[Bounce]

What's Beyonce's "game changing album" only selling 3.8m have to do with ARTPOP ?

[Ash12345]

Originally posted by conatus

Technically speaking, that is a decline.

not really tbh
It still sold over 80% of the previous record and album sales are declining

[Ash12345]

Originally posted by 2AM

A few artists had hugely successful debuts and their sophomore records were more successful.

Examples this century?

[2AM]

Originally posted by Bounce

So?

So I wouldn't be telling someone "Your fav's game changing album sold 3.8m so hush" when my faves last two LP's combined couldn't outsell it.

[Ash12345]

Originally posted by 2AM

So I wouldn't be telling someone "Your fav's game changing album sold 3.8m so hush" when my faves last two LP's combined couldn't outsell it.

C2C wasn't a LP lol it was just a jazz collab album
Artpop+BTW (her last 2 LPS) sold over 2x as much...

[2AM]

Originally posted by Ash12345

Examples this century?

- Adele: 19 -> 21
- Taylor Swift: Taylor Swift -> Fearless
- Katy Perry: One of the Boys -> Teenage Dream
- Ed Sheeran: + -> x
And that's just in pop.
Rare, but not unheard of.

[ks_dollar]

Originally posted by Bounce

What's Beyonce's "game changing album" only selling 3.8m have to do with ARTPOP ?

You came for Beyonce's album like it was less "game-changing" than ARTPOP. You also came for her album like it sold less than ARTPOP.

Moral of the story: Don't come for BEYONCÈ with ARTPOP.

[popmagic]

Originally posted by 2AM

- Adele: 19 -> 21
- Taylor Swift: Taylor Swift -> Fearless
- Katy Perry: One of the Boys -> Teenage Dream
- Ed Sheeran: + -> x
And that's just in pop.
Rare, but not unheard of.

None of those were huge debut eras. They were moderate at best.

[2AM]

Originally posted by Ash12345

C2C wasn't a LP lol it was just a jazz collab album
Artpop+BTW (her last 2 LPS) sold over 2x as much...

Do you know what an LP is?
By definition, Cheek to Cheek is Lady Gaga's latest LP release.
This is fact. A collaborative album? Yes. A jazz album? Yes. Gaga's latest LP release? Yes.
Accept it and move on.

[2AM]

Originally posted by popmagic

None of those were huge debut eras. They were moderate at best.

Riiiiight.
Because an era isn't "huge" unless it sells 10 million copies.

[RihannasVeryOwn]

Originally posted by Giselle

Not Kim snatching Vogue cover number THREE

Yassssss

The sanctity of the Vogue cover is gone, let's bow our heads for a minutes silence.

[conatus]

Ed's debut was huge, at least in the UK. I'm not sure about the US.

[Bounce]

Originally posted by 2AM

So I wouldn't be telling someone "Your fav's game changing album sold 3.8m so hush" when my faves last two LP's combined couldn't outsell it.

Why are using Gaga's Jazz album as a drag? How much do Jazz albums sell nowadays?

Anyway he tried to come for an artist who outsold his fav + matched his fav touring gross without doing the super bowl so he should stay in his lane.

Originally posted by ks_dollar

You came for Beyonce's album like it was less "game-changing" than ARTPOP. You also came for her album like it sold less than ARTPOP.

Moral of the story: Don't come for BEYONCÈ with ARTPOP.

I didn't mention ARTPOP in anyway? & Yeah thanks for mentioning ARTPOP now that I think of it his fav's game changing album only sold 1.8m more, tragic.

[popmagic]

Originally posted by 2AM

Riiiiight.
Because an era isn't "huge" unless it sells 10 million copies.

19 era didn't even have a number 1 single.

+ is a local mess.

TSwift was a country record, what is an era.

One of the Boys had just a single #1, didn't sell near 5 million.

You don't provide a ground whatsoever.

[ks_dollar]

Originally posted by popmagic

19 era didn't even have a number 1 single.

+ is a local mess.

TSwift was a country record, what is an era.

One of the Boys had just a single #1, didn't sell near 5 million.

You don't provide a ground whatsoever.

Where is the giant biblio when you need it?

[2AM]

Originally posted by popmagic

19 era didn't even have a number 1 single.

+ is a local mess.

TSwift was a country record, what is an era.

One of the Boys had just a single #1, didn't sell near 5 million.

You don't provide a ground whatsoever.

What ground are you providing?
Like, all those debuts were hugely successful and their follow-ups were more successful.
Now, you apparently have outrageous standards for "hugely successful" so this conversation is pretty much over.

[Ash12345]

Originally posted by 2AM

- Adele: 19 -> 21
- Taylor Swift: Taylor Swift -> Fearless
- Katy Perry: One of the Boys -> Teenage Dream
- Ed Sheeran: + -> x
And that's just in pop.
Rare, but not unheard of.

+ and OOTB sold like 3-4 million
and like I said TFM wasn't a decline from TF, if you can show 3 consecutive equally huge albums I'll agree with you tbh

[Tim£]

Ciara is more attractive and more talented than maRhionette, this is a fact

[Ash12345]

Originally posted by 2AM

Do you know what an LP is?
By definition, Cheek to Cheek is Lady Gaga's latest LP release.
This is fact. A collaborative album? Yes. A jazz album? Yes. Gaga's latest LP release? Yes.
Accept it and move on.

Is MTV unplugged a katy perry album?
Just out of curiosity

[ks_dollar]

Originally posted by Bounce

Why are using Gaga's Jazz album as a drag? How much do Jazz albums sell nowadays?

Anyway he tried to come for an artist who outsold his fav + matched his fav touring gross without doing the super bowl so he should stay in his lane.



I didn't mention ARTPOP in anyway? & Yeah thanks for mentioning ARTPOP now that I think of it his fav's game changing album only sold 1.8m more, tragic.

Glad u agree ARTPOP is the a standard of album failure.