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Member Since: 6/30/2012
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Originally posted by lonnie
Take away the U.S and the Taylor hasn't sold even 1/3 of what she's sold worldwide  |
Take away Europe and we can say the same for Rih
But until you become a superpowerful deity that's capable of erasing countries you'll just have to accept taylor has outsold rihanna worldwide by a significant amount with 2 albums less.
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Originally posted by lonnie
Take away the U.S and the Taylor hasn't sold even 1/3 of what she's sold worldwide |
take away Europe and they're probably equal in that
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Lol let's look at Rihanna's sales outside the US vs Taylor's sales outside the US, not to mention the countless hits, etc. 
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I kinda like "TSGHLAM" by Maroon 5.
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Member Since: 12/22/2011
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Originally posted by lonnie
Whenever a Hive member comes for FFS only for me to remember Beyonce doesn't have a single song of her own that has been bigger these past seven years |
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Originally posted by Peep Show
I'll just re-post this.
Total #1 singles (worldwide):
Rihanna: 110
Britney Spears: 93
Shakira: 67
Katy Perry: 60
Lady Gaga: 58
Christina Aguilera: 42
P!nk: 37
Jennifer Lopez: 37
Beyoncé: 35
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Originally posted by Kworb
http://kworb.net/ww/wwtotals.html
134 Rihanna and Kanye West and Paul McCartney - FourFiveSec... 2,516,360
140 Lady Gaga - Applause 2,394,617
299 Beyoncé - Drunk In Love 1,431,382
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ooh chile I wasn't ready for these numbers.
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Originally posted by YR.
/\ WOW. So that means that Katy and Rihanna are bigger than Taylor right?
This logic  |
That the public has spoken it's Katy, Rihanna, Britney and Shakira that they want...not what ATRL believes are the second coming...
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Originally posted by X/O/X/O
Friendly reminder that Rihanna has released 58 singles in her career. Taylor has released 35. 
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4 #1 album and 4 #1 singles when Rihanna has 13 #1 singles and 1 #1 album...for which the other non #1 albums were successful too.
How does taylor outrank her when you really take a look at this
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Member Since: 5/28/2011
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Originally posted by lonnie
Taylor doesn't have a single album whereby 60% of her sales don't come from the U.S, of course these "country" stans would try it |
But she still outsold Rihanna, in the US and WW. Poor Only Girl (In the UK).
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Has there ever been a pop star in history that has depended on a single country as much as Taylor depends on the U.S?
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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n. The Navy is holding on by a thread with this singles thing cause Rihanna hasn't released the album yet.
Once it comes out and we see the sells. We'll all look back and laugh about how stupid it was to ever brag about her (minimal) single success this era. 
And then I already know the excuse will be "well she didn't release with a gimmick" etc.
It's like ****ing clockwork. The Navy and Rihanna have been predictable since she started using her domestic violence and hair color as a way to introduce a new era. Stupid bitch.
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by lonnie
Taylor doesn't have a single album whereby 60% of her sales don't come from the U.S, of course these "country" stans would try it |
not our fault Taylor is a Phenomenon In the US where Rih is just Icon level in the UK
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Originally posted by Nicole
Rihanna’s struggle is symptomatic of a much bigger issue (problem?) in pop music: if you are a female popstar, you can’t survive without Dr Luke/Max Martin and the sound/image that their songs create.
I first mentioned this in 2011 when I listened to BTW and knew Lady Gaga was over.
I mentioned it again when Taylor Swift released Red and proved herself to be the smartest popstar.
But it’s never been as bad as it is now. If you don’t have a white soccer mom friendly image + catchy anthems for young girls, you will struggle. That’s why Meghan Trainor smashed - she fit right into this new pop landscape. Beyonce has survived nicely because she’s too big and important to flop, but even so her singles are bombing left and right. For female popstars, the playing field has gotten narrower and whiter and younger and girlier than ever over the last few years. Hence Rihanna being unable to release her album.
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While I agree with this somewhat, you're being way overdramatic. 
I think it's more that these girls don't know which direction to go with their music and none of them are powerful enough to make bold decisions and have them pay off (except Beyonce, like you stated). The industry is also in a changing period with streaming taking over so the label heads don't want to take risks hence the overuse of Max Martin and the safe images.
If Rihanna released a great song produced by a random, it would've smashed. She just simply hasn't.
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
not our fault Taylor is a Phenomenon In the US where Rih is just Icon level in the UK
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Idk why he doesn't realize this yet
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Originally posted by lonnie
Has there ever been a pop star in history that has depended on a single country as much as Taylor depends on the U.S?
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Well, I'll repeat. The majority of Taylor albums are country, and country doesn't sell outside the US. fff is that too hard? Same for urban songs/R&B. (Rihanna isn't urban or R&B, btw  )
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Member Since: 6/30/2012
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Originally posted by lonnie
Taylor doesn't have a single album whereby 60% of her sales don't come from the U.S, of course these "country" stans would try it |
She has the us on lock every era. It's pretty cool how she can sell almost as much in one country as rihanna can worldwide tbh.
Taylor's us sales-28m
Per album avg-5m+++
Rihs ww sales-30m
Per album avg-4m++
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Originally posted by Ash12345
Lol
She has a million selling single in japan that's still charting and another one that's over 500k and still charting. None of your faves are ever doing it.
Most of the sales in European countries are irrelevant you still count them. I guess only countries that are convenient to your fave count?
Yeah Taylor's a flop in france at least she's growing with every era though but even without france she still outsells your fave twice over so I'm not really that bothered tbh.
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Besides Japan, Europe is still a bigger market than Southeast Asia. Their sales aren't irrelevant, the biggest artists in France can sell up to a million. Indonesia and the Philippines would never 
She outsells my fave twice but she's still local and most of those albums are county fodder only Americans care about. Katy's still got hits and a bigger brand and global presence
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
Lol let's look at Rihanna's sales outside the US vs Taylor's sales outside the US, not to mention the countless hits, etc. |
Rih would we take away one of Rih's weakest markets? she can't even go double platinum
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
Besides Japan, Europe is still a bigger market than Southeast Asia. Their sales aren't irrelevant, the biggest artists in France can sell up to a million. Indonesia and the Philippines would never
She outsells my fave twice but she's still local and most of those albums are county fodder only Americans care about. Katy's still got hits and a bigger brand and global presence |
no one was talking about Tity 15Mrry
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The Hive-nots love to pretend the DrIL was some major WW hit.
Maybe by Beysuc's low standards?
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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And now the Navy is trying Taylor???
This gives Monsters circa 2011
Whew! The SYG dynamic is about to SHIFT once again. I still remember the days when Britney stans would perch in here. And then after that when Monsters would perch. And now the Navy, but since FFS they've slowly started to evacuate.
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Bad Romance:
Jan 2015 2,923,557
Feb 2015 2,887,367
Mar 2015 3,058,151
Apr 2015 2,816,439
May 2015 3,106,573
Jun 2015 2,998,094
Jul 2015 1,245,427
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by slw84
ooh chile I wasn't ready for these numbers.
That the public has spoken it's Katy, Rihanna, Britney and Shakira that they want...not what ATRL believes are the second coming...
4 #1 album and 4 #1 singles when Rihanna has 13 #1 singles and 1 #1 album...for which the other non #1 albums were successful too.
How does taylor outrank her when you really take a look at this
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slw thinking he's slick by throwing Britney in there
Why don't we look at her numbers this decade
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