[2014]

Originally posted by halcyonday

So sad that with all those sales, SIO and BS weren't strong enough to make impact and will be forgotten in less than 2 years.

Funny how you used "will" instead of "are"

The songs are still selling a lot of copies weekly, huge hits, far from being forgotten

[muddysquirrel]

Originally posted by Howie

Internationally, they are quite close, with DIL having a slight edge.

Taylor is at 7.7 million, DIL is on avg around 8 - 9 million (and thats the LOW estimate) with 10 - 11 million high end. Taylor is not doing another 1.5 million+ before her next era.

Taylor has been having more success with singles both in the US and WW too + bigger tour.

Taylor has the bigger singles but she definitely doesn't have the bigger tour.

So the only thing 1989 outshines is in US album sales, and Single sales.



Neither outsold Single Ladies, Halo, or Irreplaceable WW though.

"1989" is already @ 7,9 mil WW. Let us not downplay the slayage to try to make it look Bey has a chance.

"1989" is obviously gonna end up bigger.

[Howie]

Originally posted by Rei

DIL release date = 2003 (?)
1989 release date = 2014.

DIL wouldn't sell 10M if it was released in 2014.

and 1989 wouldn't sell 7 million in 2003?

You can't say oh don't compare album released a decade apart and think that the only album that would be affected is DIL. The times have changed drastically. And if you think just cuz albums sold more back then that Taylor's music now would DEFINITELY sell then is a huge and stupid assumption.

[Howie]

Originally posted by muddysquirrel

"1989" is already @ 7,9 mil WW. Let us not downplay the slayage to try to make it look Bey has a chance.

"1989" is obviously gonna end up bigger.

Did i say that it wasn't a slayage? No i didnt. I said that it wont sell another 1.5 million in the next year or so b4 her next album. you just skimmed or did you even bother to read cuz i literally said those exact words.

Well the tour isn't bigger, the singles havent outsold Beyonce's biggest singles and she hasn't outsold her biggest album.......

[Ressti]

DIL sold 10 million and IASF is close to 8 million. So, no.

[Brando]

No, because the blockbusters Crazy In Love & Baby Boy annihilate the non-events Shake Me Off & Blank Space.

[muddysquirrel]

Originally posted by Howie

and 1989 wouldn't sell 7 million in 2003?

You can't say oh don't compare album released a decade apart and think that the only album that would be affected is DIL. The times have changed drastically. And if you think just cuz albums sold more back then that Taylor's music now would DEFINITELY sell then is a huge and stupid assumption.

Taylor is doing 1,5 mil easy with holiday/awards season coming up. Come on, now. Reality check.

DIL had like 100 times healthier sales climate to work it with as well. So this comparison looks better for"1989" from every angle you look at. "!989" tour is passing 200 mil gross easy so its not like there is gonna be a major difference even here.

[NX127]

No, sales are not everything.

[Blues]

Originally posted by Rafael

Bigger tour?

1989 will outgross every Beyonce tour.

[WEEKND]

Originally posted by Rei

1988 is already bigger than every Beyoncé era, you can't compare albums released in 2003/2008 with an album released in 2014... if Beyoncé released DIL or IASF in 2014 I'm sure they would sell less than 1989.

Yet that's exactly what you & the Op are doing



A bipolar mess.

[Blues]

1989 will outsell every Beyonce album. It has bigger singles too.

And the tour will outgross every Beyonce tour.

So obviously yes.

[superben]

1989 is ALREADY bigger than any Beyonce's era.

[Six]

1989 is bigger than Bey's entire career tbh.

[E-Raine]

Beyonce's DIL impact will always stay winning. Crazy In Love alone is bigger than anything Taylor has or will ever do. HOWEVER, it would be ignorant to think that Taylor won't outsell her. Thing is, 1989 tracks will be forgotten just now.

[Havoc]

Originally posted by Howie

Well the tour isn't bigger, the singles havent outsold Beyonce's biggest singles and she hasn't outsold her biggest album.......

And there we have it.

[Chemist]

it's already bigger than any beyonce era

[muddysquirrel]

Originally posted by E-Raine

Beyonce's DIL impact will always stay winning. Crazy In Love alone is bigger than anything Taylor has or will ever do. HOWEVER, it would be ignorant to think that Taylor won't outsell her. Thing is, 1989 tracks will be forgotten just now.

*Opens Itunes, "SIO" still inside top 100 exactly 1 year after release. Has any Beyonce song ever managed that? Genuinely curious. Maybe some chart "freaks" can answer.

[Whiskey Mouth]

Dangerously In Love is bigger though.

[Bey_Rihstan]

Has 1989 (or any Taylor album) sold 3 million copies outside of the US? Honest question.

[King B]

It won't come close to DIL's 10 Million so imma say no.