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Originally posted by Adele Addict
Where did you hear that? Regardless, September 25 is a likely date. September was supposedly confirmed to be the month she's releasing, plus it's on a Friday, which is the new date for new music releases, and the album is supposedly titled 25. Hopefully this is true!  |
September 25th is the best opportunity.
Black Friday is too near the holiday season , she won't love that.
Promo till end of November, December free, the most of the sales are through till end of the year, new year some talking shows, Grammys then touring till September.
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Originally posted by rbautz
September 25th is the best opportunity.
Black Friday is too near the holiday season , she won't love that.
Promo till end of November, December free, the most of the sales are through till end of the year, new year some talking shows, Grammys then touring till September.
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You make a really good point. September 25 does make perfect sense. She's going to have to announce a lead single REALLY soon if she expects to do a normal album release, though.
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September 25 for the album? Hell no. I don't think that Taylor is going to win Album of the Year against the acclaimed Kendrick Lamar. Neither Adele. Let's be realistic and not a plenty of delusional stans. Focus in 2016!
Late August or early September for the lead single + early October or late October for the album is the best opportunity, imo.
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Originally posted by DayFusion
September 25 for the album? Hell no. I don't think that Taylor is going to win Album of the Year against the acclaimed Kendrick Lamar. Neither Adele. Let's be realistic and not a plenty of delusional stans. Focus in 2016!
Late August or early September for the lead single + early October or late October for the album is the best opportunity, imo.
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Don't think about Taylor, don't think about Kendrick, it's about Adele and what the management can do for her.
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Originally posted by rbautz
Don't think about Taylor, don't think about Kendrick, it's about Adele and what the management can do for her.
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The chances of her winning relevant awards at the 2016 Grammy ceremony are still low, compared to other names of this year. None management could change this. It's just 5 days ahead the deadline and there's no need to compete with them.
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Originally posted by DayFusion
The chances of her winning relevant awards at the 2016 Grammy ceremony are still low, compared to other names of this year. None management could change this. It's just 5 days ahead the deadline and there's no need to compete with them.
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It's not about the Grammys 2016, it's about to give her a nice short campaign, she maybe wants a second child, if it comes later, she would have to canpaign till Grammys 2017.
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Originally posted by rbautz
It's not about the Grammys 2016, it's about to give her a nice short campaign, she maybe wants a second child, if it comes later, she would have to canpaign till Grammys 2017.
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It's not a big deal (talking about the promo schedule of her new album), in postponing one or two weeks after the Grammy's deadline. Angelo grew up and there's more free time now.
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I don't see a big difference in campaign length between a September and an October release. Either way, traditional promo would see her do some talk show kinda stuff at the end of this year/beginning of next year, and a tour would begin in the Spring and would be mostly completely by the fall of next year (even super-touring Taylor is just going May-December 2015 with the exception of a couple rumored SE Asia dates early next year).
Personally, I think it'd better to stay above the fray, release in October and define the next eligibility period from the start rather than jumping into the potential mess this year. At the same time, a lead single before October would give her an opportunity to double dip on ROTY, SOTY, PSP, and MV noms when combined with a strong second one. I don't really care about the Grammys anymore, though, tbh. Too many annoying moves in the three years following Adele's sweep. If Adele just gives us new music and concerts I'll be eternally happy 
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Originally posted by daydreams
Personally, I think it'd better to stay above the fray, release in October and define the next eligibility period from the start rather than jumping into the potential mess this year. At the same time, a lead single before October would give her an opportunity to double dip on ROTY, SOTY, PSP, and MV noms when combined with a strong second one. I don't really care about the Grammys anymore, though, tbh. Too many annoying moves in the three years following Adele's sweep. If Adele just gives us new music and concerts I'll be eternally happy |
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I have a feeling that UF will be next year's Happy. 
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I agree, Daydreams. I don't think Adele's top priority is the Grammys. Besides, I still think she has a chance against Taylor and Kendrick. Kendrick's album is strictly rap, and I can't see them giving a rap artist Album of the Year. Taylor has a good shot, but I can't see them giving it to a strictly pop artist either if she's up against Adele. It could be a Beyoncé-esque snub. Besides, at least the lead single will smash just by association, and the album will sell huge. She's not gonna have another 21 year, and she knows that, so I don't think winning 6 Grammys in one night is her biggest priority. As long as she delivers with the quality of the album and promotes the music and tours, I will be happy.
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Nobody here said that she's going to win other six gramophones in one night again. I'd just like to keep some delusional stans awake with the possibility of her not winning another Grammy of AOTY against Kendrick or other acclaimed and random artist.
They're not giving two consecutive AOTY awards to Adele, neither Taylor. It's going to be a surprise because we're talking about the main and most respected award of the night.
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Originally posted by DayFusion
Nobody here said that she's going to win other six gramophones in one night again. I'd just like to keep some delusional stans awake with the possibility of her not winning another Grammy of AOTY against Kendrick or other acclaimed and random artist.
They're not giving two consecutive AOTY awards to Adele, neither Taylor. It's going to be a surprise because we're talking about the main and most respected award of the night.
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They could very well give it twice to Adele, we don't know. Yes, the fact that her album immediately previous won does seem to make that less likely, but they also gave AOTY to Beck this year—meaning, unless you basically have a 21 (and usually, this year included, nobody really does) there's no guarantee what on earth they're thinking.
It wouldn't be consecutive for Taylor, she's wasn't nominated with Speak Now and lost with Red since her Fearless win.
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Originally posted by daydreams
They could very well give it twice to Adele, we don't know. Yes, the fact that her album immediately previous won does seem to make that less likely, but they also gave AOTY to Beck this year—meaning, unless you basically have a 21 (and usually, this year included, nobody really does) there's no guarantee what on earth they're thinking.
It wouldn't be consecutive for Taylor, she's wasn't nominated with Speak Now and lost with Red since her Fearless win.
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It's not impossible but it's also not likely to happen. They just did it with Stevie Wonder, back in the 70's/80's.
I know that wouldn't be consecutive for Taylor and that her chances of winning the main award are a bit low, even with all the buzz and positive reviews from critics. The base of 1989 is too pop for this category.
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Event Kendrick Lamar made one of the best rap albums of the century, I don't think he can win against Taylor Swift. But, if Adele releases her album in September it will be good for everyone in fact.
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Originally posted by flowcoast
Event Kendrick Lamar made one of the best rap albums of the century, I don't think he can win against Taylor Swift. But, if Adele releases her album in September it will be good for everyone in fact.
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Why not? His album is WELL more acclaimed and has huge chances, if we are realistic and consider that the academy never gave a gramophone of AOTY for a full-pop album. Outkast won the same award in 2004, with a rap album.
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Originally posted by rbautz
September 25th is the best opportunity.
Black Friday is too near the holiday season , she won't love that.
Promo till end of November, December free, the most of the sales are through till end of the year, new year some talking shows, Grammys then touring till September.
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This actually sounds like it could be possible. It is true that she would have to keep the album campaign going until 2017.
She probably wouldn't win 6 awards in a night again, but I do think she could take the pop categories and AOTY.
However, I don't think we'll get the album until November tbh.
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Originally posted by DayFusion
Why not? His album is WELL more acclaimed and has considerable chances, if we are realistic and consider that the academy never gave a gramophone of AOTY for a full-pop album. Outkast won the same award in 2004, with a rap album.
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The Outkast album was everywhere then and it was more of a crossover album than a rap album. The same for the voters of the Grammys. There is much more psychology behind an election than you would think.
Likability is important and Adele is a master of this, Beyonce has it also but she is black, is a multi millionare and goes to diner with the president, seems that was too much for the the voters, so they gave it to the the maverick.
Kendrick I'm afraid is not so much known by the voters and has the false genre to win AOTY. He could only win against Taylor if the voters are envy about the success of Taylor. I don't think they would have the problem with Adele.
Adele is beloved, Michael had the same at Thriller time, he was this nice charming but shy boy with limitless talent, he won everything, 5 years later he won nothing because it was known by then there was something weird about him.
You see, you must have the right mixture of craft, success, likability but it's a fine line.
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Originally posted by rbautz
The Outkast album was everywhere then and it was more of a crossover album than a rap album. The same for the voters of the Grammys. There is much more psychology behind an election than you would think.
Likability is important and Adele is a master of this, Beyonce has it also but she is black, is a multi millionare and goes to diner with the president, seems that was too much for the the voters, so they gave it to the the maverick.
Kendrick I'm afraid is not so much known by the voters and has the false genre to win AOTY. He could only win against Taylor if the voters are envy about the success of Taylor. I don't think they would have the problem with Adele.
Adele is beloved, Michael had the same at Thriller time, he was this nice charming but shy boy with limitless talent, he won everything, 5 years later he won nothing because it was known by then there was something weird about him.
You see, you must have the right mixture of craft, success, likability but it's a fine line.
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Daft Punk and Beck weren't everywhere but they still won AOTY. That's not a big deal now, imo.
The color excuse doesn't work. Herbie Hancock won this category in 2008. The thing is that "BEYONCÉ" is too sexual for the academy and they hate it.
Kendrick would be the moral champion and who should win, because they tend to reward albums with a organic base and not some random pop album.
We could face a "Bad" situation with Adele's new album, tbh. We shall see.
If there's a obvious winner like "21", yes, but that's not Taylor's case.
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Originally posted by DayFusion
Daft Punk and Beck weren't everywhere but they still won AOTY. That's not a big deal now, imo.
The color excuse doesn't work. Herbie Hancock won this category in 2008. The thing is that "BEYONCÉ" is too sexual for the academy and they hate it.
Kendrick would be the moral champion and who should win, because they tend to reward albums with a organic base and not some random pop album.
We could face a "Bad" situation with Adele's new album, tbh. We shall see.
If there's a obvious winner like "21", yes, but that's not Taylor's case.
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