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Poll: Bigger era: 1989 or GGGB?
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View Poll Results: Bigger era
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1989
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55.49% |
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Good Girl Gone Bad
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
Oops

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Pretty sure Umbrella outsold SIO & peaked better pretty much everywhere but okie dokie
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Quote:
Originally posted by RobynYoBank
114 Shake It Off - Taylor Swift
Big Machine - 2014 - 8.729.000 points
120 Umbrella - Rihanna feat. Jay-Z
Def Jam - 2007 - 8.614.000 points

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Not Mediatraffic points  which now includes streaming  SIO couldn't even make the IFPI top 10 this year when they include streaming and it had 4 full months in the eligibility period  Let me know when it crosses 8m worldwide
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Member Since: 6/30/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by PhreshIn
What does SIO even stand for? Like for real now. Not beeing shady 
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Shake it off
The longest running #1 debut on the hot 100 of all time
A video with almost a billion views
A song that will have hit a million in the UK and 5 million in the US in the next couple of months
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ash12345
nah they're not
anyways 1989 #1 in 3x more countries than GGGB   
I thought that was a global album
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GGGB has sold 6M outside the US. All of TS's albums have sold 8M combined. You thought right.
I'd even argue that Loud was bigger than 1989 and I would not be wrong.
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Quote:
Originally posted by idkher
Not Mediatraffic points which now includes streaming  SIO couldn't even make the IFPI top 10 this year when they include streaming and it had 4 full months in the eligibility period  Let me know when it crosses 8m worldwide
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Which doesn't benefit Taylor at all.
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Umbrella was a global and iconic hit. SIO missed top10 on IFPI hihi

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Originally posted by Blues
Which doesn't benefit Taylor at all.
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Vevo streaming is included...
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by rihannafan
Are the swifties really trying to argue that SIO was bigger than Umbrella? Why undermine your other potentially valid arguments like that? 
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well we already touched on album sales (Rih is currently winning)
Tour sales (LMAO)
and Impact in which spotify shake it off apple music bloomberg time >>>> umbrella Bob
considering Umbrella the song is GGGB's strongest argument is quite perplexing to find out that Shake It Off is already bigger than it (in points)

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I guess the Swifties thought they were getting somewhere with those IFPI receipts
EDIT: Mediatraffic*
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Quote:
Originally posted by idkher
Vevo streaming is included...
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No it's not. Only on demand
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
well we already touched on album sales (Rih is currently winning)
Tour sales (LMAO)
and Impact in which spotify shake it off apple music bloomberg time >>>> umbrella Bob
considering Umbrella the song is GGGB's strongest argument is quite perplexing to find out that Shake It Off is already bigger than it (in points)

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Umbrella was #1 in 20 countries. SIO was not even #1 in half of those countries. As for album sales, 1989 literally only has the US and Australia. Lol.
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by rihannafan
GGGB has sold 6M outside the US. All of TS's albums have sold 8M combined. You thought right.
I'd even argue that Loud was bigger than 1989 and I would not be wrong.
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 i'd like to see you twist that
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Member Since: 6/30/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan
Pretty sure Umbrella outsold SIO & peaked better pretty much everywhere but okie dokie
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UMBRELLA
Australia (ARIA)[40] Platinum 120,000^ * (according to rih receipts thead)
Belgium (BEA)[174] Platinum 50,000*
Brazil (ABPD)[175] Platinum 100,000*
Denmark (IFPI Denmark)[176] 2× Platinum 30,000^
Finland (Musiikkituottajat)[177] Platinum 10,784[177]
Germany (BVMI)[178] Platinum 300,000^
Italy (FIMI)[179] Gold 10,000*
Japan (RIAJ)[180] Gold 100,000^
New Zealand (RMNZ)[181] Platinum 15,000*
Spain (PROMUSICAE)[85] 8× Platinum 160,000^
Switzerland (IFPI Switzerland)[182] Gold 15,000x
United Kingdom (BPI)[76] Platinum 750,000^ (according to rih receipts thead)
United States (RIAA)[183] 5× Platinum 4,470,000[65] (according to rih receipts thead)
France-90k (according to rih receipts thead)
TOTAL-6.31m (8.6m UWC)
SHAKE IT OFF
Shake It Off
USA: 4,610,000
Japan: 265,000
UK: 915,000
Germany: 350,000
France: 55,000
Canada: 430,000
Australia: 420,000
Mexico: 60,000
New Zealand: 45,000
Sweden: 40,000
Italy: 30,000
Brazil: 16,000
Switzerland: 15,000
South Korea: 60,000
= 7,311,000 (8.729.000 UWC)
Gap widens with streaming
Umbrella
183.8m vevo views
Shake It Off
927,644,108 vevo views
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Member Since: 10/7/2011
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1989, duh.

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The clocking in this thread ddd
OT: 1989
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Quote:
Originally posted by Blues
No it's not. Only on demand
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??? Vevo is included for Billboard, RIAA and IFPI. I'm pretty sure Mediatraffic includes it too.
Also SIO was on Spotify for a while when it was released so
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How is SIO bigger than Umbrella when it didn't even make IFPI Top 10 Songs?

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Quote:
Originally posted by Ash12345
UMBRELLA
Australia (ARIA)[40] Platinum 120,000^ * (according to rih receipts thead)
Belgium (BEA)[174] Platinum 50,000*
Brazil (ABPD)[175] Platinum 100,000*
Denmark (IFPI Denmark)[176] 2× Platinum 30,000^
Finland (Musiikkituottajat)[177] Platinum 10,784[177]
Germany (BVMI)[178] Platinum 300,000^
Italy (FIMI)[179] Gold 10,000*
Japan (RIAJ)[180] Gold 100,000^
New Zealand (RMNZ)[181] Platinum 15,000*
Spain (PROMUSICAE)[85] 8× Platinum 160,000^
Switzerland (IFPI Switzerland)[182] Gold 15,000x
United Kingdom (BPI)[76] Platinum 750,000^ (according to rih receipts thead)
United States (RIAA)[183] 5× Platinum 4,470,000[65] (according to rih receipts thead)
France-90k (according to rih receipts thead)
TOTAL-6.31m (8.6m UWC)
SHAKE IT OFF
Shake It Off
USA: 4,610,000
Japan: 265,000
UK: 915,000
Germany: 350,000
France: 55,000
Canada: 430,000
Australia: 420,000
Mexico: 60,000
New Zealand: 45,000
Sweden: 40,000
Italy: 30,000
Brazil: 16,000
Switzerland: 15,000
South Korea: 60,000
= 7,311,000 (8.729.000 UWC)
Gap widens with streaming
Umbrella
183.8m vevo views
Shake It Off
927,644,108 vevo views
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Why are you using 3 different sources for Umbrella?
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
Posts: 41,860
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ash12345
UMBRELLA
Australia (ARIA)[40] Platinum 120,000^ * (according to rih receipts thead)
Belgium (BEA)[174] Platinum 50,000*
Brazil (ABPD)[175] Platinum 100,000*
Denmark (IFPI Denmark)[176] 2× Platinum 30,000^
Finland (Musiikkituottajat)[177] Platinum 10,784[177]
Germany (BVMI)[178] Platinum 300,000^
Italy (FIMI)[179] Gold 10,000*
Japan (RIAJ)[180] Gold 100,000^
New Zealand (RMNZ)[181] Platinum 15,000*
Spain (PROMUSICAE)[85] 8× Platinum 160,000^
Switzerland (IFPI Switzerland)[182] Gold 15,000x
United Kingdom (BPI)[76] Platinum 750,000^ (according to rih receipts thead)
United States (RIAA)[183] 5× Platinum 4,470,000[65] (according to rih receipts thead)
France-90k (according to rih receipts thead)
TOTAL-6.31m (8.6m UWC)
SHAKE IT OFF
Shake It Off
USA: 4,610,000
Japan: 265,000
UK: 915,000
Germany: 350,000
France: 55,000
Canada: 430,000
Australia: 420,000
Mexico: 60,000
New Zealand: 45,000
Sweden: 40,000
Italy: 30,000
Brazil: 16,000
Switzerland: 15,000
South Korea: 60,000
= 7,311,000 (8.729.000 UWC)
Gap widens with streaming
Umbrella
183.8m vevo views
Shake It Off
927,644,108 vevo views
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Umbrella didn't even win across the pond?
poor navy

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