[Duca]

Originally posted by Ady.

Only on ATRL.

So PRISM, BEYONCE and all other 3M+ selling albums are flops then?

You were talking about the US.

PRISM and BEYONCÉ are both bigger than any Rihanna album in the States, by the way.

[XStaticProcess]

All of Rih's albums are good except the first 2.

Rihanna's music>>>>Ariana's music

[XStaticProcess]

Originally posted by lonnie

It didn't even outsell MOTS

MOTS: Over 650K
ME: 633K

Mess

I was talking about WW sales tho

[bluth]

Originally posted by XStaticProcess

Rihanna got her first #1 in her 2nd era tho

problem was like less than 1% from that position.

i'm not going to say it again but this is a prime example of hindsight bias. people like to believe that rihanna was always this 'flawless queen' with her 'iconic decade of hits', but people thought she was just 'here now, gone tomorrow' before umbrella.

let's not pretend she was leagues ahead of ari at the same point in their careers.

[lonnie]

Originally posted by bluth

rihanna's career wasn't exactly 'impressive' before gggb. radio has chosen ari as their new it girl, it's that simple.

So Focus will be Arianal's Umbrella?

[Robert]

With large tours it's better to look at the average grosses tbh

1989 World Tour-$3.05M

Born This Way Ball-$1.88M

20/20 Experience World Tour (for Duca)-$1.78M

Red World Tour-$1.74M

Mrs Carter World Tour-$1.7M

Prismatic World Tour-$1.31M

Monster Ball-$1.12M

ArtRave-$1.05M

[Duca]

Originally posted by lonnie

It didn't even outsell MOTS

MOTS: Over 650K
ME: 633K

My Everything was about three times more successful than Rihanna's debut.

[Ady.]

Originally posted by Duca

You were talking about the US.

PRISM and BEYONCÉ are both bigger than any Rihanna album in the States, by the way.

That's true.

GGGB era was more successful tho.

[Evolution]

Yours Truly is better than any rih album and metacritic agrees.

[NX127]

Rihanna's will end up the most successful and longest lasting pop star on the planet.

[XStaticProcess]

Originally posted by bluth

problem was like less than 1% from that position.

i'm not going to say it again but this is a prime example of hindsight bias. people like to believe that rihanna was always this 'flawless queen' with her 'iconic decade of hits', but people thought she was just 'here now, gone tomorrow' before umbrella.

let's not pretend she was leagues ahead of ari at the same point in their careers.

Might be true but Ari's 3rd album won't come close to GGGB imo

[bluth]

Originally posted by collin

I love TTT filler. It works really well for some reason.
Watch N Learn is an amazing song, as is Drunk On Love

drunk on love is okay but that's only because of the really unimaginative use of intro. she doesn't actually bring anything new or better to it.

[XStaticProcess]

Rihanna is like the 2nd most global female artist after Madge.US Receipts don't mean much

[thirdward]

ANTi should've been BEYONCÉ's name tbh

[Bounce]

CDT tour average

468k

Gaga never had an average lower than 1m.

[z10]

Originally posted by Robert

With large tours it's better to look at the average grosses tbh

1989 World Tour-$3.05M

Born This Way Ball-$1.88M

20/20 Experience World Tour (for Duca)-$1.78M

Red World Tour-$1.74M

Mrs Carter World Tour-$1.7M

Prismatic World Tour-$1.31M

Monster Ball-$1.12M

ArtRave-$1.05M

BTW Ball

[XStaticProcess]

Originally posted by Evolution

Yours Truly is better than any rih album and metacritic agrees.

Only 9 critics reviewed Yours Truly so that might be the reason

[Ady.]

Oh wow Ariana is already 22?

Rihanna already had like 10 #1s by the time she turned 23.

[FAME.]

Originally posted by bluth

problem was like less than 1% from that position.

i'm not going to say it again but this is a prime example of hindsight bias. people like to believe that rihanna was always this 'flawless queen' with her 'iconic decade of hits', but people thought she was just 'here now, gone tomorrow' before umbrella.

let's not pretend she was leagues ahead of ari at the same point in their careers.

Omg I was literally saying this to Ionnie just the other day when they were trying to argue with me about Rihanna being bigger than Christ at the start of their careers. Rihanna was literally kind of like irrelevant pre-Umbrella. Even with SOS.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by ultraviolento

Why would anyone stan for Xtina though

She makes terrible music

Like, I can't even name more than 5 good songs by her.