| |
Celeb Photos: Gregg Sulkin uses the N-word in his Snapchat
ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 3,520
|
nn at this "white oppression" bitch poc have been oppressed all throughout history GTFO
Whites are not being oppressed just because ya'll get clocked when ya'll get out of line
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/4/2014
Posts: 8,187
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
Yeah but you can't steal someone's culture and not understand the significance of it. It can't be justified by saying 'oh, but it's in black culture and we just want to be cool!'
Just another thing white people want to take away from black people  |
using a word is stealing someone's culture?
Alright, ive heard everything now
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 4,721
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Marla Singer
I need to stop reading ATRL threads on race issues (or any other serious or sensitive topics for that matter).
 |
So do I. ATRL has a thing for making white people feel inferior. It's not cute.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 5,480
|
Quote:
Originally posted by TheLuckyOnes
Who that be in your avi? 
To white people (and others) dreadlocks are associated with hippie culture, hence the weed and oil reference (not racist).
Amandla needs to learn her place. She unnecessarily comes for people and it seems like she favors complete separate of culture rather than cultural mixing
If youre offended over the n word then maybe black culture shouldnt have it at the forefront, you know, using it as a term of endearment to one another if it "hurts" them so bad
White washing is an issue, you are correct.
Nicki used her race to get what she wanted and failed. She threw shade at taylor and miley and when both called her out, she 1. threw out the race card at taylor and 2. called miley a bitch. If she truly wanted the world to know of the imbalance in the industry shouldnt have insulted and called out celebrities that had nothing to do with her message. it became Nicki vs Taylor because of the shade she threw in her tweets rather than nicki calls out racist industry. but i digress, her intentions were for personal gain, not for the black community especially when people of color dominated the VMA Video of the year award category
All lives do matter. Blacks arent the only ones dying by the cops.
You cry so much about systematic oppression, why dont you try being a Rohingya muslim in Myanmar? You dont know true oppression. youre just weak
Are we done? I think we are done, now close your mouth
 |
So since the genocide of the Rohingya muslims by the Rakhine Buddhists happened, black people don't have a right to speak against systematic oppression? There have been many genocides and enslavement of people all around the world since the beginning of time and none of those people had it easy.... so I don't know why you're to bring up this certain situation as if the victims of the Holocaust and the blacks who were slaves in America were at Disneyland or something. Anyone can speak against systematic oppression and it's not your place to tell them how they should feel.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 12/1/2010
Posts: 23,572
|
Quote:
Originally posted by TheLuckyOnes
Who that be in your avi?
To white people (and others) dreadlocks are associated with hippie culture, hence the weed and oil reference (not racist).
Amandla needs to learn her place. She unnecessarily comes for people and it seems like she favors complete separate of culture rather than cultural mixing
If youre offended over the n word then maybe black culture shouldnt have it at the forefront, you know, using it as a term of endearment to one another if it "hurts" them so bad
White washing is an issue, you are correct.
Nicki used her race to get what she wanted and failed. She threw shade at taylor and miley and when both called her out, she 1. threw out the race card at taylor and 2. called miley a bitch. If she truly wanted the world to know of the imbalance in the industry shouldnt have insulted and called out celebrities that had nothing to do with her message. it became Nicki vs Taylor because of the shade she threw in her tweets rather than nicki calls out racist industry. but i digress, her intentions were for personal gain, not for the black community especially when people of color dominated the VMA Video of the year award category
All lives do matter. Blacks arent the only ones dying by the cops.
You cry so much about systematic oppression, why dont you try being a Rohingya muslim in Myanmar? You dont know true oppression. youre just weak
Are we done? I think we are done, now close your mouth
|
While I don't agree with Nicki and personally think she's full of BS, the reaction her tweets received said it all. 'Race card' is dismissive. When black people voice their opinions, they are dismissed like a crazy (another dismissive word) person.
The usage of the 'N' word is part of black culture and after all these years, if there is any group that should use the word, it is black people. It is the forefront because it is part of black language and that is the way it is. Black people should not have to give up the word to appease the privileged majority. Please have a seat.
Also no one is here for Oppression Olympics, so you can take several seats. The usage of #AllLivesMatter was used to take away from the message of #blacklivesmatter, a movement to that brings light onto an invisible community that is being killed by cops. Yes, we know other people get killed by cops - that is not the point here. There are a great number of black youth being killed by cops and the cops don't always get held accountable. It is a worthy cause to focus on.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 12/1/2010
Posts: 23,572
|
Quote:
Originally posted by TheLuckyOnes
using a word is stealing someone's culture?
Alright, ive heard everything now
|
I'm glad you learned something today, hope it takes you far in life.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 8/7/2015
Posts: 9,307
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
Yeah but you can't steal someone's culture and not understand the significance of it. It can't be justified by saying 'oh, but it's in black culture and we just want to be cool!'
Just another thing white people want to take away from black people |
This.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/8/2012
Posts: 928
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
Yeah but you can't steal someone's culture and not understand the significance of it. It can't be justified by saying 'oh, but it's in black culture and we just want to be cool!'
Just another thing white people want to take away from black people |
I don't see why it's "taking away", and why white people are generalized? Why can't we share the word? If someone's ancestors have never had black slaves or done anything wrong, why should they be forbidden to use the word in a friendly manner with other white people? When it's part of a culture that uses it very frequently.
In Hungarian, the word for black people is "néger", pronounced like the n word. It derives from latin and is similar in many countries and was used everywhere until the US screwed up. But other countries have nothing to do with US history, why should they have to say sorry? To most of the world it's the same as using a foreign accent. We're helping rid the word of it's hateful past and make it a word of endearment.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 11,555
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Drama
So since the genocide of the Rohingya muslims by the Rakhine Buddhists happened, black people don't have a right to speak against systematic oppression? There have been many genocides and enslavement of people all around the world since the beginning of time and none of those people had it easy.... so I don't know why you're to bring up this certain situation as if The victims of the Holocaust and the blacks were slaves in America were at Disneyland or something. Anyone can speak against systematic oppression and it's not your place to tell them how they should feel.
|
This argument can go against yours actually. Since Black people have experienced more racism than white people, it means white people can't complain about people being racist and demeaning towards them?
Don't give me the "You can't be racist to white people" That is some mythical ******** and you all know it.
If a black person says "That ****ing white bitch" It's NOT a problem and not racist.
But if a white person says, "That ****ing black bitch" then you guys want to make a big deal and have a 20 page discussion on ATRL about how all white people are racist and scum of the earth.
So many black people today have not even experienced a FRACTION of the racism and oppression that their ancestors experienced many years ago. The way people talk on this forum makes me think they've experienced slavery for themselves when I doubt anything has actually even happened to majority of them. They just like the benefits that come with it. "Oh are you saying that I can be a bitch towards white people and not get any flack and hide behind the excuse that I'm black and if you say something to me you're racist? YASSS"
That's honestly what this forum looks like 90% of the time.
I mean when you have a post that says "White people wonder why they can't use the word. Because you can't bitch. That's it."
You are the ones making this issue seem trivial and of no importance. As a black person, I find the way black people use the word but prohibit others from saying it to be extremely idiotic. I've never agreed with that logic and never will. Do you see white people calling other people white trash? Do you see hispanics calling each other wetbacks? No. So why do black people have to call each other a word that was created in a demeaning manner? This is why black people continue to find it so hard to be accepted. Always pulling illogical **** like this and blaming other people.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 9/1/2013
Posts: 3,903
|
Quote:
Originally posted by beautiful player
So do I. ATRL has a thing for making white people feel inferior. It's not cute.
|
Congrats you feel inferior on the Internet, while POC have been discriminated against for ages. Put things in perspective, SMH.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 20,070
|
im concerned about the fact that so many white people apparently use the n-word so frequently that they feel like their rights are being taken away from them when the affected group tells them to stop using an offensive slur
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/13/2012
Posts: 9,318
|
Threads about race always help me separate the TRASH from the intelligent. Loves it.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 8/7/2015
Posts: 236
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Codex
I don't see why it's "taking away", and why white people are generalized? Why can't we share the word? If someone's ancestors have never had black slaves or done anything wrong, why should they be forbidden to use the word in a friendly manner with other white people? When it's part of a culture that uses it very frequently.
In Hungarian, the word for black people is "néger", pronounced like the n word. It derives from latin and is similar in many countries and was used everywhere until the US screwed up. But other countries have nothing to do with US history, why should they have to say sorry?
|
That's not even the same and you know it.
I don't think anyone is saying that if thats how its pronounced in your language then you shouldn't say it in that context, however when you step in the english speaking world you need to understand that unfortunately the way you pronounce the word for black people has long historical connotations which make it unacceptable for usage. Why does it matter if there ancestors didn't have slaves, it's completely irrelevant, the word is derogatory no matter whether it's been 'reclaimed' white people used it (and continue to do so) as a way to demean therefore simply keep it out of your vocabulary.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 6/13/2012
Posts: 2,065
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Codex
I don't see why it's "taking away", and why white people are generalized? Why can't we share the word? If someone's ancestors have never had black slaves or done anything wrong, why should they be forbidden to use the word in a friendly manner with other white people? When it's part of a culture that uses it very frequently.
In Hungarian, the word for black people is "néger", pronounced like the n word. It derives from latin and is similar in many countries and was used everywhere until the US screwed up. But other countries have nothing to do with US history, why should they have to say sorry? To most of the world it's the same as using a foreign accent. We're helping rid the word of it's hateful past and make it a word of endearment.
|
Share?!! Ain't no sharing bih. Black people don't walk around crying about not being able to call white people white trash, honkeys, crackers, etc. so why is calling black people ***** so important to white people?
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 12/1/2010
Posts: 23,572
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Codex
I don't see why it's "taking away", and why white people are generalized? Why can't we share the word? If someone's ancestors have never had black slaves or done anything wrong, why should they be forbidden to use the word in a friendly manner with other white people? When it's part of a culture that uses it very frequently.
In Hungarian, the word for black people is "néger", pronounced like the n word. It derives from latin and is similar in many countries and was used everywhere until the US screwed up. But other countries have nothing to do with US history, why should they have to say sorry?
|
It's a family word and people who are not black are not family. This whole 'we are one race' thing does not need to apply. Though I know some white guys with really close black friends say it, and I rarely see that as being an issue.
However a bunch of 16 year old white kids throwing the word around is unsettling because they likely do not understand the importance of the word. They are mimicking from a culture that uses the word for different reasons.
In American society, the word carries weight due to its past, and it has since been modified by the people it was used to oppress. The word, till this day, is still used as an insult by white people. Black people saying the word is way different as the power has been switched. White people should honestly just let it go.
If any of you live in a community where there are open forums to discuss race, then I strongly encourage you participate!
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/12/2012
Posts: 11,474
|
Well, Gregg is British. You know how the British are...
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 10/10/2009
Posts: 10,662
|
Quote:
Originally posted by TheLuckyOnes
using a word is stealing someone's culture?
Alright, ive heard everything now
|
You won't win.
You can't argue with people who don't understand rationale thought.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 7/12/2010
Posts: 9,704
|
If you're a white person knowing the detriment behind that word, why the hell would you even question using it? Like, why would that be a thing any white person would want to do? I never understood that logic. 
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/13/2012
Posts: 9,318
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Mellark
Well, Gregg is British. You know how the British are... |
Elaborate further...
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 7/12/2010
Posts: 9,704
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Codex
I don't see why it's "taking away", and why white people are generalized? Why can't we share the word? If someone's ancestors have never had black slaves or done anything wrong, why should they be forbidden to use the word in a friendly manner with other white people? When it's part of a culture that uses it very frequently.
In Hungarian, the word for black people is "néger", pronounced like the n word. It derives from latin and is similar in many countries and was used everywhere until the US screwed up. But other countries have nothing to do with US history, why should they have to say sorry? To most of the world it's the same as using a foreign accent. We're helping rid the word of it's hateful past and make it a word of endearment.
|
Oh. Can we share the privilege too?
|
|
|
|
|
|
