the charts since 2010 (seriously so since 2012).
 
Pop radio listeners still seem reluctant to supporting urban songs. Most of them get abysmal callouts. You can have great rhythmic/urban radio support and strong streaming but still miss the top 10 (see Jumpman right now as an example). As it stands right now you either need extremely strong streaming or big pop radio support to get a big urban smash.  
 
  
 
 
  
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 Fff hmmm if I remember correctly those are the times when it was basically the AirPlay thread. Pop songs with good sales would chart low even tho they were selling great because the urban songs would be the ones on the radio despite selling less. Glad it's not based on AirPlay anymore    
 
  
 
 
  
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				Fff hmmm if I remember correctly those are the times when it was basically the AirPlay thread. Pop songs with good sales would chart low even tho they were selling great because the urban songs would be the ones on the radio despite selling less. Glad it's not based on AirPlay anymore    
			
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 That's the point I was making and you even said urban songs do well in streaming and that's why urban music has slowly been inching up the last few years. Sales are down very bad but even that is becoming very urban.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				That's the point I was making and you even said urban songs do well in streaming and that's why urban music has slowly been inching up the last few years. Sales are down very bad but even that is becoming very urban. 
			
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 What I meant is that pop 
Songs had no chance back in the day. Now it's really well balanced back in the day only urban songs were big hits because of AirPlay only. 
 
I find streaming more fair because it's what people actually wanna hear whereas radio they can easily manipulate that.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				What I meant is that pop 
Songs had no chance back in the day. Now it's really well balanced back in the day only urban songs were big hits because of AirPlay only.  
 
I find streaming more fair because it's what people actually wanna hear whereas radio they can easily manipulate that. 
			
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 Pop songs still did very well it was just hard for them to get to the number 1 spot. Nowadays it's hard for an urban artist to even go top 10 and a lot of it has to do with the new rule allowing anything to chart. So you have artist like Drake, Nicki, and Taylor taking up too much of the charts with their album tracks.  
 
  
 
 
  
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 Bryson's longevity is great. He's itching to explode in 2016. 
 
Week 1: Bryson Tiller - Trapsoul - SEA+TEA: 31,755 | Pure: 23,667 
Week 2: Bryson Tiller - Trapsoul - SEA+TEA: 17,376 | Pure: 9,203 
Week 3: Bryson Tiller - Trapsoul - SEA+TEA: 15,767 | Pure: 7,136 
Week 4: Bryson Tiller - Trapsoul - SEA+TEA: 15,582 | Pure: 6,494 
Week 5: Bryson Tiller - Trapsoul - SEA+TEA: 18,883 | Pure: 7,924 
Week 6: Bryson Tiller - Trapsoul - SEA+TEA: 19,779 | Pure: 7,954 
Week 7: Bryson Tiller - Trapsoul - SEA+TEA: 21,924 | Pure: 8,751 
Week 8: Bryson Tiller - Trapsoul - SEA+TEA: 21,976 | Pure: 8,395 
Week 9: Bryson Tiller - Trapsoul - SEA+TEA: 22,929 | Pure: 8,698 
Week 10: Bryson Tiller - Trapsoul - SEA+TEA: 26,136 | Pure: 11,856  
Week 11: Bryson Tiller - Trapsoul - SEA+TEA: 26,108 | Pure: 8,722 
Week 12: Bryson Tiller - Trapsoul - SEA+TEA: 28,628 | Pure: 9,568  
Total SEA+TEA: 266,843 | Total Pure: 118,448 
 
He's #6 on iTunes Albums even though he released October 2nd. He hasn't really left the Top 20 since release. 
 
I hope he does similar to The Weeknd/Fetty in 2016 although it'll probably be limited to Urban support with no Pop support. 
  
 
  
 
 
  
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 The week before the boost last year: 
1. 288,000 UPTOWN FUNK - Mark Ronson f/ Bruno Mars  
2. 244,000 TAKE ME TO CHURCH - Hozier  
3. 228,000 BLANK SPACE - Taylor Swift  
4. 214,000 THINKING OUT LOUD - Ed Sheeran  
5. 209,000 WASTED LOVE - Matt McAndrew  
 
So the #5 notably bigger than this week's #1. 
 
  
 
 
  
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