[toanythingtaboo]

Originally posted by Retro

The vast majority of Bey's success comes from her brand and public image / persona.

I mean, I like her music too, but I can't name a single one of my friends who would deny a chance to be Beyonce. That money? That glamour? That social status? I can live with a fugly husband for all that.

Yup.

She/her team have done a fantastic job there.

It's like the opposite of Katy. Beyonce is a hugely adored persona, supported by passible music...whilst Katy has hugely adored music, supported by a passible persona. People don't seem to care much for the latter of either.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Nicole

And in the music industry it's also very easy to influence critics with your image.

Definitely; while I'm not saying that Teenage Dream was some magnum opus that deserves a 90, it did horribly because of Katy's previous album and her image. Conversely, albums like Bey's ST are critically acclaimed and get 85+ on MC based heavily on perception of the artist. ST was actually really good, but it wasn't innovative or progressive like critics treated it. It introduced some less generic R&B to a larger consumer base than previously, but other artists like Tinashe, Jhene, The Weeknd, and Frank Ocean were already doing it.

Another example is when Gaga's BTW image backfired on her for that TinyMixTapes review where that guy wrote a ****in' thesis about her and her place in modern culture, took the piss out of her in the most sarcastic way he could, and planted a zero over the corpse of the record.

[NX127]

Calvin Harris is the King of Pop

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by NX127

Calvin Harris is the King of Pop

Calvin Harris has become a bootleg David Guetta and is a fame***** who is only with Taylor because it validates his Hollywood frat boy billionaire makeover.

[OnlyManInTheWorld]

I wish all those singers Beyonce stole songs and lyrics from came up with a class action and finally sent her to jail or at least ended her career

[Retro]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

Calvin Harris has become a bootleg David Guetta and is a fame***** who is only with Taylor because it validates his Hollywood frat boy billionaire makeover.

Well... David Guetta is a bootleg of himself anymore, too. Hypergeneric as electronic music goes. Kinda like Zedd, though the latter became radio fodder much more quickly with less pleasurable results.

[Badger]

So much Beyst tea being spilled in here

[Shaliydah88]

Originally posted by Giselle

It's so funny because neither Gag nor Beysus would have used their speech to introduce anyone, especially one of their peers

Just proves that Britney was there to collect her award and gtfo.

[GreasyBruce]

It's kind of telling that Britney's tribute, as messy as it was, was the only one to actually reference her iconic videos. Beyonce performed her album full of videos, sure, but no one knows them. Justin didn't even attempt to reference his videos

[Retro]

I wish MØ wasn't so ridiculously ugly. She actually knows how to do pop music and I totally want an avi of her, but I'm not going around the forum with that.

[iHype.]

Y'all can 'demyth' all of her success all you want to, but at the end of the day -- the public considers Beyonce the top female of the generation, and she will be a legend.

Poor gays.

Success isn't based just off H100. The public doesn't know or care about it.

Grossing $250M on a tour, performing at the Superbowl, having an album sell 1M in a week, and being able to legit 'stop the world' everytime you release is a success.

[BabyCantYouSee]

[Retro]

Originally posted by iHype.

having an album sell 1M in a week

I mostly agree with you but am p sure this is still a lie

[iHype.]

Originally posted by Retro

I mostly agree with you but am p sure this is still a lie

Yonce sold 1M WW it's first week.

It sold 635K in it's first 3 days in US alone. How is that a lie?

[Giselle]

Originally posted by iHype.

Y'all can 'demyth' all of her success all you want to, but at the end of the day -- the public considers Beyonce the top female of the generation, and she will be a legend.

Poor gays.

Success isn't based just off H100. The public doesn't know or care about it.

Grossing $250M on a tour, performing at the Superbowl, having an album sell 1M in a week, and being able to legit 'stop the world' everytime you release is a success.

d; and that's it

[Retro]

What ever happened to Kiesza? She had crazy potential.

[bastille]

Bey
Retardney </3

[Retro]

Originally posted by iHype.

Yonce sold 1M WW it's first week.

It sold 635K in it's first 3 days in US alone. How is that a lie?

Probably barely hit that mark since it did like 1.3m in 10 days WW, gurl.

[toanythingtaboo]

Originally posted by iHype.

Y'all can 'demyth' all of her success all you want to, but at the end of the day -- the public considers Beyonce the top female of the generation, and she will be a legend.

Poor gays.

Success isn't based just off H100. The public doesn't know or care about it.

Grossing $250M on a tour, performing at the Superbowl, having an album sell 1M in a week, and being able to legit 'stop the world' everytime you release is a success.

This doesn't debunk what is being said.

She "legit stop[s] the world everytime" she releases?

[Monster Boy]

Originally posted by iHype.

Y'all can 'demyth' all of her success all you want to, but at the end of the day -- the public considers Beyonce the top female of the generation, and she will be a legend.

Poor gays.

Success isn't based just off H100. The public doesn't know or care about it.

Grossing $250M on a tour, performing at the Superbowl, having an album sell 1M in a week, and being able to legit 'stop the world' everytime you release is a success.

#iHypefacts