[Giselle]

Originally posted by downbywednesday

Supporting someone who is willingly and knowingly violating the Constitution and discrimination is wrong, any way you spin it.

And I'm not gay. Unlike the Clintons, sometimes I support things for reasons other than my own personal self-interests.

The Pope is not American. He doesn't live in America. In case you weren't aware, the constitution is an American document. Not only that, but not every person agrees with everything in the constitution.

[LuLuDrops]

Originally posted by iheartBrit

Also, imagine how the same people who believe it's their right to deny someone a gay marriage license would feel if they went to a grocery store to buy alcohol and a Muslim cashier said they wouldn't cash them out. They would lose their ****. There are so many other examples I could use. At the end of the day, if you don't believe in gay marriage then don't marry a person of the same sex, it's that simple. You should never be able to refuse a service to someone who doesn't practice your same religious beliefs.

Can't do the job, don't apply, I agree.

Most people only care if it's Christians having a hard time though. There is a Muslim woman who was fired for refusing to serve alcohol on flights and she said all she wanted were accommodations (her coworkers had no problem taking over that one job duty) - sound familiar? It's the same thing Kim Davis was asking for. Suddenly you have conservative media attacking the ex-stewardess yet praising Kim and even Kim herself was asked if non-Christians should be able to deny licenses and she avoided the question. The least her supporters (religious objectionists) could be is consistent and claim both should be accommodated and not trash one for wanting the same thing as the other (even if I disagree with the whole thing and in my opinion both women should be shuffled around).

[MAKSIM]

Originally posted by downbywednesday

Supporting someone who is willingly and knowingly violating the Constitution and discrimination is wrong, any way you spin it.

And I'm not gay. Unlike the Clintons, sometimes I support things for reasons other than my own personal self-interests.

What

Its morally in your interests to follow your own beliefs and violate the constitutionally backed laws if necessary if you feel strongly enough about it. That is basically what every social justice movement has done.

[Badger]

It is not a human right to withold the human rights of others

[Gabriel]

Originally posted by LuLuDrops

Thing is, she wasn't willing to give it up and just ended up holding up marriage licenses for EVERYONE not just gays for days. Luckily, it seems an agreement has been reached between all parties, but she'll still sell her story like if she was still being prosecuted today

Oh I know, she should be fired/resign.
But her refusal is another story.

[LuLuDrops]

The Dutch got gay marriage in 2001 (the first), but recently there were still a handful of refusals in the Netherlands, then they passed another law to remedy this

Kim Davis and Co. watch out

[QueenBLadyG]

It's true - but they need to give up their position in government, if they can't fulfill the duties of said position. Your religion doesn't overrule the laws of the land - or someone else's legal pursuit of happiness.

[Brian Kinney]

Are the gays complaining here Catholics to begin with? I believe in separation of Church and State so Pope, even if I love you, shush.

[cheeto]

hope her album flops

[downbywednesday]

Originally posted by Giselle

The Pope is not American. He doesn't live in America. In case you weren't aware, the constitution is an American document. Not only that, but not every person agrees with everything in the constitution.

Being on American soil and promoting a crime in America is ****ed up.

Originally posted by L/\DY G/\G/\

What

Equal Protection Clause not ring a bell?

[Ichinaru19]

I guess? Although its not free from criticism/consequences lol

[Leppie]

Originally posted by Mr. Grey

No, it isn´t.

Edit: Oh I thought he was saying that Homosexual Marriage is a human right, sorry but

I agree with him. Homosexuals never existed prior to the 60´s and it´s now destroying our civilization soooo

wtf?

[Vagabond]

Originally posted by Mr. Grey

No, it isn´t.

Edit: Oh I thought he was saying that Homosexual Marriage is a human right, sorry but

I agree with him. Homosexuals never existed prior to the 60´s and it´s now destroying our civilization soooo

delete it fat

[Cannabis]

Giving me '''LET ME TALK ZHI ABOUT GAGA COZ AM ABOUT TO RELEASE SOMETHING''' teas

[hooky]

Crucify it fat

[Arcane_Sky]

I was rooting for him. Le sigh.

[Icarus]

Let me take the good sis out of my sig

[Disha]

Has this boosted his iTunes position yet?

[MardinBeksloy]

Some homophobe in this thread

Ew sistren, it's your right to not accept gay marriage, but bishes ain't got any right to stop people from doing so

[Qwerty1234]

Originally posted by Reader

In reality it's not as simple as that. Many officials would have taken up office before gay marriage was legalised; and the right to religious freedom is extremely important in this day and age. I'm non-religious, but tolerance has to work both ways or else it's just agenda-driven special pleading. If I were to seek a marriage and got shot down because the official felt it would harm their relationship with God, I'd respect that -tolerate it- and seek out someone who didn't feel that way. But that's just me.

Exactly.

If someone has a sincerely held belief that marrying gays is against his or her faith and would harm their relationship with their God, then I think it's wrong to force that individual to have to participate. There are plenty of other officials who are willing.

I realize that it's a very difficult issue though. Most say "do your job or quit", but that doesn't seem fair to me. It's not like jobs are falling out of the sky like mana.