[Skywalker]

[Giselle]

Originally posted by Chanel.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/

Just look at ALL OF HIS ARTICLES.

An obsessed, threatened Bernster if I ever saw one.

Oh yes, I just dragged him yesterday. We went back and forth for a bit.

[BlueTimberwolf]

Remember this?



Welp, it turns out not only did Obama in fact lie (Hilary and Bernie are pushing healthcare for illegals), but the implications are even worse than previously thought. Wall Street Journal posted this today.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-obam...ion-1449187858

When President Obama announced his executive action, he acknowledged in his televised speech the concern that such immigrants “would take our jobs” and “stick it to the middle class.” He assured us that this is “not what these steps would do.” But he didn’t consider how this new edict would interact with his other legal inventions, namely ObamaCare.

The government’s petition says that the executive action intended to provide “work authorizations” so that undocumented immigrants could find jobs in the U.S. without working illegally for less than market wages, which might harm American workers. But wait: Employers aren’t required to offer ObamaCare coverage or subsidies to these immigrants. The statutory language in the Affordable Care Act says that only “lawful residents” are eligible, and the government’s petition specifically notes that the immigration action does not “confer any form of legal status in this country.”

In short, companies will be encouraged to hire these immigrants over U.S. citizens. ObamaCare requires employers to offer all full-time employees health insurance that meets the law’s standards. For businesses that offer health-insurance coverage, the government enforces this rule by imposing a penalty of up to $3,000 a year for each full-time employee who receives a federal subsidy, a proxy for each full-time employee who doesn’t receive compliant coverage. The penalty is triggered if a single full-time employee purchases coverage on the marketplace and receives a subsidy.

But none of this matters if your employees are immigrants freed up by Mr. Obama’s executive order. Companies could save $3,000 in penalties or the cost of insurance—about $3,300—for every one of these immigrants they employ over a U.S. citizen or lawful resident.

It's like the Universe wants Trump to win the Republican nom

[Adonis]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

Remember this?



Welp, it turns out not only did Obama in fact lie (Hilary and Bernie are pushing healthcare for illegals), but the implications are even worse than previously thought. Wall Street Journal posted this today.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-obam...ion-1449187858



It's like the Universe wants Trump to win the Republican nom

You can actually get your business shut down in some states if they catch you hiring illegal immigrants.

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by Adonis

You can actually get your business shut down in some states if they catch you hiring illegal immigrants.

Except that law is not at all enforced (particularly under Obama), plus with Obama's executive action he is trying to pass it will be LEGAL to hire them anyways.

Also very telling that the WSJ who hates Trump waited to release this in the wake of San Bernadino to bury this

[Reza]

I Really want trump to win the nom. Hilary will EVISCERATE him in the debates and the dems will get 4 more years easily

[Mean Trees]

People are saying Bernie's policies are unrealistic? Take a history lesson. All Bernie wants to do is bring back 1945-1973 (aka the Golden Age of Capitalism - look it up) policies. Everything he wants has been done in the USA or elsewhere before. All Hilary is going to maintain the current secular stagnation (Look THAT up too).

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Mean Trees

People are saying Bernie's policies are unrealistic? Take a history lesson. All Bernie wants to do is bring back 1945-1973 (aka the Golden Age of Capitalism - look it up) policies. Everything he wants has been done in the USA or elsewhere before. All Hilary is going to maintain the current secular stagnation (Look THAT up too).

They're not saying it's unrealistic has its never been done before but it will never happen given the current state of politics

A socialist president and a republican congress? Good luck with that highly dangerous $15/hr you speak of

Universal healthcare just like Norway and Finland? Yeah that'll never happen either

His policies sound cute on paper but not doable

[Giselle]

CNN/ORC poll:
@realDonaldTrump 36%
@tedcruz 16%
@realbencarson 14%
@marcorubio 12%

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[Damien M]

Originally posted by Mean Trees

People are saying Bernie's policies are unrealistic? Take a history lesson. All Bernie wants to do is bring back 1945-1973 (aka the Golden Age of Capitalism - look it up) policies. Everything he wants has been done in the USA or elsewhere before. All Hilary is going to maintain the current secular stagnation (Look THAT up too).

Bernie's ideas aren't unrealistic, they've been done in Scandinavia, Germany etc.
The thing is, he doesn't know how to implement/finance them. Taxing the mythical 1% and 'Wall Street speculation tax' is like, a joke.
Anyway, his campaign is more or less over/no chance so we should move on to discussing potential running mate picks for Hillary.

[Skywalker]

Originally posted by Giselle

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The establishment of the GOP must be upset that a total joke like Trump and someone they despise like Cruz are doing so well in the polls this late on. It's practically unprecedented.

[Giselle]

Originally posted by Damien M

Bernie's ideas aren't unrealistic, they've been done in Scandinavia, Germany etc.
The thing is, he doesn't know how to implement/finance them. Taxing the mythical 1% and 'Wall Street speculation tax' is like, a joke.
Anyway, his campaign is more or less over/no chance so we should move on to discussing potential running mate picks for Hillary.

I kinda hate how we don't find out running mates until like August.

Julian Castro, Tim Kaine and Cory Booker are the names I've seen thrown around the most.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Giselle

I kinda hate how we don't find out running mates until like August.

Julian Castro, Tim Kaine and Cory Booker are the names I've seen thrown around the most.

Well it'd only make sense lol. We shouldn't worry about running mates until we're the nominee.

If Clinton is the nominee I feel like she'd go totally left field with her pick I don't see her choosing the "popular" choices

[Retro]

Originally posted by Mean Trees

People are saying Bernie's policies are unrealistic? Take a history lesson. All Bernie wants to do is bring back 1945-1973 (aka the Golden Age of Capitalism - look it up) policies. Everything he wants has been done in the USA or elsewhere before. All Hilary is going to maintain the current secular stagnation (Look THAT up too).

Drink that Bernie Kool-Aid.

The unrealistic part of his ideas and the crap he slings around is getting literally any of it passed and finding a way to finance it (he can not do the first and has not demonstrated any viable means of the latter).

Oh, and let's also not forget how real life economists agree that $15 is too high for a national minimum wage.

[RatedG²]

I'm kinda glad this thread has the super interested political junkies only for some reason.

Like I don't agree with many of you on things (looking at you BlueTimberwolf ) but wow that other Donald Trump thread open to the public is a MESS. They are just posting unconfirmed rumors and passing it off as truth nnn

[Giselle]

It's about to get REAL soon.

We have the Holiday period where people aren't paying too much attention to politics and then the primaries one month after.

[LuLuDrops]

Trump Bringing the holiday cheer.

I wonder how close the GOP selection will be, just like there are those cringing there are those rooting for the Don in the Republican party.

I hope it's not Carson

[BlueTimberwolf]

To be fair to Trump's supporters, they got behind him before he starting going off the deep end the past month or so. I doubt the majority of them support things like banning all Muslins

[Achilles.]

"We're losing a lot people because of the internet, and we have to talk about closing that internet up in some way." - Trump

Does that mean he thinks we're losing jobs because of the internet and he wants stricter regulation on that, or that his candidacy is losing support because of the internet and wants greater restrictions to make it harder to criticize him? What's the context here?

[Citrus]

Originally posted by RatedG²

I'm kinda glad this thread has the super interested political junkies only for some reason.

We're like a base