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Originally posted by Chanel.
But that leaves the whole question: what was the "huge" hint from the premiere?
Wouldn't it make more sense for it to be Pete because of that scene with the Red Devil costume when Grace yells about him being the same age?
I'd love it if it's her and she dies because she's awful, but I can see how the Pete theory lines up. But I also see it being Grace because of that phone call Pete had earlier - either way we know for sure it's not JUST him.
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Probably the fact that she stated her motivation to want to destroy the current state of Kappa and honor her mother.
And it's definitely not that hint of Pete; that was in Hell Week, and Ryan said the hint was specifically in the Pilot.
Meanwhile, Pete is not a Red Devil. He may have killed some people (Maybe Boone, maybe Chad) but he is not the Red Devil. There's only one left. And it's Grace.
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Originally posted by C/H/A/N/E/L
Grace is the killer. She legit thought she was the bathtub baby because Gigi convinced her that she was. She, Gigi & Boone then commenced killing in order to get revenge for what happened to the bathtub baby's mom and Gigi's sister who killed herself.
Then Grace found out about Gigi being in the asylum with the twins, and she knew she wasn't in an asylum with her, so she started to raise some QUESTIONS, and that's what the scene where she confronts Gigi with the painting was about.
And the scene the two shared where they were shopping for clothes was actually about them trying to shift the blame onto another suspect-- either Feather or Cathy, and clearly it worked for Cathy in the long-run.
Grace then realized how much of a loose cannon Boone was and killed him, then killed Gigi for lying to her about everything.
But some theories say that Pete killed Boone (and possibly Gigi) for some reason or another and they seem to think he used his RD costume to sneak around and get in with the Red Devils, which I suppose is plausible but not likely.
And obviously, there's some other things we haven't learned, but it'll all tie together on Tuesday when we learn the truth (which is that GRACE IS THE KILLER) and she'll explain everything. I have a suspicion she possibly feels guilty since she was tricked into it, but perhaps she's gonna reveal herself to be evil and sneaky af.
Either way, Grace is the third Red Devil and we're going to find out that the reason she got away with it is because her bitch-ass ACTUALLY got away with pretending to be Nancy Drew. She deviously convinced everyone she wasn't a suspect by pretending to be the frontwoman of the investigation to FIND the killer.
Clever bitch. Ready to watch her perish.
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Watching Grace as the killer is actually the only way I can enjoy her tbh...
I think if you re-watch some of the scenes throughout the season, more of the scenes where she drones on endlessly about how she wants to join (and take down) Kappa to feel closer to her mom, her convos with GiGi and Wes screams someone who is totally unhinged.
Specifically her scene with Pete where he tells her he doesn't want to sleep with her (DENIED!) you can tell she wasn't happy about that AT ALL. You saw a little twinkle in her eye. Funny to watch.
And yes, I must say, even throughout the over-the-top, campy, ridiculous goodness of the show Grace has been one clever bitch because she had (and still has) a majority fooled.
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Originally posted by Chanel.
But that leaves the whole question: what was the "huge" hint from the premiere?
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I honestly think they're several hints tbh.. just how blatantly open Grace is with her alibi. All of her scenes compiled pretty much give you a reason to suspect her as the Red Devil.
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I don't get the Grace/Skyler hate. 
She's playing the part that was given to her. Any character annoyances should be blamed on the writers really. And let's be real, she's one of the better actresses on the show.
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Skyler is doing a great job. Grace is just an annoying character.
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I don't get the Grace/Skyler hate.
She's playing the part that was given to her. Any character annoyances should be blamed on the writers really. And let's be real, she's one of the better actresses on the show. |
Skyler's doing a fine job of acting. She's been dodgy a couple of times, but she's not bad. We just hate the character.
Though, the best acting is clearly Jamie, Emma, Lea, Glen & Nasim, and then probably Niecy & Billie.
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Have you guys ever seen this show from the mid-2000s called Reunion? The premise of SQ immediately reminded me of that show. Secret babies and mystery killers from 20 years ago and all of that included.
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Will they re-new the show or what? & If YES what's the next season is going to be about cuzz they pretty much covered everything on this season 
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I'd say Lea & Jamie are the strongest actors of the show. Emma & Glen would follow. Worst goes to Predatory Lez and Rodger/Dodger. Absolutely horrible.
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What a let down her being the killer doe
A Hotel tea
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Is Grace the killer or is this just a theory because yall are talking like it's the truth.
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Perched for final episode.
Wednesday can't come sooon 
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Originally posted by BlackStar_93
I don't get the Grace/Skyler hate.
She's playing the part that was given to her. Any character annoyances should be blamed on the writers really. And let's be real, she's one of the better actresses on the show. |
I love Skyler Samuels she's a wonderful actress.
It's just the character Grace can be a bit of a drag to watch in certain scenes if you view her from the perspective of innocent, goody-goody Sherlock Holmes. The other characters are so campy and over the top and have all these great lines.
Now flip-side and have her be this demented person, who put on a front for the whole season and came up with/assisted in this major revenge scheme it just adds this whole other colorful (or dark depending on your view) layer to Grace.
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I didn't know Chanel #3's mom in real life is Princess Leia 
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Alright. I think I cracked the code.
The show did a great job of making the possibilities endless.
Hester actually resembles the lady in the bathtub, Boone and Wes the most. Also, her inconsistencies with her back brace were questionable. She was able to just not have it on because Chanel said. She was also shockingly morbid and hell bent on "replacing" Chanel. However, she is neither the RDK or the bathtub baby. She's just a red herring. In fact, all of the other Chanels are just a distraction.
For the longest time I thought Pete was our RDK. They set him up as a red herring from the beginning. He was in the coffee shop to hear about the plan with Ms. Bean. He admitted to stalking Chanel. He had a red devil costume. The only thing he was lacking was a solid motive. We found out later he was rejected from the DDS and that he had some form of relationship with Boone (apparently Boone was his insider). That's actually when I realized it wasn't Pete. They have been adamant in saying that they made it painfully obvious in episode 1 who the killer is. If it was Pete, they would have made his motive clear from the beginning.
That leaves Grace and Chanel as the only people who could be the killer, as they were the only two people who heard the deep fryer plan. Even if Boone was the one to turn the deep fryer on, one of them would have had to tell him. Also, they were both absent when Deaf T. Swift got her head mowed off and they were both at KKT when homegirl got an acid tan.
What tied it all together was the Thanksgiving episode when the Red Devil killed Gigi. That meant that the RDK also killed Boone, not Pete like I originally suspected. Also, Chad confronts Pete about a secret relationship with Boone and we find out that Boone was Pete's informant. That to me is when I knew the other killer had to be Grace. I imagine that Boone had been feeding Pete info that lead him to stalk Chanel. If Chanel was was the other killer, Boone would have been trying to get Pete off her trail, or would have killed him early on. He's probably the reason Pete learned so much about it in the first place. It also explains Gigi referring to the RDK as siblings. Boone is confirmed to be Grace's half-brother.
My thoughts were confirmed in the Black Friday episode when the killer attacks the Chanels. Finally we see Chanel get attacked and Grace isn't around. Grace, however, does know they are going black Friday shopping.
I imagine that once Gigi showed up, she essentially recruited Grace, which is why the killings start with Ms. Bean. It was the perfect start to her killing spree and it put all the suspicion on Chanel, just like Boone tried to do.
Im not 100% on this yet, but I think the other bathtub baby is Chanel. This ties into the theory on Grace and Boone trying to set her up. Remember the hag had the babies and then went into the mental institution. The babies would have been orphaned. That means if Chanel had been successfully framed, her motive would have been revenge once it was revealed that she was adopted. They had it all planned out. Then Boone had to go and try to **** Zayday, then killed her boyfriend. His return made him an obvious suspect, and he had become unpredictable. Grace got rid of him to make sure he wasn't able to mess things up further.
My predictions for the finale are that everyone not returning next season will die. I think the Chanels will kill Dean Munsch early on, but the killings will continue. Maybe the RDK will kill Pete or Denise. The blame then falls back to Wes, who Grace will kill in hopes that the blame will fall on him and it will go away. I haven't figured out Chanel's adoption angle 100%, but it will be brought up somehow before Wes dies. Grace admits to being the killer and goes to jail forever. She campus opens again. The end.
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Originally posted by C/H/A/N/E/L
Skyler's doing a fine job of acting. She's been dodgy a couple of times, but she's not bad. We just hate the character.
Though, the best acting is clearly Jamie, Emma, Lea, Glen & Nasim, and then probably Niecy & Billie. |
Gurl what? Glen is an awful actor, can't wait for him to be slashed, hopefully.
because I want Chanel to have a hot boy toy in S2.
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Glen is a great actor. Chad has just become an annoying character. There is a difference. But he's dead anyway so whatever.
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WAIT Y'ALL
The dumb blonde back in 1995 was named Coco Cohen.
Coney said his real name was Aaron Cohen.
Was he possibly killed as a direct part of the revenge rather than just as a random kill?
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Originally posted by C/H/A/N/E/L
WAIT Y'ALL
The dumb blonde back in 1995 was named Coco Cohen.
Coney said his real name was Aaron Cohen.
Was he possibly killed as a direct part of the revenge rather than just as a random kill? |
You just realised this?
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I thought Ryan said that the killer is someone we meet in the pilot. When did he say there's a hint in episode 1?
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