[Dollas n Diamonds]

Originally posted by lonnie

Charted higher in France than any Taylor song
BBHMM isn't R&B though

what is it

[Nicole]

Rihanna’s struggle is symptomatic of a much bigger issue (problem?) in pop music: if you are a female popstar, you can’t survive without Dr Luke/Max Martin and the sound/image that their songs create.

I first mentioned this in 2011 when I listened to BTW and knew Lady Gaga was over.

I mentioned it again when Taylor Swift released Red and proved herself to be the smartest popstar.

But it’s never been as bad as it is now. If you don’t have a white soccer mom friendly image + catchy anthems for young girls, you will struggle. That’s why Meghan Trainor smashed - she fit right into this new pop landscape. Beyonce has survived nicely because she’s too big and important to flop, but even so her singles are bombing left and right. For female popstars, the playing field has gotten narrower and whiter and younger and girlier than ever over the last few years. Hence Rihanna being unable to release her album.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by lonnie

Charted higher in France than any Taylor song
BBHMM isn't R&B though

Not France being proof that Rihanna > Taylor

And then wtf IS BBHMM?

[Guero]

Originally posted by dwuw

Now that you've been clocked with Taylor and Bey you're coming for Ciara?

Like I care for stats, anyway. I mean, I do stan for Ciara of all people.

[lonnie]

Originally posted by dwuw

Now that you've been clocked with Taylor and Bey you're coming for Ciara?

What clock?
Taylor being "country"?
Beyonce hasn't had as big a hit as FFS since July 20th I'm informed.
And Ciara is on fantasy escapades with a flop American footballer.
Nope I haven't been clocked as of yet.

[Stark]

Originally posted by Peep Show

Sure, as if anyone actually cares about that MO girl.

Well, she's #1 WW right now.

[Nicole]

And Rihanna is struggling and FFS was a non-factor.

Proof?

The album is still called R8 and still doesn’t have a release date. No need for pages upon pages of stats.

[Stark]

Originally posted by lonnie

What clock?
Taylor being "country"?
Beyonce hasn't had as big a hit as FFS since July 20th I'm informed.
And Ciara is on fantasy escapades with a flop American footballer.
Nope I haven't been clocked as of yet.

Taylor selling +6M albums than Rihanna worldwide, and Rihanna has 2 more albums.

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by youkneekorn

Mr.PeenNutz, I recommend you watch Big Hero 6. It was amazing.

Another movie I watched and liked was The Equalizer.

Have you seen either of these?

BH6 looked cute!

I've seen neither.

[Peep Show]

Originally posted by dwuw

Well, she's #1 WW right now.

Do you actually believe that it's #1 because of her? Don't be delusional now.

[lonnie]

Oh and FFS is still bigger than Lean on.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by lonnie

What clock?
Taylor being "country"?
Beyonce hasn't had as big a hit as FFS since July 20th I'm informed.
And Ciara is on fantasy escapades with a flop American footballer.
Nope I haven't been clocked as of yet.

This one:

Originally posted by dwuw

Rihanna - 30.5M
Taylor - 36.1M (counted her debut too)

Thought it should also be noted that Taylor has only released 5 albums, while Rihanna has released 7 (not including a re-release).

[youkneekorn]

The same user constantly posting weird images without resizing them. Ugh.

2015 has been a terrible year for pop music and Hollywood.

[MrPeanut]

I'm kinda obsessed with MØ's bow-legged chicken dancing in the Lean On video.

[Stark]

Originally posted by Peep Show

Do you actually believe that it's #1 because of her? Don't be delusional now.

No (?) But she's in the song, she's the one singing it. And it's her #1. Give her credit, she deserves it

[lonnie]

Originally posted by dwuw

Taylor selling +6M albums than Rihanna worldwide, and Rihanna has 2 more albums.

Take away the U.S and the Taylor hasn't sold even 1/3 of what she's sold worldwide

[youkneekorn]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

I'm kinda obsessed with MØ's bow-legged chicken dancing in the Lean On video.

My eyes were on Diplo. I was mentally bathing him before.....

[Ash12345]

Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA

Lol She has never hit #1 in Japan. Leone Lewis () and Gaga are the only Western girls who have done it.

Those Asian countries (China included) have no official charts for singles and their sales are awful.

Even in France Katy has had top 5 singles. Taylor hasn't

Lol
She has a million selling single in japan that's still charting and another one that's over 500k and still charting. None of your faves are ever doing it.

Most of the sales in European countries are irrelevant you still count them. I guess only countries that are convenient to your fave count?

Yeah Taylor's a flop in france at least she's growing with every era though but even without france she still outsells your fave twice over so I'm not really that bothered tbh.

[Jennifer]

Originally posted by RobynYoBank

Unique Billboard 200 Entries by Year

1984 676
1985 646
1986 677
1987 715
1988 749
1989 742
1990 675
1991 617
1992 622
1993 692
1994 689
1995 735
1996 767
1997 820
1998 829
1999 866
2000 916
2001 1003
2002 1002
2003 1049
2004 1049
2005 1089
2006 1121
2007 1213
2008 1298
2009 1429
2010 1403
2011 1492
2012 1593
2013 1591
2014 1710
2015 851

Unique Hot 100 Entries By Year

1959 639
1960 659
1961 752
1962 748
1963 739
1964 786
1965 773
1966 803
1967 802
1968 746
1969 743
1970 714
1971 684
1972 671
1973 596
1974 581
1975 642
1976 609
1977 568
1978 530
1979 569
1980 543
1981 511
1982 526
1983 539
1984 518
1985 495
1986 497
1987 542
1988 517
1989 488
1990 471
1991 490
1992 447
1993 448
1994 426
1995 429
1996 405
1997 470
1998 513
1999 424
2000 449
2001 389
2002 400
2003 402
2004 397
2005 441
2006 475
2007 462
2008 511
2009 538
2010 579
2011 589
2012 466
2013 499
2014 464
2015 310

Thanks for posting this! This is interesting and basically confirms what we already knew when it came to albums atleast.

There are so many more options out there now and that's why even though the market of today is similar to the late 70s, there are no albums selling like Thriller or all those mega sellers of the past. Makes 21's slaughter even more impressive.

On the flip side, it's another reason why the "stars" of today feel so blah and useless. They aren't as powerful or dominating as they used to be aside from a select few obviously.

[lonnie]

Taylor doesn't have a single album whereby 60% of her sales don't come from the U.S, of course these "country" stans would try it