[Trent W]

Originally posted by Cherry

Again: why did the NFL ask Beyoncé to perform and not Britney? Why did Universal ask Beyoncé to record "Crazy in Love" for Fifty Shades of Grey when the song isn't even mentioned in the first book. Why didn't they ask Britney to record "Toxic"?

Britney was already in the SB in 2001 and knowing Beyonce and her tactics Im not sure they asked her but the other way around.

[Cyanide]

Two classics! For me it was CIL before, especially when I was growing up but more recently it's Toxic

[hellocory]

Originally posted by Eternium

Britney is listed as a roster artist under Sony on the article. Sony was not hit with a payola lawsuit. Columbia and Epic were hit with payola lawsuits and both found guilty.

Is Beyonce not under Columbia?
http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1700237&page=1

[swissman]

Originally posted by Eternium

http://variety.com/2005/music/market...ny-1117933978/

Britney's early radio hits were found on Jive/Zomba. When Sony acquired Jive, Britney was under a blacklist and none of her songs had strong radioplay whatsoever. "Toxic" was a digital smash and actually outdid itself in sales as to what it received in airplay. "Crazy In Love" sold less at the time and had more airplay. How can you argue that "Toxic" wasn't organic and CiL was?

The reason this question confuses you is because I never argued that. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Istan4R]

Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*

considering the fact Bey almost always loses in polls on ATRL but winning in life says more about the poor souls in here than anything else.

Buy the Vogue September Issue, its full with fashion articles. Oh and theres even an article with the heading "Just B - Beyonce and the art of global domination". I btw wonder why the letter B is associated with Beyonce and not Britney? Weird, didnt they used to call her Princess B or sth?



Anyways, this was slightly offtopic on my part.

Isn't her nickname Bey "B" hmm I wonder

[B-Luke]

It's still Toxic for me but honestly, this comparison has been done to death.

[Trent W]

Originally posted by Lyrical.

Drunk in Love doesn't count as a hit now? & "too promoted"... really? That's an excuse? The fact that it is even talked about and included in these things nowadays shows that it is remembered.

Naw I'm just wasting my time with you lmao. Carry on.

DIL was like an urban hit that only sold 1.5 m in the US. It didn't even chart in other countries

SL was her last solo hit, and was kind of the same it only reached #1 and the world just saw the video in YT

[Istan4R]

Originally posted by Trent W

Britney was already in the SB in 2001 and knowing Beyonce and her tactics Im not sure they asked her but the other way around.

Weren't her ratings worse than Bruno? Yikes

[Lyrical.]

Originally posted by Robinladen

Bad Blood, LoveGame, her Diamond outfit is still replicated to this day.. A more current example would be of Jennifer Lopez.

I don't remember any of those, so I won't really speak on them, but someone wearing a diamond outfit doesn't mean they're necessarily replicating that video.

[swissman]

Originally posted by Trent W

Britney was already in the SB in 2001 and knowing Beyonce and her tactics Im not sure they asked her but the other way around.

oh you know Beyoncé?

[Bey_Rihstan]

Originally posted by hellocory

Someone find that thread that proves even CRIMINAL, the fourth single from Femme Fatale, was more of a global hit than Single Ladies was.

Singles Ladies:
#1 Brazil
#1 U.S.
#2 Canada
#2 Israel
#2 New Zealand
#4 Ireland
#5 Australia
#5 Bulgaria
#7 United Kingdom
#8 Dutch Top 40
#10 Italy
#10 Spain
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Top 10 in 12/23 countries it charted in

Womanizer:
#1 Belgium (Ultrapop 50 Flanders)
#1 Canada
#1 Denmark
#1 Finland
#1 France
#1 Israel
#1 Norway
#1 Sweden
#1 U.S.
#2 Belgium (Ultrapop 50 Wallonia)
#2 Hungary
#2 Ireland
#2 Switzerland
#3 Scotland
#3 United Kingdom
#4 Austria
#4 Germany
#5 Australia
#6 Czech Republic
#7 Italy
#7 Japan
#8 Netherlands
#9 New Zealand
--------------------------------
Top 10 in 22/22 Countries' Charts


Womanizer was EASILY the bigger hit worldwide, regardless of Single Ladies selling more thanks to it selling a lot in the U.S.

If you take the US sales away from both SL still comes out on top so what's really the tea?

[Eternium]

Originally posted by Cherry

Again: why did the NFL ask Beyoncé to perform and not Britney? Why did Universal ask Beyoncé to record "Crazy in Love" for Fifty Shades of Grey when the song isn't even mentioned in the first book. Why didn't they ask Britney to record "Toxic"?

Britney has been asked to do the Super Bowl before, has already done the Super Bowl, has done the NFL Halftime Kick-off and has already been asked to do the Golden Super Bowl. Is this supposed to be a diss?

Originally posted by Iyanla, Fix Me

Her label was paying Clear Channel aka Payola. When she chose Pepsi Clear Channel ended all of their deals with her. They stopped accepting her and the label's payola. Beyonce chose Pepsi but didn't lose out on her single and radio success because she didn't need several deals to get her singles going. People naturally requested and bought them.

So again, Poor Army

You clearly were not a stan till the late 2000s decade. Clear Channel was a promoter and JIVE/Zomba was a failing indie record label. They only had Britney to live off of despite a huge hip-hop/R&B roster and that's why they sold to Sony. How would they have paid payola when they couldn't pay their employees?

Clear Channel was paying for Britney's concert to be part of her advertising team, not the other way around Do you know what a promoter is?

Fun fact: Usher was also believed to be part of the same radio ban.

[UnusualBoy]

Y'all really enjoy make a deluge on a paper cup, don't you?

[hellocory]

Originally posted by Lyrical.

I don't remember any of those, so I won't really speak on them, but someone wearing a diamond outfit doesn't mean they're necessarily replicating that video.

Gaga literally said she was inspired by Toxic

[Istan4R]

Originally posted by swissman

oh you know Beyoncé?

Obviously we know who Beyonce is we're talking about her too bad only the U.S. knows about her tho ;(

[Cherry]

Originally posted by Trent W

She's not played on radio

#17 Best Thing I Never Had
#20 Love On Top (only promoted to urban radio)
#6 Drunk in Love

Originally posted by Trent W

she hasn't had a huge hit this decade

#2 Drunk in Love

Originally posted by Trent W

the clubs won't play her

#1 Why Don't You Love Me
#1 Video Phone
#1 Run the World (Girls)
#1 Best Thing I Never Had
#1 Countdown
#33 End of Time (an album track)
#1 Love On Top
#44 I Was Here (an album track)
#12 Drunk in Love
#1 Partition
#1 7/11

[Lyrical.]

Originally posted by Trent W

DIL was like an urban hit that only sold 1.5 m in the US. It didn't even chart in other countries

SL was her last solo hit, and was kind of the same it only reached #1 and the world just saw the video in YT

Ok Trent. Your opinion on what qualifies as a hit or flop matters.

[Robinladen]

Originally posted by Lyrical.

I don't remember any of those, so I won't really speak on them, but someone wearing a diamond outfit doesn't mean they're necessarily replicating that video.

a fully naked body just covered in diamonds, theres clearly inspiration behind that.

Gagas was the most noticeable even the movements, and MV scene were practically the same.

[Iyanla, Fix Me]

Originally posted by Trent W

Britney was already in the SB in 2001 and knowing Beyonce and her tactics Im not sure they asked her but the other way around.

They had been asking her since 2009 but she respectfully declined 4 years in a row. And when she finally accepted they gave her full 13 minute set. Vs the cameo Britney had.

[swissman]

Originally posted by Trent W

DIL was like an urban hit that only sold 1.5 m in the US. It didn't even chart in other countries

SL was her last solo hit, and was kind of the same it only reached #1 and the world just saw the video in YT

Well DIL was an urban release, so the fact that it indeed charted on 30 different music charts around the world is impressive.