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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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FBI reportedly stepping up email investigation by interviewing aides and officials and a few other people.
Focusing on whether ANYONE breached policy.
I really think hat somehow, someone other than Hillary is going to take the hit for this. 
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Originally posted by Achilles.
Huckabee, Cruz, Jindal attending religious liberties conference pushing for death penalty for gay people: http://foxrad.io/1MUiKfH |
I've said it time and time again, Ted Cruz is the most evil out of anyone here.
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Huckabee, Cruz, Jindal attending religious liberties conference pushing for death penalty for gay people: http://foxrad.io/1MUiKfH |
Saw this on Rachel Maddow last night. The fact people support this. 
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Originally posted by Chanel.
FBI reportedly stepping up email investigation by interviewing aides and officials and a few other people.
Focusing on whether ANYONE breached policy.
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Which is sad, because I'm sure she gave the order, or the administration permitted this as a whole.
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Which is sad, because I'm sure she gave the order, or the administration permitted this as a whole.
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It's sad that this was investigated at all.
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Which is sad, because I'm sure she gave the order, or the administration permitted this as a whole.
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Do you think these underlings are going to fall on the sword for Hillary or make a deal? Of course she knew exactly what was going on and the administration is on record saying it was not permitted.
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Originally posted by Chucko
Do you think these underlings are going to fall on the sword for Hillary or make a deal? Of course she knew exactly what was going on and the administration is on record saying it was not permitted.
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Please link me to where the administration - or any administration - stated that Hillary's server setup was not permitted. And I don't mean that dumb little "oh I didn't know" comment Obama made, I want authoritative statements like "we did not or would not allow this."
The fact that this is all even being made into a big deal is absolutely ridiculous.
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Originally posted by Chucko
This has nothing to do with that. The FBI is still going to do their job and Clapper's office has said that the emails claimed to be falsely classified as Top Secret is just a rumor. If that was the case it would be such a big deal, Clapper himself would have had a presser about it right away.
The GOP should leave Benghazi alone.
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It doesn't matter...unless the FBI actually indicts Hillary; which they won't...the public was satisfied with her testimony. They no longer care about her emails...it's a moot point.
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Originally posted by Javan
Then why has RC(ATG) tried to turn this into a point on black culture?
Besides, as a white person you still had to face less obstacles as a African American, so your alleged success story doesn't quite refute much.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal
There's "judge"ment and then there is being denied loans, job opportunity and persecution from cops, non of which has been suffered on the basis of being "fat".
Completely ostensible. The middle class isn't shrinking because Americans are lazy, it's shrinking because the economy is rigged. When some Americans are working upwards of 2 jobs and still struggle to make ends meet, and can't afford college tuition how do they crawl out of poverty? When black college graduates are just as likely to be employed as a white high school dropout, how do they crawl out of poverty?
Sure some my slip through the cracks and have a stroke of luck, but there isn't a seat at the table for everyone and anyone who has put in the hard work. The American Dream no longer exists. You need to widen up about the real world a bit, hun.
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It is a problem with their culture..."some" have this "poor pitiful me" mentality. Like they are still owed for something that happened 50-60 years ago. A vast majority of Americans are not racist, some still are (but that's life) you always gonna have that.
People have persecuted Jews for 1000's of years...do you see them looting businesses, and destroying public property? No.
Please! Of course people have been denied jobs, and career advancement on the basis of their weight, looks, and sexual orientation. And as for the police, you act respectful towards them, they will be respectful towards you...it's that simple. Yes you have bad apples like that cop in Charleston, SC but he was swiftly dealt with. I've seen cops slam unruly white people on the ground...and nobody batted an eye.
Anybody can achieve anything in America, black, white, hispanic, whatever...the American dream is there for those that truly want it.
People can live in a depressing world, and mope around in the unfairness of life they want to...but if they expect some "white knight" politician to come in and save them, they gonna be waiting for eternity. 
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
It is a problem with their culture..."some" have this "poor pitiful me" mentality. Like they are still owed for something that happened 50-60 years ago. A vast majority of Americans are not racist, some still are (but that's life) you always gonna have that.
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Just out curiosity. Where do you live?
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
People have persecuted Jews for 1000's of years...do you see them looting businesses, and destroying public property? No.
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Jews were given 30,000km² of land in which they stand sovereign, along with 3 Billion dollar checks from the US government as recompense for their persecution. I'm struggling to see why you'd draw this comparison 
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
Please! Of course people have been denied jobs, and career advancement on the basis of their weight, looks, and sexual orientation.
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- Source Needed. Because last time I checked, someones weight, looks and sexual orientation can not be inferred from a resume.
Of course it is indeed legal to fire employees on the grounds of sexual orientation in some states. And when the LGBT community pressure their local government to rectify this issue, you would not chastise them with inapposite buzzwords like "government co-dependency", I'm sure.
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And as for the police, you act respectful towards them, they will be respectful towards you...it's that simple.
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We all wish life was that simple but unfortunately that is not the case. Countless retired officials have come foreword with their exposés regarding the underlying anti-black sentiments within their police departments. It transcends an issue of "respect" once officers are routinely arresting and fining black people without an actual warrant. The more prevalent issue today is that many cops disrespect the constitution.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
Anybody can achieve anything in America, black, white, hispanic, whatever...the American dream is there for those that truly want it.
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That's really optimistic point of view and I good attitude to have in life. Except it's not real life. If you work hard, you alone may find yourself at the top, as Oprah and Whoopi did, true. But as I said, there are not enough seats at the table for anyone and everyone. We are not talking about citizens on a case by case basis, we are talking about the black community at large, or society in general at large, even. Economically speaking the American dream (for all) is literally unfeasible. There are not enough jobs, for starters. It's really nice that you're ambitious and what not but be careful to not confuse your ideals with truth and reality. They are 2 very different things.
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Originally posted by Chanel.
Please link me to where the administration - or any administration - stated that Hillary's server setup was not permitted. And I don't mean that dumb little "oh I didn't know" comment Obama made, I want authoritative statements like "we did not or would not allow this."
The fact that this is all even being made into a big deal is absolutely ridiculous.
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Link me an official State Department document that says she was allowed to set it up without any government security measures in place.
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Originally posted by Javan
Just out curiosity. Where do you live?
Jews were given 30,000km² of land in which they stand sovereign, along with 3 Billion dollar checks from the US government as recompense for their persecution. I'm struggling to see why you'd draw this comparison
- Source Needed. Because last time I checked, someones weight, looks and sexual orientation can not be inferred from a resume.
Of course it is indeed legal to fire employees on the grounds of sexual orientation in some states. And when the LGBT community pressure their local government to rectify this issue, you would not chastise them with inapposite buzzwords like "government co-dependency", I'm sure.
We all wish life was that simple but unfortunately that is not the case. Countless retired officials have come foreword with their exposés regarding the underlying anti-black sentiments within their police departments. It transcends an issue of "respect" once officers are routinely arresting and fining black people without an actual warrant. The more prevalent issue today is that many cops disrespect the constitution.
That's really optimistic point of view and I good attitude to have in life. Except it's not real life. If you work hard, you alone may find yourself at the top, as Oprah and Whoopi did, true. But as I said, there are not enough seats at the table for anyone and everyone. We are not talking about citizens on a case by case basis, we are talking about the black community at large, or society in general at large, even. Economically speaking the American dream (for all) is literally unfeasible. There are not enough jobs, for starters. It's really nice that you're ambitious and what not but be careful to not confuse your ideals with truth and reality. They are 2 very different things.
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I lived in South Carolina till I was 12...then Jamaica till I was 18, then Canada for a few years, before moving back to SC a few months ago, so it's not like I haven't seen racism in action.
I used the Jews as example because they don't use racism against them as an excuse not to achieve things in life... through hard work, and determination they got to high positions in society. Imagine if all these black people screaming about the injustices of life would do that, how much better off their standard of living would be.
I work at a Hospital, and most of the elderly African American's I meet say they are embarrassed by how the younger generation is acting: "acting like fools" are their exact words. The way to fix the cultural problem starts with good parenting.
Don't get me wrong... protesting is appropriate, but violence has no place in the protests... it just creates animosity and division.
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[Sanders] i am sick and tired of hearing about her damn emails  [/Sanders]
Let the investigation continue in peace without speculating on what could and couldn't happen. The truth, either way, will be revealed
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Christe should easily win this first debate. 
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Was Christie actually demoted? Poor guy
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They're already having another debate?
I watched the last GOOP one, but IDK if I can take another.
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Was Christie actually demoted? Poor guy
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He said it actually helped his fundraising. 
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Every damn republican keeps saying
"Who's gonna beat Hillary Clinton?"
"We have to beat Hillary Clinton"
"Let's elect a real conservative to beat Hillary Clinton"
Like not only are they not focusing on the issues and keep talking about someone who could very well not be the nominee but it's so disrespectful to Sanders. Like they are all counting him out, just awful.
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The desperation of Bobby Jindal. Sit down n' shut up son, the people don't want you to be their president.
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"She will completely nationalize the health care system and we need someone who can beat her to stop her. She's becoming more left because of her socialist opponent"
Wow Christie is disrespectful, not even naming Sanders 
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