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Discussion: Artists who never evolve?
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Originally posted by chilicheese01
Rihanna hasn't changed since she scored it big with Good Girl Gone Bad... Plz stop.
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GGGB is HEAVILY different from LOUD or Unapologetic, please do not try it.
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Originally posted by sxmescudi
Trey Songz has to be the best example
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Yup!
"Ooooh! Sex Anthem!" "King of R&B!" I'm so hurt ,girl!" "Alcohol bop!"
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Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e
Katy evolved from OOTB to TD but it stopped there.
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This. But that's still more evolution than artists like Ariana Grande have shown. I don't think there's an artist who evolved less
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Originally posted by daking17
That's not what the OP is asking.
The attempt is there whether you think it was try hard or not.
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Just because the attempt was there doesn't mean the execution was there 
Ultimately the album ended up being the same rehashed sound of her previous work but with, I guess you could say, tryhard attempts to resonate with the new generation with taglines such as 'surfboarT' 'i woke up like dis' - i mean it was such a hollow attempt
that's not artistic evolution sis, that's called jumping on the miley cyrus bandwagon to seem cool and relatable to the new surge of social media kids
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Originally posted by Misanthrope
evolution is not just about changing the dominant instrument used throughout an album.
its about evolving as an artist and as a person within your music. showing some semblance of growth within the sound of the record and what you are saying with it. lana del reys ultraviolence being guitar heavy contrasting with born to dies minimal urban beats doesnt exemplify any sort of evolution on its own, because there was no evolution in what she was actually saying or doing with it. one album just happens to be guitar driven, but its all the same **** different day.
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The direction, production, visuals, and lyrics have not been the same 
In that case Gaga only truly changed from the fame to the fame monster. The rest has been the same Gaga, preaching about art and acceptance. Let's invalidate everything in between.
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Originally posted by daking17
That's not what the OP is asking.
The attempt is there whether you think it was try hard or not.
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Attempt? She enlisted the hottest producers of the minute to give her a typical electro-R&B-pop sound.
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Originally posted by kennylovesRihanna
You think Loud and Unapologetic sound alike? Girl bye!
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Yes, they are both pop albums with her three best friends StarGate and Ester Dean on board to write and produce. Sorry if the truth hurts.
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P!nk since like 2006
Kelly Clarkson
Adele
Jessie J
Avril Lavigne
Demi Lovato
Katy Perry
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Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan
Wowz, for someone with the username Evolution, you know diddly squat about it!
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He's just a bad & bitter troll. 
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Originally posted by Starburst
Sorry I thought evolve meant becoming a better artist.  How is switching genres evolution? |
Overdose is one of her most liked songs, nice try though
I'd love for you to tell me what evolution means then, since going from CRUNK to POP is not evolution 
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Originally posted by Misanthrope
Everything you have described is all different shades of beige. Same ****, different day. That is not exemplary of evolution. That is not exemplary of any sort of growth. Its the same exact subject each time just viewed one inch to the left with every album, so to speak.
I also picked out Kelly Clarkson, P!nk, and Katy Perry. The statement applies to an array of artists being mentioned in this thread because I keep seeing people respond with "this album sounds different than this album so they evolved". One album sonically being different than another is not the sole means of gauging what "evolution" actually is. Lana just happens to be the most controversial and relevant example of that, because all of her albums are honestly just different shades of the same color.
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Dude, what do you expect from a human being? If what you say is real not even artists like Kate Bush or PJ Harvey or Tori Amos evolved as artists from the debut to the follow-up or the third one.
Every artist stays in a specific lane, changes maybe over the decades not within two years.
Different shades are added here and there.
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Originally posted by Repo
This. But that's still more evolution than artists like Ariana Grande have shown. I don't think there's an artist who evolved less
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Well to be fair Ariana and Katy have a relatively low number of eras. We'll see where they are next era.
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justin has changed his sound tho. justified was pop/rnb, fs/ls was electropop and 20/20 pt 1 was vintage.
part 2 was a tired uninspired rehash that destroyed his career tho.
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Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan
Wowz, for someone with the username Evolution, you know diddly squat about it!
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Telling your producers you want to work with another sound =/= Evolving as an artist.
We will see Rihanna "evolve" the day she writes and compose a song BYHERSELF.
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Pitbull, but I like his music anyway.
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
Jason Derulo, Bruno Mars, Avril Lavigne and P!nk are some.
GaGa never evolved from her outrageous schtick. |
The entirety of 2015 proves otherwise.
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Aaron Carter and Justin Beiber. Do some squats bby.
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Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e
Well to be fair Ariana and Katy have a relatively low number of eras. We'll see where they are next era.
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Agreed on Katy. IDK about Ariana. Most artists show SOME kind of growth three eras in.
Katy: OOTB v. Prism
Gaga: TF v. BTW
Brit: BOMT v. Britney
Madonna: Madonna v. True Blue
Christina: CA v. B2B
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Originally posted by jackieshann
Just because the attempt was there doesn't mean the execution was there
Ultimately the album ended up being the same rehashed sound of her previous work but with, I guess you could say, tryhard attempts to resonate with the new generation with taglines such as 'surfboarT' 'i woke up like dis' - i mean it was such a hollow attempt
that's not artistic evolution sis, that's called jumping on the miley cyrus bandwagon to seem cool and relatable to the new surge of social media kids |
It's like you've not even listened to the album. 
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Originally posted by ontherocks
Dude, what do you expect from a human being? If what you say is real not even artists like Kate Bush or PJ Harvey or Tori Amos evolved as artists from the debut to the follow-up or the third one.
Every artist stays in a specific lane, changes maybe over the decades not within two years.
Different shades are added here and there.
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What about Radiohead, though? 
In fact, Coldplay and Muse have also changed their sound a bit... Coldplay has moreso, but it applies to both bands, honestly.
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Originally posted by Aciid
The direction, production, visuals, and lyrics have not been the same
In that case Gaga only truly changed from the fame to the fame monster. The rest has been the same Gaga, preaching about art and acceptance. Let's invalidate everything in between. |
All shades of the same tone. But I really can not expect her rabid stanbase to comprehend her lack of dimension.
One cannot argue however that Lady Gaga has not evolved. Theres a core message that I think every artist holds, but at the end of the day she does not project the exact same aesthetic with each record nor the exact same message.
If you honestly can't comprehend the difference here than theres really nothing more to discuss.
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Originally posted by kennylovesRihanna
Yes I was a huge stan until IASF
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and you can say with a straight face that back in 1997 when she first debuted w/ DC, you foresaw her vocals becoming stronger, her becoming one of the best performers and biggest popstars of our time, the difference in image between DIL, IASF and BEYONCE and her going from a song like MM&I to a song like Haunted?
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Originally posted by sxmescudi
Trey Songz has to be the best example
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Yuup!
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