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Discussion: Mariah Carey Discography Rate - Results in OP!
Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by feelslikeadream
If you consider
All My Life
to be a worthy track, then I guess you could be right 
When are you submitting your scores? |
Omfg noooo  not those whiny ass vocals!
I finished my scores on Sunday, and I'll go over them and edit since I tend to score songs relative to the album than her entire catalogue the first time around. I'll send it in 2 weeks latest!
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Originally posted by Pecinta Mariah
Listening to the so-called-classic Butterfly
First track
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Originally posted by Buyonce1814
When I Saw You and Whenever You Call are both trash ass songs that should never have made it to the album tbh
I will say that When I Saw You is more tolerable than Whenever You Throw Up |
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Originally posted by Buyonce1814
I'm sorry the truth about When I Slit My Eyes and Whenever You Vomit bothers you
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Originally posted by Tigre
The Art of Letting Your Vocal Cords Explode is trash  |
Why are some of my favorite fellow lambs doing this to me???
 
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Originally posted by feelslikeadream
I don't think SE should have been the 2nd single at all, but I do think it's the best song on the album.
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Flawless taste as almost always 
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Originally posted by conatus
It wouldn't have surprised me if it was Side Effects, though, because the Lambs usually have poor taste in "singles that should have been".
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But you're an expert I assume?
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I sabotaged Side Effects on purpose because it's not good (besides the lyrics) and I knew the Lambs were gonna overrate it. AS USUAL.
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Originally posted by Tigre
I sabotaged Side Effects on purpose because it's not good (besides the lyrics) and I knew the Lambs were gonna overrate it. AS USUAL.
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Me with Memoirs
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I hope you're praising smash power pop/R&B/soul/disco graduation ballad Thank God I Found You at best.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Tigre
The Art of Letting Your Vocal Cords Explode is trash |
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Originally posted by Tigre
I sabotaged Side Effects on purpose because it's not good (besides the lyrics) and I knew the Lambs were gonna overrate it. AS USUAL.
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This is true
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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Originally posted by Tigre
I sabotaged Side Effects on purpose because it's not good (besides the lyrics) and I knew the Lambs were gonna overrate it. AS USUAL.
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Not to pick on Tigre (love ya!), put let me take a moment to address the flaw in this thinking. The sabotage here is based on his assumptions about how others rated. And that assumption, in this case and in many of the cases y'all think you know, is wrong. So now instead of Side Effects landing where it should go based on actual opinion, it will stay in the bottom 1/3 of the rate while mediocre songs with just average scores rise to the top. (And this example doesn't matter much cause Tigre doesn't even really like SE, but you get my point.)
I understand rates are a matter of opinion and it's all just for laughs, but some of the rates I have so far seem to be clearly influenced by false perceptions on how others are going to rate. I don't want to give anything away, but as one example, I simply can't believe that after all the acclaim (both critical and from Lambs on ATRL) the first half of Butterfly has, that the songs from it are ranked where they currently are. So I have to assume people are rating them lower because they want their favorite 'underdog' songs to get recognition. But if you think both My All and All My Life deserve 10s, you should give them both 10s, not sabotage the more popular one because you think it's "too popular."
In the end, the results of the rates will not reflect actual opinion on songs but instead how perceived opinions alter scores, and therefore the whole point of the rate is kind of gone. I'm just here to add, divide, and supply the graphics, so I'll do that, but just remember y'all, don't even TRY to come for me when Butterfly's highest ranking song is in the 30s and a Charmbracelet song wins. If I posted the results as they are now, I can already see the meltdowns 
(Wait, this kind of reads like a rant, but I'm not crying on the bathroom floor or anything, I'm just pointing out why you should rate honestly!  )
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Originally posted by sk8erfan
What did I just sign up for?
Daybore - 5.67
Crucify me if you want, but there are like 4 or 5 songs on this album that sound exactly the same...At least there were Fantasy, Underenath the Stars, One Sweet Day, Long Ago and Looking In to get me through this..Music Box please be good |
Wait what? Are yo serious right now?
How on earth can you enjoy Mariah Carey and dislike Always Be My Baby, Forever & Melt Away? All of those songs are so damn good....
Just because you find a song boring, doesn't mean it deserves a low score. Half of Emotions is boring but it still gets decent scores from me because fillers =/= Bad songs.
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Originally posted by feelslikeadream
Not to pick on Tigre (love ya!), put let me take a moment to address the flaw in this thinking. The sabotage here is based on his assumptions about how others rated. And that assumption, in this case and in many of the cases y'all think you know, is wrong. So now instead of Side Effects landing where it should go based on actual opinion, it will stay in the bottom 1/3 of the rate while mediocre songs with just average scores rise to the top. (And this example doesn't matter much cause Tigre doesn't even really like SE, but you get my point.)
I understand rates are a matter of opinion and it's all just for laughs, but some of the rates I have so far seem to be clearly influenced by false perceptions on how others are going to rate. I don't want to give anything away, but as one example, I simply can't believe that after all the acclaim (both critical and from Lambs on ATRL) the first half of Butterfly has, that the songs from it are ranked where they currently are. So I have to assume people are rating them lower because they want their favorite 'underdog' songs to get recognition. But if you think both My All and All My Life deserve 10s, you should give them both 10s, not sabotage the more popular one because you think it's "too popular."
In the end, the results of the rates will not reflect actual opinion on songs but instead how perceived opinions alter scores, and therefore the whole point of the rate is kind of gone. I'm just here to add, divide, and supply the graphics, so I'll do that, but just remember y'all, don't even TRY to come for me when Butterfly's highest ranking song is in the 30s and a Charmbracelet song wins. If I posted the results as they are now, I can already see the meltdowns
(Wait, this kind of reads like a rant, but I'm not crying on the bathroom floor or anything, I'm just pointing out why you should rate honestly! ) |
We understand I'll try to make my scores as fair as possible.
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Originally posted by feelslikeadream
Not to pick on Tigre (love ya!), put let me take a moment to address the flaw in this thinking. The sabotage here is based on his assumptions about how others rated. And that assumption, in this case and in many of the cases y'all think you know, is wrong. So now instead of Side Effects landing where it should go based on actual opinion, it will stay in the bottom 1/3 of the rate while mediocre songs with just average scores rise to the top. (And this example doesn't matter much cause Tigre doesn't even really like SE, but you get my point.)
I understand rates are a matter of opinion and it's all just for laughs, but some of the rates I have so far seem to be clearly influenced by false perceptions on how others are going to rate. I don't want to give anything away, but as one example, I simply can't believe that after all the acclaim (both critical and from Lambs on ATRL) the first half of Butterfly has, that the songs from it are ranked where they currently are. So I have to assume people are rating them lower because they want their favorite 'underdog' songs to get recognition. But if you think both My All and All My Life deserve 10s, you should give them both 10s, not sabotage the more popular one because you think it's "too popular."
In the end, the results of the rates will not reflect actual opinion on songs but instead how perceived opinions alter scores, and therefore the whole point of the rate is kind of gone. I'm just here to add, divide, and supply the graphics, so I'll do that, but just remember y'all, don't even TRY to come for me when Butterfly's highest ranking song is in the 30s and a Charmbracelet song wins. If I posted the results as they are now, I can already see the meltdowns
(Wait, this kind of reads like a rant, but I'm not crying on the bathroom floor or anything, I'm just pointing out why you should rate honestly! ) |
In all honestly I was thinking about this after I sent my rates and some of the songs I rated deserve more than they got..and some deserve less than I gave. I have until May to edit though 
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Originally posted by feelslikeadream
Not to pick on Tigre (love ya!), put let me take a moment to address the flaw in this thinking. The sabotage here is based on his assumptions about how others rated. And that assumption, in this case and in many of the cases y'all think you know, is wrong. So now instead of Side Effects landing where it should go based on actual opinion, it will stay in the bottom 1/3 of the rate while mediocre songs with just average scores rise to the top. (And this example doesn't matter much cause Tigre doesn't even really like SE, but you get my point.)
I understand rates are a matter of opinion and it's all just for laughs, but some of the rates I have so far seem to be clearly influenced by false perceptions on how others are going to rate. I don't want to give anything away, but as one example, I simply can't believe that after all the acclaim (both critical and from Lambs on ATRL) the first half of Butterfly has, that the songs from it are ranked where they currently are. So I have to assume people are rating them lower because they want their favorite 'underdog' songs to get recognition. But if you think both My All and All My Life deserve 10s, you should give them both 10s, not sabotage the more popular one because you think it's "too popular."
In the end, the results of the rates will not reflect actual opinion on songs but instead how perceived opinions alter scores, and therefore the whole point of the rate is kind of gone. I'm just here to add, divide, and supply the graphics, so I'll do that, but just remember y'all, don't even TRY to come for me when Butterfly's highest ranking song is in the 30s and a Charmbracelet song wins. If I posted the results as they are now, I can already see the meltdowns
(Wait, this kind of reads like a rant, but I'm not crying on the bathroom floor or anything, I'm just pointing out why you should rate honestly! ) |
Agreed completely. Although I'm guilty of sabotaging some results in past rates, This isn't one to sabotage cause it's just for fun. I hope some people see this and revise their rates.
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I haven't sent my rates in yet, but I can say with 100% honesty that I haven't sabotaged any album in the hopes of my favs ranking higher.
Y'all are just doing the dirrty (Legendtina style) and need to have your rating privileges provoked. Especially if you're dragging what many call her greatest piece of work Butterfly.
I'm sure if we went back a few months through this base, some of y'all would be exposed for your flip flopping taste.
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im sure the results will fix themselves when the serious lambs vote, they'll fix the damage done by the charmbracelet stans
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The only song I was considering sabotaging was "Fantasy" and that's only because its won the singles rate apparently.
But then again, my version of sabotage is deducting what would have been an 8.5 to like a 7. 
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I only did it with Side Effects love! I'll change it to a more appropriate rate 
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Originally posted by Wicked
If It's Over is the greatest song of all time.
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Originally posted by Rocket
I haven't sent my rates in yet, but I can say with 100% honesty that I haven't sabotaged any album in the hopes of my favs ranking higher.
Y'all are just doing the dirrty (Legendtina style) and need to have your rating privileges provoked. Especially if you're dragging what many call her greatest piece of work Butterfly.
I'm sure if we went back a few months through this base, some of y'all would be exposed for your flip flopping taste.
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Is this LieTeller shade 
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Originally posted by lovesong
The only song I was considering sabotaging was "Fantasy" and that's only because its won the singles rate apparently.
But then again, my version of sabotage is deducting what would have been an 8.5 to like a 7. |
dddddd  a 1.5 difference is huge when songs are separated by .001.
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Originally posted by Wicked
Averages so far 
Mariah Carey - 8.96
Emotions - 8.82 (wtf I like Emotions much more than s/t) |
Omg at MC being that high .! Such a blah debut..
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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Originally posted by Tigre
I only did it with Side Effects love! I'll change it to a more appropriate rate |
Don't fret dahling, I was just using you as an example. I'm counting on your scores to come through for Memoirs. Her lashings so far...
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Member Since: 9/4/2012
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do you need me to up my scores to all 10s for memoirs
this wont go unpunished
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