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Chart Listings: iTunes Discussion Thread (2015-2017)
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Originally posted by Chanel.
So someone clarify for me - does this include the instant grats or whatever, or is this the prediction of what the final HDS, Billboard-reported figure will be without the instant gratification downloads included? |
Nobody is 100% sure about that yet. We will have to wait and see...
There are a couple of different theories out there, but nothing certain.
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Originally posted by Chanel.
So someone clarify for me - does this include the instant grats or whatever, or is this the prediction of what the final HDS, Billboard-reported figure will be without the instant gratification downloads included?
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Kworb's prediction doesnt include instant grats I think.
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Just... Just. We all were making jokes on KWORB on his 1M prediction at first... now... It's HISTORY. 1.2M!!! I think she sold around 900K+ by now.
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Originally posted by dwuw
wasn't BTW released on a friday
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Yes, (soon-to-be) Mrs. Taylor Kinney sold 448,000 in its first three days, and then 509,000 in the following, full first week, which was phenomenal.
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Originally posted by C_Colstead
'Hello' is now predicted to sell 1.2m in the US, according to the latest set of Kworb predictions:
http://kworb.net/cc/ |
Expected a bit more tbh after all that green 
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So if Kworb's sales are all independent of instant gratification numbers, the figure including them - i.e. the number of legal paid downloads in total - could be as high as 1.5-1.6 million or something.
Woo Jesus.
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Originally posted by Kworb
Updated estimates
1. Hello 1,150,000
2. Sorry 268,000
3. Hotline Bling 166,000
4. The Hills 88,000
5. What Do You Mean? 81,000
6. Stitches 78,000
7. Ex's & Oh's 75,000
8. Wildest Dreams 74,000
9. Downtown 70,000
10. Like I'm Gonna Lose You 67,000
11. Die A Happy Man 67,000
http://kworb.net/cc |
Todays
1. Hello 1,2 (+50k)
2. Sorry 266,000 (-2k)
3. Hotline Bling 163,000 (-3k)
4. The Hills 86,000 (-2k)
5. What Do You Mean? 79,000 (-2k)
6. Stitches 77,000 (-1k)
7. Ex's & Oh's 76,000 (+1k)
8. Wildest Dreams 74,000 (=)
9. Downtown 69,000 (-1k)
10. Like I'm Gonna Lose You 67,000 (=)
11. Die A Happy Man 66,000 (-1k)
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Originally posted by umich
Yes, (soon-to-be) Mrs. Taylor Kinney sold 448,000 in its first three days, and then 509,000 in the following, full first week, which was phenomenal.
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Expected as the sales climate is healthier back then  What Adele is doing is extraordinary. Truly ending the digital era with a FINAL BANG!  in a declining state
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Originally posted by simmnfierzig
Expected a bit more tbh after all that green |
You expected a little bit more than 1200k? What the ****?
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Originally posted by Costea
You expected a little bit more than 1200k? What the ****?
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Well yeah, she's flopping and can't even meet our reasonably low expectations. 
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1.2M  UNBELIEVABLE.
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Kworb's algorithm can't handle her
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Originally posted by Chanel.
So if Kworb's sales are all independent of instant gratification numbers, the figure including them - i.e. the number of legal paid downloads in total - could be as high as 1.5-1.6 million or something.
Woo Jesus.
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Wait so Kworbs's estimates don't include instant gratification? 
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Originally posted by One Nation
Wait so Kworbs's estimates don't include instant gratification? |
Nope.
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Originally posted by One Nation
Wait so Kworbs's estimates don't include instant gratification? |
OH **** I THOUGHT IT DID
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Originally posted by Chanel.
So someone clarify for me - does this include the instant grats or whatever, or is this the prediction of what the final HDS, Billboard-reported figure will be without the instant gratification downloads included?
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It includes part of the instant grats, the people who first bought the single and later pre-ordered the album. Those single sales count towards the iTunes song chart, but they become instant grats before the end of the reporting period.
So the HDS figure will likely be lower than my estimate, while the total number of people who bought the song is (much) higher than the estimate.
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Originally posted by One Nation
Wait so Kworbs's estimates don't include instant gratification? |
Depends on Itunes, if they incliude insta grats then so does Kworb estimates
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Originally posted by Kworb
It includes part of the instant grats, the people who first bought the single and later pre-ordered the album. Those single sales count towards the iTunes song chart, but they become instant grats before the end of the reporting period.
So the HDS figure will likely be lower than my estimate, while the total number of people who bought the song is (much) higher than the estimate.
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So we can reasonably conclude she has a very real shot at over 1 million HDS, considering the fact that most people who will preorder the album won't buy the song first?
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Hmmm, according to BB 'Hello' sold +450k copies in 2 days. According to Bieber's label, Sorry was downloaded 154,000 times in the same period
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