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ATRL's Next Top Member Cycle 13 | EP5: Guest Judges Say!
EPISODE 5: RECEIPTS
GUEST JUDGES COMMENTS
KATIE says...
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Sam
This is pleasant enough. Maybe it’s cuz I find you to be one of the less aggressive members but the key and blackboard examples suited you better. Your clock and bus examples were a little weak, not bad, but just didn’t have the punch of an actual “hit & run.” Also, in your own words, “sometimes, less really is more.” All the extra verbiage underneath each picture was unnecessary. The judges can infer what you were intending.
Superpower
I liked it; lot of them were cute little clocks. Some were mislabeled with the wrong categories and I think I was expecting something more hard-hitting based on your descriptions but you provided receipts nonetheless.
Sub
I’m guessing the repeat was a mistake. Just be careful. As for your examples, it seems that you like to lay down the law more than clocking members in response, or at least that’s how it seems you interpreted “receipts,” which is totally fine but I’m disappointed by the lack of variety. Sad, only cuz I’ve seen snarky responses from you and they were pretty successful clocks that would have made nice additions to your bunch.
Lovesong
I get that you interpreted this challenge in your own way but like subomie, it was very one note. With all three examples, you were intent on education/sharing your opinion but ultimately, that’s what your submissions were. Opinions and sharing your experiences. Those don’t make for the strongest receipts on ATRL. Irrefutable data or quotes give posts that edge and define what ATRL calls “receipts.”
Buddy
Your first example was the best of your submissions and your third was your weakest. Overall, nice effort but I’m sensing an emotional component cutting through your posts. It’s nicely charged but with sort of a Teen Titan vibe and not the bite and polish of the Justice League. For example, the third entry wasn’t much of a receipt as much as it was you stating your opinion and not having any sort of reinforcement. That doesn’t make for a strong “receipt.”
Jake
Bit extra, bit busy, but good job. The entry suits your brand and preserves the certain...demeanor you usually portray in your posts.
Bomb
Oof at the intensity.  Good job but remember passion isn't a replacement for actual receipts, neither are YouTube videos with no explanations when the casual reader isn't too familiar with the topic.
Era
Nice and light-hearted. Very standard. But boring but can't complain.
Funky
Wtf is going on, Funky? The layout of the entries is a bit convoluted and I also feel like some of the entries were inside jokes that flew way over my head. The last example was one I kind of followed but the ultimate clock wasn’t satisfying. I know you’re better than this. I feel like you did a completely different challenge.
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ATRL's Next Top Member Cycle 13 | EP5: Judges Comments!
EPISODE 5: RECEIPTS
THE COMMENTS
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SamLast week you said you were going to take my advice to heart, and you absolutely did. This is an entry devoid of any second-guessing that doesn’t stray into arrogance (a remarkable feat to achieve). You did phenomenally this challenge, and I am so, so proud of you.
Superpower
This was an average entry. I liked the approach you took, and it was sort of similar to Sam’s in the whole “let me teach you how to clock” thing. The issue with yours is that you don’t come across as being an expert; these are middle-of-the-road to above average, but not great.
Subomie
At least you recognized that your entry was not up to your usual quality. Your receipts weren’t bad, they simply didn’t stand out. It’s difficult to quantify the amount of effort needed in a “clock” for this type of challenge, but these didn’t feel up to the rest of the competition. Another safe showing from someone I expected to be delivering winning performances.
Lovesong
These weren’t really receipts so much as examples for a “Nice Gay Liberal” branding challenge. That’s because these aren’t as combative as the posts that usually invoke receipts. Not to self-reference, but this reminds me of a transgender post I included in my receipts challenge last cycle. That’s not bad, it just stuck out to me.
Buddy
In the spirit of your posts, I’ll keep it short and sweet: These aren’t receipts (aside from maybe the third example. This is polite disagreement.
JakeKills
I don’t know what kicked in over the past few challenges, but I want you to keep it up. This was a top notch entry. Only criticism is that some points were too reliant on numbers. As in, you didn’t include reasoning of your own. That’s the only questionable thing, though. Good job.
Bomb
Am I racist if I don’t like this entry? Nah, I’m kidding. This was chill, and I always appreciate it when people use their platform/posts to fight for the underdogs of the world. I liked this and was rooting for you all the way through it.
Era
This entry was cute and thoroughly you. While your receipts weren’t always fully fleshed out, they were consistent in supporting your point. The formatting was cute as always, and this was pretty much what I expected from you when I began reading. Just be careful not to get to the point where that knowledge of how you present yourself becomes an inhibiting factor.
Funky
I throw most receipts away after I mark the purchase in my ledger, but I don’t wanna remember this one. This was God-awful in almost every way. Were you conscious when you put this together? I can’t logically follow the BB PM examples, or whatever those were. And I don’t understand why Retro would know that slightly attractive man since we all know Retro is neutered. If you make it through this round, I don’t ever wanna see **** like this again.
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I just want to stand up and give you a round of applause (applause applause). This is how you come back from near-elimination and prove that you deserved to stay! Not only is your post gorgeous, but the entire concept is so witty and perfectly executed. I also love that it clearly establishes your style of receipts: straightforward facts, no bitchy attitude. It suits you. Well done!
Superpower
This is a fairly comprehensive rundown of ATRL receipts in their most classic function. The examples don’t really stand out to me individually (though I did love the BSB stanning), but taken as a whole, your entry indicates to me that you understand this forum, and you know how to navigate it well enough to become a Top Member.
Subomie
I know you weren’t feeling confident about this challenge, but you can’t let that show. There’s probably a cute joke somewhere in this presentation, but the paper balls of disposed ideas mostly suggest that your entry was a throwaway. Not to confirm your worst fears, but…I didn’t love it. The examples showcase the thoughtfulness toward music that I’ve always appreciated about you. You’re also mostly in conversation with yourself, however, which sort of undermines the concept of a receipt.
lovesong
I like your unique spin on the challenge. It’s impressive—and rather amusing—that you found a way to clock the girls with your sincerity and thoughtfulness intact. (Just don’t get yourself labeled a Social Justice Warrior! Apparently that’s now ATRL’s biggest sin.) I have to deduct some points in my assessment for that final example, though. You turn more into Oprahsong with the college advice, and it just doesn’t fit the social issues theme.
Buddy!
For someone who likes to keep things short and sweet, you sure over-explained your entry. I didn’t need all that; you could have let the examples speak more for themselves. And despite your earlier assertion, all of them were paragraphs—and not the most compelling, to boot. There were nuggets of clockage in the mix, but the third post was just weak. It literally begged for actual receipts from Tony Bennett’s career, and there were none to be found. Given your reputation for funny retorts, I am extremely disappointed.
JakeKills
I am screaming at these examples. That’s how you do it, folks! Snappy, smart, and with just the right touch of shade. (The “Mariah Carey vs. Shakespeare” post is particularly good. Sometimes the dumbest threads inspire the best comebacks.) You’ve proven yourself this week a master of the ATRL receipt. Go forth and prosper! Your Top Member prospects just went up considerably in my estimation.
A Bomb
Your entry leaves me scratching my head a bit, because you’ve got three examples where you smartly clock insidious notions about race and racism, and two Pokemón-related posts where I don’t even see the receipts. I wish you had taken a fully unified approach, because you could have had one of the strongest submissions this week. Also, I would recommend that you theme your presentations around Disney from here on out. If you want to make that your visual signature, I can get behind it as a Top Member strategy, but the inconsistency so far can makes weeks like this one feel slightly random.
Era
This is such a cute entry! The visual humor, the playful clocks that never bite too hard, the fact that all of your receipts are about Taylor Swift—it all works together and fits a member who branded himself “benevolent.” Given your sweetness, I wouldn’t expect this week to be your forte, but you’ve handled yourself more than respectably.
FunkyDinevo
I am so confused right now. What is this supposed to be? Are you clocking in some secret language I don’t understand? Did Whitney her share her crack with you before you compiled this entry? You have about as many receipts here as Diane Sawyer. It all makes less sense than “Being Bobby Brown.”
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I really enjoyed how you presented your receipts in different forms! I won’t comment much on your aesthetics (because they were amazing, enough said). As receipts came come in many different types of ways, I think you did an excellent job with presenting your examples in ways you could use them. Just one thing, you know doggone well that Celebuzz is not an official source, but since we all know that Poker Face has sold that much in reality, it’s not that big of a deal. Great work, overall, Sam!
Superpower
You had good examples but I think some of those examples could have fallen into the same category (for example - to expose hypocrisy, against the trolls). The bright side is that you can never go wrong with an old-fashioned artist’s receipts thread (for Coldplay). The community (ATRL, in general) always looks forward to threads like this, so it’s great to see you partaking and keeping up with these stats, which can be hard work. Speaking of, you should probably get it reopened and updated soon.
Subomie
While I applaud the factual numbers in your examples (trust me, I am a suckers for data and raw.. numbers), I honestly did not see any diversity within any of the examples that you presented. It’s easy to give facts and numerical receipts when talking about your fave (or whomever), but there are definitely other ways to give examples or instances of providing a back up to something that someone is claiming.
lovesong
I can’t really tell if the first example (regarding LGBTQ+ pride parades) because it stands out of place from the last two examples that you used, which were okay to me. I liked example #2 because you actually gave insight from your point of view to someone (or people) who had no clue as to what was going on. Personally loved the third example because it’s great to be an informative source when speaking to those about making tough decisions. Although receipts don’t necessarily have to be in the form of numbers, you used your personal experiences to show what you’ve accomplished and produced. You had a slightly different approach from most of the contestants, but I think you made it work for this challenge.
Buddy!
I liked the second example that you used (regarding backing up your comments from a game that you judged), but I feel like 1 and 3 can be lumped in as one example. To be honest, I see 1 + 3 more as simple defense mechanisms than receipts, but I see what you were going for.
JakeKills
I wasn’t that impressed with the first three you provided, but example #5 (Bad Romance) blew me away totally. Although a couple of those members are known Gaga trolls (namely Swag), it’s impressive that you were able to “clap back” with those various media outlets, disproving their claim. The fourth one (regarding Taylor/Beatles) was a great use as well, seeing as the data is coming (almost) directly from Billboard. Would they have a reason to lie? Don’t answer, that’s rhetorical.
A Bomb
I didn’t really get the first one, unless you were just trying to expose the fact that he was contradicting himself. Your following four examples were diverse, but just okay. The one I was most impressed with was your one from the illegal immigrant thread, which, to me, was a perfect clock. For some reason, I don’t think your other receipts provided enough punch to get your points across.
Era
Your presentation was on point. Like an actual receipt, that’s clever, Era. I wasn’t 100% sold on your examples, but I do like the fact that your “receipt titles” were directly relating to what you pointed us to. I thought you were very creative in handling that.
FunkyDinevo
Wow, was this supposed to be a massive expose of tea? Cuz chile. I’m like whoa (where’s the good sis Mya?). but I’m not seeing what they’re supposed to show. And the receipt example with the guy in it, what was that suppose to prove or clock? I think that may have been an inside thing between you and Retro/4AM/Areola, so it kinda fell flat when you tried to present to us.
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Fierce and Love
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The guest judges this round are on point
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ATRL's Next Top Member Cycle 13 | EP5: Judges Comments!
EPISODE 5: RECEIPTS
THE COMMENTS
CUPID says...
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Sam
Let me first just say this design is flawless. But I still think Era made it in my head for some reason, it's totally his style.. But anyway, that aside - it's amazing. I liked the first two receipts, but by the time I got around to the clock it was starting to feel very "samey" (a word I just made up I presume). The last example didn't really do anything for me. Overall it was a good entry, you had artists receipts in check, and I loved the playful interactive design of your entry. But there wasn't much variety or wow factor, in the actual receipts.
Superpower
Cute, simple, sleek design. The 1st example made me welp, nice. The 2nd example isn't a receipt, it's actually an abrasive (unwarned - lucky) post (that's the members real picture by the way), there's literally no receipt involved, you just insulted somebody. I like the 3rd one, artist receipts = check. 4th one was okay, not really sold on the ignorant clocking angle. The last one does nothing for me. Overall it's a mixed bag.
Subomie
Love the design! The first example was okay.. I've mellowed out on my LGTI dragging but I still get a kii every now and then. Eh the second one i'm not sold on. The 3rd one is okay, but it's kind of common knowledge... the fourth one is the same. Mess. There's just not much variety in these receipts and you never really went into full on "clocking with statistics" kind of mode. It was all very subdued.
lovesong
Cute formatting, I like. The first one is not a receipt though. The second one is better.. but you didn't really go into much detail. I like the last one best I think. I get that you tried to take a risk with the "receipts" angle and not go for stan receipts, but some of these (like the first example) are bording on opinion, rather than actual receipts/advice. I think it's quite obvious you struggled with this round, but I'm glad you didn't sell out and try to make some stan war posts to fit in.
Buddy!
nn the first one, mess. But I agree, you had the receipts, literally - and were shunned for various reasons. Clock them henny. The second one, you literally said in the post, it's an opinion. There isn't really any receipts in the post. The third one is also an opinion. Hmm, there's really only one good receipt here sis.
JakeKills
200 songs? Why is only half the album good? Mess. Well damn, go in a bit. Eh the second one is pretty tame, especially when you credit the source you got it from. Third one is cute, poor Mariah. The fourth one is a mess, like, mess. But I love your reply. I like the last example too, I mean you pretty much clocked them all. Overall I think you did a great job, they weren't all about Taylor which i'm pleasantly surprised about.
A Bomb
The cuteness overload again. dd the first example, okay I did chuckle a bit. That's definitely a clock, props for you using your trend in there too. The second one, well damn. EDUCATE them a bit. Eh i'm not sure about the third one. I just plain don't get the fourth one. The last one was okay, but it was too similar to one of your other examples. Overall I think some of these were excellent, but 2 of your examples let you down.
Era
Cute formatting, do I even need to repeat this every round? Honestly I don't get the first one. I'm still not even sure what a Taylor Nation is and why you having friends with them is a receipt. The second one is okay, rather tame though and there wasn't much actual receipt posted. The third one would have been good if you had actually linked his old post and clocked him with it. The fourth one was okay, nothing exciting. I don't think this round really suited you, it'd be a shame to see you leave over this.
FunkyDinevo
The layout of this entry is extremely confusing. I'm not sure where one post ends and another begins. The first one, I'm just not sure.. I can kind of see where you're coming from, but that's because I was the host of the game so I understood all the drama. The second one.. eh. The Retro one I just plain don't get. How is that a receipt you just posted a picture of a guy? What does it mean? Who knows.. The last one is just confusing me. I thought you would nail this round but this is just a mess sis.
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What I really like about all this, is that even though you gave four examples for four different types of receipts, they still all kind of intermingled with each other. Now on the other hand while I say that, I also wish they didn’t intermingle with each other so much. They can still blend in for a whole as a receipt, but are still distinct different receipts. I will also say that I did like this overall aesthetic. It feels like something that could be used in like a receipts handbook for ATRL members, with slightly better coding fixes. It's cute.
Superpower
To kind of piggy back off of Sam’s comment about how I wish his examples didn’t intermingle with each other so much, this is the perfect example of what I meant. Yes, they all still have that feel of correlation, but there are distinctions for the type of receipts given. Some statistics, some swift, some personal, etc. I found these as a really good set of receipts. I did have my mod hat on, as I always do, when reading your ‘to expose hypocrisy’ receipt and thought that seemed more like flamebait. Usually when members bring up someone else’s avatar as a “clock” it is flamebait. However, the more I saw it, the avatar, the posts, I was like this is actual receipts against violence. Well done.
Subomie
They were alright, kind of weak though. I also really do not know how I feel about you using a thread, you made, asking a question as part of a receipt. It kind of feels like yeah there is information there, but you are needing validation for said receipt. That’s not really in the whole aspect of providing a receipt if you kind of need to have others back up a receipt if you show a little uncertainty with a question. Overall, nice, but to be honest just did not care for these receipts examples that showed anything.
Lovesong
Quite a different route in what is considered receipts… even though I find this hard to call these receipts. Did I enjoy reading what you provided? Yes. Very insightful. You did provide some facts, some personal real life facts that are represented in receipts; but these just felt more like overall opinions. Say had these have been comebacks from someone who posted in a thread with opposing views and provided these, it would have been a stronger valid account of receipts. You are a very insightful member that we do need more of on this forum to be honest.
Buddy
I feel like you’re in a similar boat to lovesong. I can sense where you are coming from as these being receipts-esque, but to me they just don’t scream receipts. They are more like explanations. That statement can kind of get a little confusing as in receipts you are trying to prove/disprove something with backup and in a sense of explanation. These just felt the explanation part without the trying to prove/disprove something with backup part. Maybe hyperlinks would have worked better to give it some more receipt value. The only one that really gave a receipt one was your last example.
JakeKills
To be honest you receipts started off slow, but as each example went on I get more into it and was like WOW, you brought it. The last one just kind of hit the nail on the head for me that I even had to scroll down just to see the replies for the mad Madonna stans and some giving some other kind of excuse. That is the kind of receipt digging that is great. Great job!
BTW: The Beatles are The Beatles. Taylor is Taylor. Separate great acts.
A Bomb
Oh, this Disney theme is kind of cute. I use those characters. Now to your actual receipts; I’m just a tad bit frustrated. This overall could have been a really good entry, but those Pokethread “receipts”, were they even receipts, I don’t really know, just threw the balance off everything. The non Pokethread receipts where you were actually bringing up debate, facts, sources, in a nonabrasive but still kind of feisty manner were really good receipts in my opinion [hope you caught what I was going for there]. I just wish the other two receipts fellow in pursuit or were actually deleted.
Era
Firstly I apologize for the internet issue that you were experiencing during this challenge and how fast you had to get an entry together when it finally came back. Unfortunately, that showed. These were literally my thoughts while reading your four receipts, just image the gif: “Show me the receipts.” “Show me the receipts.” “Show me the post.” “Even though we unmerged, show me the links.” It just in all needed more to show receipts because when you are providing receipts you do not want anyone to ask for more receipts. Usually it should be a one receipt check out type thing. Luckily for you, you did the give the highest priced receipt as the only that seemed more of a receipt without really anything else, except that link. Still overpriced, I’d sue.
Funky
I’m so confused. Is this some kind of National Treasure/Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego (**** that bitch for real though)/Clue type of mystery receipts? My mind just cannot pinpoint exactly the type of receipts or even if they are receipts you are trying to provide. Like I honestly do not know what else I can add which frustrates me because I want to give constructive criticism. Just when it doesn’t seem like it’s all there and rushed, it’s kind of hard to.
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that's okay y'all I was still in Disney/ vacation mode and I'm chilling with a hot French guy
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Safe to say i'll be in the bottom 2 this week  Damn.
Not shocked, honestly.
A mess @ like 3 of the judges thinking my last example wasn't a "receipt" and like three agreeing that it was the better of my three examples
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So happy to get positive comments after last week.  Thanks to you all, especially Citrus!
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Another ANTM alum |
Oh snap, it happened!
That ANTM influence just won't let up.
Marq placed third during his run on ANTM. Originally was eliminated, but then comeback during the comeback episode.
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You’re stanning a bit too much on Tay though. Remember that she doesn’t pay you
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Only one of my posts even mentioned Her. 
She doesn't need to pay me. The happiness that She and Her music bring me is worth more than money can buy. 
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Only criticism is that some points were too reliant on numbers. As in, you didn’t include reasoning of your own.
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I thought receipts were supposed to rely on numbers. Otherwise it's just a clock or a drag.
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I am screaming at these examples. That’s how you do it, folks! Snappy, smart, and with just the right touch of shade. (The “Mariah Carey vs. Shakespeare” post is particularly good. Sometimes the dumbest threads inspire the best comebacks.) You’ve proven yourself this week a master of the ATRL receipt. Go forth and prosper! Your Top Member prospects just went up considerably in my estimation.
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I wasn’t that impressed with the first three you provided, but example #5 (Bad Romance) blew me away totally
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To be honest you receipts started off slow, but as each example went on I get more into it and was like WOW, you brought it.
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Welp I'm in da bottom. Good luck to myself and whoever else is with me.
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@JakeKills - Receipts are typically based in numbers, but it lacked a personal aspect in some parts. Like, when you throw a wall of numbers at them it gets too impersonal and you lose the sheen of the clock, if that makes sense. Even so, don't get hung up on that comment. I was more just nitpicking there.
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This round was just not "me" I'm not someone who does long receipt posts, or really posts like that in general. So finding examples wasn't the easiest.
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For someone who likes to keep things short and sweet, you sure over-explained your entry. I didn’t need all that
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Usually when members bring up someone else’s avatar as a “clock” it is flamebait.
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I didnt know this. Then again I think this was the only time I clocked somebody by using their avatar. Thank you telling me.
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I’m not grading on graphics but sometimes a little intro and formatting can go a long way.
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I thought I had a very cute formatting and a cute intro 
@Cupid, my last example was very easy, straightforward receipt. I actually loved it and thought it was a great example as it was quoted by the entire thread afterwards 
When will Citrus like any of my entries? I feel like if it was up to him, I would've been already eliminated.
I'm not a mean person even though you thought so at the beginning of this competition. Countless members have said that I was very nice and friendly. You even said that my brand should've been "rude" or something like that. You probably expected bitchier clocks and receipts but that's not me
My clocks were quoted multiple times and I was the only one who presented a receipt thread to show that side of ATRL receipts.
Overall, it looks like I did great
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Then I double checked against the other judges to see if I was missing something. It looks like it was your entry that was missing something. None of the receipts really did anything for me. It seemed like you just threw together some posts that sort of had a point to them.