Well, regardless I hope it works out for you!
Maybe the Dean will be able to fit you in in time!
Thanks for that advice, I'll totally mention that in the letter! Is there a certain time I should send it in or does it matter? I'm planning on sending one this weekend but I don't know if I should wait to send it in with my new scores and everything or not.
Hmm, when do you get your new scores? I don't think the time of sending your letter really matters, as long as you have an ample amount of new information/accomplishments to include in the letter. Don't just say "Thanks for the opportunity, you're still my #1 school, please consider me, blah blah blah". So if you don't have much new information to send immediately, at least wait until you have some new (and higher ) test scores.
Your application won't be reviewed again until they start reviewing RD applications, so I really don't think there is a benefit on sending one immediately. You could call them and get their opinion, of course.
Also, I don't mean at all to be a Debbie Downer of any kind because even getting a deferral from Harvard is a huge accomplishment, but according to Harvard's admissions statistics for this year's EA round, they accepted 918 students, deferred 4,673 students, and denied only 464 students. So they deferred about 10x the students that they denied. This isn't uncommon among top schools because it helps keep their acceptance rate low (more people to deny in the RD round). I'm not saying at all to give up hope, but just recognize that there were a lot of other deferred students too that will be added on top of the tens of thousands RD applicants. But you may be at the top of the list for deferred applicants, so work your hardest to send them some new accomplishments with a letter of continued interest and you may very well make it
I only warn you because I was deferred from ED by Northwestern, and they only defer about 100 applicants and end up accepting half of them. I was really hopeful about that because I had a 50% chance of getting in, but didn't and the sting of getting strung along by your #1 school like that really hurts if you don't make it.
The only thing that worries me about Vanderbilt is it being down South and I saw it was rated one of the worst schools for LGBT kids.
This is all from memory, so don't quote me, but I think Vanderbilt has a really good LGBT institutional support network. One of the reps they sent kept touting it.
Why do people drop classes?
I mean, if you don't understand the classes or are going to get an F, then I understand that.
But what if you get a D, which is technically passing but not receiving credit - you probably lost some or all the money so why not continuing taking the class??
Well, for one thing, I'll be lucky to get a B in accelerated Chemistry, a 5 credit class, which is quite a big hit to my GPA. I don't think I even want to do pre-med anymore so it's pointless to have that on my transcript. Yeah, it would suck putting in all that work for nothing, but at least I learned that I have little interest in pre-med. Also, my university paid for almost everything, so I wouldn't be losing very little of my own money (which is a loan anyway).
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Do you remember what it was specifically or would any of those books help?
That book sounds like Barron's ACT 36, which I used and it helped me raise my ACT from a 31 to a 34 (one stupid section point from a 35 ). I also have this very useful book called the ACT Black Book in ebook form if you want me to send it to you
I go to OSU (Ohio, not Oregon). My financial aid was really messy (divorced parents, dad makes bank and mom does not), and OSU was practically a free ride. I came from an underperforming high school anyway, so I welcome the idea of another "challenge", so to speak.
Free is always good Graduating debt free is truly a blessing. Where you go for undergrad isn't all that important anyway from what I've read; the prestige schools like Columbia and Wash U offer is more important with graduate degrees and such.
I don't even go to Wash U anymore (Georgia State University now) but I'm thinking of going back.
What would you say the chances of me transferring to UPenn, Harvard, Boston College, Dartmouth, Yale, Tufts, or Amherst College are?
I go to a small state school, have a 3.9 GPA, Treasurer/Secretary positions in two important multicultural groups, a couple of internships, part time job, first generation college student. I'll have my final grades from my first year & midterm grades from my sophomore year. My problem is my low high school GPA (3.1) and mediocre SAT score.
Hmm, when do you get your new scores? I don't think the time of sending your letter really matters, as long as you have an ample amount of new information/accomplishments to include in the letter. Don't just say "Thanks for the opportunity, you're still my #1 school, please consider me, blah blah blah". So if you don't have much new information to send immediately, at least wait until you have some new (and higher ) test scores.
Your application won't be reviewed again until they start reviewing RD applications, so I really don't think there is a benefit on sending one immediately. You could call them and get their opinion, of course.
Also, I don't mean at all to be a Debbie Downer of any kind because even getting a deferral from Harvard is a huge accomplishment, but according to Harvard's admissions statistics for this year's EA round, they accepted 918 students, deferred 4,673 students, and denied only 464 students. So they deferred about 10x the students that they denied. This isn't uncommon among top schools because it helps keep their acceptance rate low (more people to deny in the RD round). I'm not saying at all to give up hope, but just recognize that there were a lot of other deferred students too that will be added on top of the tens of thousands RD applicants. But you may be at the top of the list for deferred applicants, so work your hardest to send them some new accomplishments with a letter of continued interest and you may very well make it
I only warn you because I was deferred from ED by Northwestern, and they only defer about 100 applicants and end up accepting half of them. I was really hopeful about that because I had a 50% chance of getting in, but didn't and the sting of getting strung along by your #1 school like that really hurts if you don't make it.
I'm taking the test in January but they said they would get my scores in time. But I'll wait regardless so I can plan it out and see if I can add anymore accomplishments that I didn't get to add when I first applied.
Oh wow, that damn College Confidential must have played me. They said that if you were deferred at Harvard it mostly meant that you were in but they could only accept a certain amount of kids.
You were deferred at Northwestern? That was my second choice school.
Lord almighty this is so unsettling now. I thought that if I got deferred at Harvard I had a good shot at the other schools on my list.
But thanks for that information! My school is praising me as this grand person who is off to set these extraordinary goals and accomplishments now because I wasn't denied at Harvard. Let me just keep this information private so I can continue living for the applause .
i didnt do ED at northwestern and i wish i would have tbh
im never gonna ****ing get in
I applied ED without even having toured the campus, they probably thought that was questionable I just KNEW it was perfect for me, ugh. In Chicago, beautiful campus (from the pictures), obviously an amazing college. I'm going to try transferring after my study abroad next year.
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What would you say chances of me transferring to UPenn, Harvard, Boston College, Dartmouth, Yale, Tufts, or Amherst College are?
I go to a small state school, have a 3.9 GPA, Treasurer/Secretary positions in two important multicultural groups, a couple of internships, part time job, first generation college student. I'll have my final grades from my first year & midterm grades from my sophomore year. My problem is my low high school GPA (3.1) and mediocre SAT score.
So you'll be applying as a junior transfer? They will care very little about your high school GPA and SAT score. Actually, I don't think you'll even need to send your SAT score as a junior transfer, not sure about your transcript tho.
They'll care much more about your college performance, and you're clearly doing quite well, so with good essays you probably have a good chance check the transfer stats for some of those tho, I don't think Yale or Harvard accept many transfers but I might be wrong.
Free is always good Graduating debt free is truly a blessing. Where you go for undergrad isn't all that important anyway from what I've read; the prestige schools like Columbia and Wash U offer is more important with graduate degrees and such.
I don't even go to Wash U anymore (Georgia State University now) but I'm thinking of going back.
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College wasn't a huge thing where I'm from, so I was pretty lost in the process. Now that I know it, I feel like I'm gonna do much better applying for grad schools (like applying to more than 4 schools ).
I applied ED without even having toured the campus, they probably thought that was questionable I just KNEW it was perfect for me, ugh. In Chicago, beautiful campus (from the pictures), obviously an amazing college. I'm going to try transferring after my study abroad next year.
ive toured it and
its honestly amazing, its not my top choice though thats why i didnt do ED
Well I did it ED, so I have to take back all my other apps (my #2 was USC)
I got in to Tulane, ASU, and LMU though before I got my Vandy acceptance.
Where did you see that it wasn't good for LGBT kids? My tour guide when I went there was LGBT and said they were super gay friendly
Oh nice! My mom is such a mess for giving me a fake article (or it was super old). It did look like it was a blog though .
But I'm most likely applying to Cornell, Columbia, Northwestern, Stanford, UCLA, Duke, Vanderbilt, New York University, Georgetown, Boston College, Dartmouth, and then University of Michigan or Michigan State so I have one secured school.
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This is all from memory, so don't quote me, but I think Vanderbilt has a really good LGBT institutional support network. One of the reps they sent kept touting it.
Oh. My mom most likely found some super old article. She printed it out for me and gave it to me saying it's this anti-LGBT school. Knowing her, she probably photoshopped it so I wouldn't consider it anymore .
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That book sounds like Barron's ACT 36, which I used and it helped me raise my ACT from a 31 to a 34 (one stupid section point from a 35 ). I also have this very useful book called the ACT Black Book in ebook form if you want me to send it to you
Alright thanks! I'll definitely find that book somewhere!
But yeah, if you have that book in ebook form, I wouldn't be opposed to using it.
I'd honestly really appreciate it!
Citrus's Message to the Over-Achieving High School Seniors
Hunties, I know you're all super duper stressed right now with apps and decisions. And it's good you're worried because it shows that you're conscientious students. But, in the chance that you don't get into your Top 10 US News school, or are deferred, or rejected or what not, just remember: You will live if you go to a different school. I was heartbroken when I found out I had to turn down a #4 school for a #50, but I've since come to realize that I'll be fine.
Look at PhD program candidates at places like UChicago, Yale, MIT, Harvard, etc. They aren't all from Ivy Leagues! Coming from a state school or smaller private school can give you an advantage in the sense that you're an outlier for those prestigious grad programs. And I know you've heard this before and are tired of it, but it's the student who makes the education, not the institution. If you want to be the top of your field, your success or failure depends on you, not the name on your degree.
More than that, being rejected is a good kind of humbling. Harvard doesn't want you now? Work your ass off and, in 4 years (or less!), show them they made a mistake. One decision made by a panel who has never met you is not going to determine the trajectory of your professional life. All of you will be just fine, remember that.
Oh nice! My mom is such a mess for giving me a fake article (or it was super old). It did look like it was a blog though .
But I'm most likely applying to Cornell, Columbia, Northwestern, Stanford, UCLA, Duke, Vanderbilt, New York University, Georgetown, Boston College, Dartmouth, and then University of Michigan or Michigan State so I have one secured school.
I looked at Cornell but then I thought since I'm from Phoenix I'd probably die of cold or something That's an awesome list tho! NYU gives terrible aid which is why I didn't apply damn college tuition!
ASU was my safety and they just accept anyone with over a 2.5 and isn't a felon
I applied ED without even having toured the campus, they probably thought that was questionable I just KNEW it was perfect for me, ugh. In Chicago, beautiful campus (from the pictures), obviously an amazing college. I'm going to try transferring after my study abroad next year.
So you'll be applying as a junior transfer? They will care very little about your high school GPA and SAT score. Actually, I don't think you'll even need to send your SAT score as a junior transfer, not sure about your transcript tho.
They'll care much more about your college performance, and you're clearly doing quite well, so with good essays you probably have a good chance check the transfer stats for some of those tho, I don't think Yale or Harvard accept many transfers but I might be wrong.
I'll be transferring as a second semester sophomore. Oh yeah, I don't think Harvard accepts transfers at all. I just need to go a top school in the Northeast.
I'm taking the test in January but they said they would get my scores in time. But I'll wait regardless so I can plan it out and see if I can add anymore accomplishments that I didn't get to add when I first applied.
Oh wow, that damn College Confidential must have played me. They said that if you were deferred at Harvard it mostly meant that you were in but they could only accept a certain amount of kids.
You were deferred at Northwestern? That was my second choice school.
Lord almighty this is so unsettling now. I thought that if I got deferred at Harvard I had a good shot at the other schools on my list.
But thanks for that information! My school is praising me as this grand person who is off to set these extraordinary goals and accomplishments now because I wasn't denied at Harvard. Let me just keep this information private so I can continue living for the applause .
Hmm, I guess I'm not too familiar with Harvard's deferral process since I never even dreamed of getting in there I mean, just getting deferred means you DESERVE to get in but they obviously can't accept every qualified applicant since they take less than 2,000 a year.
Sis, that definitely means you have a good shot at your other schools! if you weren't Ivy material, they would've rejected you. I didn't post the numbers to discourage you, I just don't want you to get your heart set on Harvard like I did with Northwestern thinking that I was almost guaranteed to get in. Keep your mind open to all of your other choices because they're all amazing options
Is there a certain time I should send it in or does it matter? I'm planning on sending one this weekend but I don't know if I should wait to send it in with my new scores and everything or not.
and the sting of getting strung along by your #1 school like that really hurts if you don't make it.
Graduating debt free is truly a blessing. Where you go for undergrad isn't all that important anyway from what I've read; the prestige schools like Columbia and Wash U offer is more important with graduate degrees and such.
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