[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Starstruck.

What specific standards? everyone knows who the main pop girls are

There have been 10000 threads about them so don't act so brand new.

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Legend

No everyone does not. What makes them a main pop girl?

Success? Sia has that

Album sales? She has that too

Awards? Sia has that

Grammy noms? Sia has those

A Base on ATRL? Sia has that

She's a main pop girl. However, the fact that she isn't an acceptable option according to the OP means he has specific standards on what qualifies as "main"

[RoarRiteNow1]

Originally posted by RatedG²

No everyone does not. What makes them a main pop girl?

Success? Sia has that

Album sales? She has that too

Awards? Sia has that

Grammy noms? Sia has those

A Base on ATRL? Sia has that

She's a main pop girl. However, the fact that she isn't an acceptable option according to the OP means he has specific standards on what qualifies as "main"

Sia is primarily a songwriter and has been successful for one era, most on ATRL would not consider her a main pop girl. I know you have this compulsive need to try and diminish all of Katy's achievements but let's stop grasping at straws booboo

[Haus]

How can you even claim Passenger? Katy's the last credited. That's a Sia song and everyone knows it

[Starstruck.]

Originally posted by RatedG²

No everyone does not. What makes them a main pop girl?

Success? Sia has that

Album sales? She has that too

Awards? Sia has that

Grammy noms? Sia has those

A Base on ATRL? Sia has that

She's a main pop girl. However, the fact that she isn't an acceptable option according to the OP means he has specific standards on what qualifies as "main"

Their huge successful albums? Sia's best selling album worldwide is only at 1 million and she has never gone gold in the US. Literally clutching at straws.

She's not a main pop girl literally lmao.

[ezra]

Originally posted by Cupid

Cher did a Miley song too
One Direction (not pop girls, but still huge acts) did two Kelly written songs

I'm sure there's loads more popstars writing for each other, definitely not just Katy.

At the same time, there's no denying the Katy co-writes have become hits.

Sure. But the OP has changed the criteria about 3 times already. Now the songs have to have been singles, have to have been only by Bey, Brit & Taylor (even though they listed Selena/Rita songs for Katy) and have like 10+ now.

Gaga's written for at least 10 pop acts all while being a main pop girl herself (another filter they added ) So has Sia.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by RoarRiteNow1

Sia is primarily a songwriter and has been successful for one era, most on ATRL would not consider her a main pop girl. I know you have this compulsive need to try and diminish all of Katy's achievements but let's stop grasping at straws booboo

But like HOW can you deduce that? What makes Katy, Britney, Gaga, Beyonce (etc) different from Sia? They are all more successful than 99.9% of artists out there, get loads of awards and nominations, and all have made some sort of impact on pop culture

She belongs with those girls I named and hence my inclusion. Don't like me saying her, then tell me specifically what she's missing that makes her disqualified from being a main pop girl?

[Thorpz]

Well that's cause her songwriting isn't very good so she can't keep the songs she write by herself.

Bonnie ha saviour indeed

[alex_katycat]

Originally posted by Haus

How can you even claim Passenger? Katy's the last credited. That's a Sia song and everyone knows it

Katy is a co-writer of the song, admitted by Katy + BRITNEY herself. So let's not

[RoarRiteNow1]

Why are the monsters trying to change the criteria to any pop artist? I think I clearly said main pop girl (so the ones ATRL considers main pop girls)?

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Starstruck.

Their huge successful albums? Sia's best selling album worldwide is only at 1 million and she has never gone gold in the US. Literally clutching at straws.

She's not a main pop girl literally lmao.

Oh, so to be a main pop girl you have to have an album that sells more than 1 million worldwide and gold in the US?

Then I guess Katy is truly the only artist to have an album sell over 1 million WW, have an album go gold, and have written at least one song for another artist who has an album sell over 1 million WW and have a gold album in the US

Such an achievement

[Starstruck.]

Originally posted by RatedG²

But like HOW can you deduce that? What makes Katy, Britney, Gaga, Beyonce (etc) different from Sia? They are all more successful than 99.9% of artists out there, get loads of awards and nominations, and all have made some sort of impact on pop culture

She belongs with those girls I named and hence my inclusion. Don't like me saying her, then tell me specifically what she's missing that makes her disqualified from being a main pop girl?

Compare Sia's best selling album and single to the main pop girls.
Compare Sia's non-existent tour to the main pop girls.
Compare Sia's awards to the main pop girls.
etc

Even Selena Gomez is a better album seller than Sia.

[RoarRiteNow1]

RatedG Sia has only been successful for one era and is primarily a songwriter. More importantly most on ATRL would not consider Sia a main pop girl. That's all I was going off. Take it up with the rest of ATRL if you have a problem with them not considering her a main pop girl

[ezra]

So the main-main pop girls: Bey, Brit, Taylor, Gaga, Katy, Rihanna

Gaga and Sia have wrote for multiple of these girls. Did Katy?

[Zayn Malik]

Originally posted by Starstruck.

It's a shame writing smash pop hits?

1. I Do Not Hook Up – Kelly Clarkson
2. Longshot – Kelly Clarkson
3. Rock God – Selena Gomez & The Scene
4. That’s More Like it – Selena Gomez
5. Passenger – Britney Spears
6. Love is a Train – Ashley Tisdale
7. Bullet / Girl Next Door – Jessie James
8. Breakout – Miley Cyrus
9. Black Widow – Iggy Azalea
etc

Katy didn't write Breakout

[RoarRiteNow1]

Nicki belongs on that list of main pop girls too. And writing for a remix where she sings the parts she wrote counts as her song too, and isn't really writing for others. Why is this so difficult for the monsters to grasp?

[Thorpz]

I just think this thread is dumb I mean, not that writing Breakout/Rock God + other songs mean something since they are bad songs.

[Starstruck.]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Oh, so to be a main pop girl you have to have an album that sells more than 1 million worldwide and gold in the US?

Then I guess Katy is truly the only artist to have an album sell over 1 million WW, have an album go gold, and have written at least one song for another artist who has an album sell over 1 million WW and have a gold album in the US

Such an achievement

Are you dumbing yourself down on purpose?

All the main pop girls have 5M+ selling albums worldwide. Sia has none.
All the main pop girls have multiple Top 10 hits in the US and worldwide. Sia has one hit.
All the main pop girls have multiple AMAs, VMAs, EMAs, BRITs, etc. Sia has one VMA.
All the main pop girl have multiple platinum selling albums in the US. Sia doesn't even have a gold albums.
All the main pop girls have had cultural impact and are important figures in the media.
All the main pop girls are huge on social media. Sia isn't.
All the main pop girls have successful +100M tours or just successful tours. Sia never toured.
All the main pop girls have huge fanbases. Sia has a very small fanbase or just non-existent.

Sia has sold less albums than the Disney girls.

Your turn.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by RoarRiteNow1

RatedG Sia has only been successful for one era and is primarily a songwriter. More importantly most on ATRL would not consider Sia a main pop girl. That's all I was going off. Take it up with the rest of ATRL if you have a problem with them not considering her a main pop girl

I don't know why you keep saying "primarily a songwriter" since not only is this thread about songwriters, but its about artists (which she is). And more importantly, a lot of ATRLers would consider her a main pop girl and a lot won't so its up to you, the creator of this thread, to pinpoint the line to show a distinction between Sia Furlow and Katy Perry + other like pop girls but since you didn't do that I did it myself. If you don't like it make a better OP that isn't as ambiguous next time

Congrats Katy on writing songs for multiple pop artists that half of ATRL would consider main pop girls but other members would not agree completely on

[RoarRiteNow1]

How active is the Sia base RatedG?

[Starstruck.]

Originally posted by niazkilam

Katy didn't write Breakout

My bad, she just sang the demo.