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News: All Illegals Should Be Slaves: Californian Council
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I find it extremely hard to believe members here just don't like illegal immigrants because of the illegality of it all. I'm sure you look down upon all new immigrants. If a stereotypical mexican with dirty clothes, looking for work was around you you know damn well your racist ass would steer clear. Even if they told you they were legal and had the papers to prove it you would still hate them because something in your mind is just wired that way. I don't know how I mean I can't explain homophobia how am I supposed to explain racism.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Blade
So you're saying that in countries where homosexuality is illegal, gays shouldn't break the law and live a fake "straight" lifestyle. Why break the law because you want a better life right? Because all laws are just and fair right?
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Immigrants are not being oppressed or prevented from doing something unfairly. They are willingly breaking the law and coming to the US. It's apples and oranges.
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
You don't need immigrants to pick your food. Not before they came here, not now.
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Apparently you do, because they're the ones doing it. Go to a field in California and tell me how many black and white Americans are working there collecting the food. 
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I see why people may oppose immigration (I disagree with them though) but using racism as an argument for that is just pathetic.
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Member Since: 3/19/2012
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Originally posted by EOMM92
Mexico is a peaceful country, the ignorance.
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Sure it is! Only 100,000+ killed in drug violence since 2006!
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Originally posted by EOMM92
And also to that dumb woman, mexico is not a third world country 
It's the 15th largest economy of the world like wtf  |
Hmm. Lemme Google that.
"Over the last few decades since the fall of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War, the term Third World has been used interchangeably with the least developed countries, Global South and developing countries to describe poorer countries that have struggled to attain steady economic development"
Let's see:
From Forbes:
At best it's a "Newly Industrialized Country".
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
You don't need immigrants to pick your food. Not before they came here, not now.
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um...you do realize that the reason people didn't need immigrants in the past was because they had slaves, right? and after the civil war they still kept black people in a somewhat similar system of sharecropping for a long time, at least until immigrants started flooding into america and doing low wage jobs, a thing that dates all the way back to the industrial revolution. people need cheap labor from people willing to do menial jobs to pick their food. they always have.
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Immigrants are not being oppressed or prevented from doing something unfairly. They are willingly breaking the law and coming to the US. It's apples and oranges.
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Immigrants are not being oppressed? I really hope you're not serious.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Immigration Law. Identity Theft. Labor Laws., etc, etc.
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Identity theft? Really? OK.
And they're not the ones breaking labor laws. The ones who employ them to work more than 40 hours a week, while paying them less than minimum wage and denying them benefits are the ones.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by MaRy
Illegal immigration is a tough situation. Italy is being literally invaded by african immigrants who are kept in prison like conditions and then deported, yet I don't see anyone claiming the should stay in Italy?
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Exactly, it's only racist when America follows its immigration laws. Newsflash, every other country has way stricter laws, like the UK and Australia, but no one is calling them evil and racist. Double standards.
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Immigrants are not being oppressed or prevented from doing something unfairly. They are willingly breaking the law and coming to the US. It's apples and oranges.
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I stopped reading there. It's quite obvious that you are a very sheltered human being who hasn't been exposed to the horrors some people go through to have something so basic to everyone else; a better life.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by MaRy
now gerls, you know I'm very progressive but, illegal immigrants are illegal. It's wrong to say "they should be slaves" and I'm happy she got fired but why should the USA pay for the overpopulation of Mexico?
It's true the USA conquered lots of Mexico centuries ago but even if that did not happen I'm sure illegal immigrants would still try to move into the better economy.
Illegal immigration is a tough situation. Italy is being literally invaded by african immigrants who are kept in prison like conditions and then deported, yet I don't see anyone claiming the should stay in Italy?
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it has nothing to do with overpopulation...
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by Trent W
Well they are gonna take it back in some years, I think that is not far away the day that in Texas and California the majority will be Mexicans, and once that point is reached, the government won't be able to do much hahaha
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lol @ you thinking California and Texas would want to secede back to Mexico. What kind of fantasy world
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a mess. They usually do labor no one wants to do so I don't see the problem.
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Originally posted by MaRy
now gerls, you know I'm very progressive but, illegal immigrants are illegal. It's wrong to say "they should be slaves" and I'm happy she got fired but why should the USA pay for the overpopulation of Mexico?
It's true the USA conquered lots of Mexico centuries ago but even if that did not happen I'm sure illegal immigrants would still try to move into the better economy.
Illegal immigration is a tough situation. Italy is being literally invaded by african immigrants who are kept in prison like conditions and then deported, yet I don't see anyone claiming the should stay in Italy?
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The thing is that this is not happening only in the US, I mean you said it yourself a lot of European countries have the same problem. The problem comes from the ignorance of reproduction. 3rd world countries have the tendency of having 8 children so they can help them work and the migrate to other countries for better opportunities while people in the first world countries don't want children and they are just not reproducing much, so in the near future the majority of immigrants will be the next generation those 1st world countries.
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
All you have to do is make it so they can't work here, and their children can't go to school here, and they'll self-deport.
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as if that'll happen
you must not know how much illegals are vital to our economy
these business owners don't want to fork over the money to hire ppl to pay them properly so they purposely seek out the illegals...that's why our food isn't as expensive as it should be
let me tell you...getting rid of them will make your life worse than it already is
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
Apparently you do, because they're the ones doing it. Go to a field in California and tell me how many black and white Americans are working there collecting the food.
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Farmers are able to get from the government and unlimited supply of worker visas to have migrant workers, including Mexicans come to the country on a temporary basis to pick food. They choose not to do this b/c they want to be able skirt labor laws. Immigrants who live in this country on a permanent basis are not needed to pick crops, not then not now. And maybe black and white Americans aren't getting jobs is b/c farmers would have to follow the law and pay fair wages.
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Originally posted by Toxicity.
lol @ you thinking California and Texas would want to secede back to Mexico. What kind of fantasy world
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a mess. They usually do labor no one wants to do so I don't see the problem. |
Sure they will be asking when they are the majority.
The Government doesn't deport them because they depend on them as simple as that, they would've solve this issue a long time ago.
But well it seems like it's getting out of hand
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Sinister
as if that'll happen
you must not know how much illegals are vital to our economy
these business owners don't want to fork over the money to hire ppl to pay them properly so they purposely seek out the illegals...that's why our food isn't as expensive as it should be
let me tell you...getting rid of them will make your life worse than it already is
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Illegal Immigrants are not vital to our economy, and are in fact a net negative when you factor in unemployment, stagnant wages, and their proportional overuse of social services.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Trent W
The thing is that this is not happening only in the US, I mean you said it yourself a lot of European countries have the same problem. The problem comes from the ignorance of reproduction. 3rd world countries have the tendency of having 8 children so they can help them work and the migrate to other countries for better opportunities while people in the first world countries don't want children and they are just not reproducing much, so in the near future the majority of immigrants will be the next generation those 1st world countries.
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wtf??? that's not it at all. you must think mexico is some kind of uncivilized barbarian wilderness where they don't have any technology or something when it's really not. people are immigrating from mexico to the US because northern mexico is filled with drug lords and murder and people want to go somewhere else. it has nothing to do with them having a lot of children (in fact i actually doubt that's even true).
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Member Since: 3/19/2012
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Originally posted by Trent W
Sure they will be asking when they are the majority.
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You actually believing this...
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by Goosey
Nope, they shouldn't be "slaves", but they should be rounded up and deported. They're illegal. The closest thing to "slave" would be to lock them up and sentence them to hard labour - not a bad idea on the face of it, but in this day of bulldozers and backhoes the costs might outweigh the benefits.
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Goosey I know you love trolling about social issues and that's your schtick but you're being a bit of a mess. "Hard labour" what is this.. North Korea?
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Farmers are able to get from the government and unlimited supply of worker visas to have migrant workers, including Mexicans come to the country on a temporary basis to pick food. They choose not to do this b/c they want to be able skirt labor laws. Immigrants who live in this country on a permanent basis are not needed to pick crops, not then not now. And maybe black and white Americans aren't getting jobs is b/c farmers would have to follow the law and pay fair wages.
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They "choose" to do that because the process to follow the immigration laws is quite complicated. And yes, it's the farmers' fault too, I think we're getting somewhere.
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