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You are one of my favs too 
I stopped loggin in because my phone was stolen (I am almost always online on mobile), and even though I bought a new one it isnt the same, so Ive stopped visiting forums, tumblr...
But Ill try to post more often, I missed it
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I remember your posts, very informative  I don't want to see you underrated.
And I understand, like I was busy preparing my trip recently. I also love backtracking posts here, it's a real joy doing so.
Edit: And 200 pages are a lot for you, worry about it.
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Originally posted by kevinnyc
In fact, no matter Tidal or Sidal, any healthy streaming is good news for music industry and artists, especially artists.
Edit: Free streaming is like stealing from the artists.
Edit2: Of course users love free streaming, technically any free things.
Edit3: But it's on the expense of the artists, the creators of music, and the real engine of the industry.
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I agree with you. I think that you will see the quality of music go up with TIDAL. I also happen to think that Spotify's free-tier is eventually going to come to an end. Why?
1. Taylor Swift set an example, and these other artists -- Jay Z, Rihanna, Madonna, Beyonce, etc. have jumped on her bandwagon. Other artists may follow. Well what will happen with Spotify, when all the major artists start leaving them. No one is going to be using Spotify if the Major Artists are not there.
2. It is the Major Labels that control Spotify and not the other way around. Universal Music Groups CEO: Lucien Grainge has stated that the current Music scene cannot be supported by Spotify's ad-sponsored free-tier. And they are up for renegotiation in the summer. What happens when Grainge decides to pull the plug.
3. You have been seeing references all over the internet, especially by Borschetta and TIDAL: 'The concept that music has value". They are trying to get that point across to users, perhaps, because something is going to happen to end the free-tier.
4. Of course, everyone wants things for free, but that is not possible. It could never be possible. I think a lot of people are upset with TIDAL, especially ATRL'rs because of the fact that the free-tier services may be coming to an end soon. But they need to reassess things from a music industry standpoint. Look at any product out there. Can you walk into a store and get a package of gum for free, not unless you steal it. Let us say that everyone decides to get gum for free, the gum company is going to say "To hell with it; we won't make any more gum". This is what they mean by value. You want value, then you have to pay for it.
5. One of Spotify's main arguments about the free-tier was that it prevents illegal downloading. But this is really a cop-out. It is the same as the gum example I provided. Well, I will let you have the gum so that you don't steal it. Same thing with music. They want to give it away so that no one steals it. But this does not make sense. Any form of stealing is illegal, so how about making the rules and penalties over illegal downloading stronger, instead. And I think there are experts on this who are working on a plan to do away with illegal downloading.
6. I think also that too many fans have it set in their mind that music is their right to have for free; They say I want you to give me free music. Well, then, what do you think happens: Artists will start cutting costs; especially artists that depend on other writers (they do have to pay them, although, this does not apply to Swift as she is her own writer. But just saying, there is production, publishing, marketing (and all these go into the quality of the music). If Artists do not receive any sort of payment for these items, then they may end up using a broken-string guitar and have their two-year old children create lyrics for them (I am just exaggerating), but you get the point. So, I really think that those who want free music should get over themselves and look at the reality instead. Sure, if advertising could pay for it all that would be great, but again, Grainge of Universal is saying that is not feasible.
Sorry for ranting on, but I like trying to get a point across.
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Originally posted by TayGod
I agree with you. I think that you will see the quality of music go up with TIDAL. I also happen to think that Spotify's free-tier is eventually going to come to an end. Why?
1. Taylor Swift set an example, and these other artists -- Jay Z, Rihanna, Madonna, Beyonce, etc. have jumped on her bandwagon. Other artists may follow. Well what will happen with Spotify, when all the major artists start leaving them. No one is going to be using Spotify if the Major Artists are not there.
2. It is the Major Labels that control Spotify and not the other way around. Universal Music Groups CEO: Lucien Grainge has stated that the current Music scene cannot be supported by Spotify's ad-sponsored free-tier. And they are up for renegotiation in the summer. What happens when Grainge decides to pull the plug.
3. You have been seeing references all over the internet, especially by Borschetta and TIDAL: 'The concept that music has value". They are trying to get that point across to users, perhaps, because something is going to happen to end the free-tier.
4. Of course, everyone wants things for free, but that is not possible. It could never be possible. I think a lot of people are upset with TIDAL, especially ATRL'rs because of the fact that the free-tier services may be coming to an end soon. But they need to reassess things from a music industry standpoint. Look at any product out there. Can you walk into a store and get a package of gum for free, not unless you steal it. Let us say that everyone decides to get gum for free, the gum company is going to say "To hell with it; we won't make any more gum". This is what they mean by value. You want value, then you have to pay for it.
5. One of Spotify's main arguments about the free-tier was that it prevents illegal downloading. But this is really a cop-out. It is the same as the gum example I provided. Well, I will let you have the gum so that you don't steal it. Same thing with music. They want to give it away so that no one steals it. But this does not make sense. Any form of stealing is illegal, so how about making the rules and penalties over illegal downloading stronger, instead. And I think there are experts on this who are working on a plan to do away with illegal downloading.
6. I think also that too many fans have it set in their mind that music is their right to have for free; They say I want you to give me free music. Well, then, what do you think happens: Artists will start cutting costs; especially artists that depend on other writers (they do have to pay them, although, this does not apply to Swift as she is her own writer. But just saying, there is production, publishing, marketing (and all these go into the quality of the music). If Artists do not receive any sort of payment for these items, then they may end up using a broken-string guitar and have their two-year old children create lyrics for them (I am just exaggerating), but you get the point. So, I really think that those who want free music should get over themselves and look at the reality instead. Sure, if advertising could pay for it all that would be great, but again, Grainge of Universal is saying that is not feasible.
Sorry for ranting on, but I like trying to get a point across.
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You are in a base full of smart people, they love your thoughts, I really love reading your posts
Edit: Soooo please don't say sorry, it's really an honor to have you here 
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Originally posted by kevinnyc
You are in a base full of smart people, they love your thoughts, I really love reading your posts
Edit: Soooo please don't say sorry, it's really an honor to have you here 
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Thanks Kevin! I appreciate your appreciation!
  
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Originally posted by TayGod
I agree with you. I think that you will see the quality of music go up with TIDAL. I also happen to think that Spotify's free-tier is eventually going to come to an end. Why?
1. Taylor Swift set an example, and these other artists -- Jay Z, Rihanna, Madonna, Beyonce, etc. have jumped on her bandwagon. Other artists may follow. Well what will happen with Spotify, when all the major artists start leaving them. No one is going to be using Spotify if the Major Artists are not there.
2. It is the Major Labels that control Spotify and not the other way around. Universal Music Groups CEO: Lucien Grainge has stated that the current Music scene cannot be supported by Spotify's ad-sponsored free-tier. And they are up for renegotiation in the summer. What happens when Grainge decides to pull the plug.
3. You have been seeing references all over the internet, especially by Borschetta and TIDAL: 'The concept that music has value". They are trying to get that point across to users, perhaps, because something is going to happen to end the free-tier.
4. Of course, everyone wants things for free, but that is not possible. It could never be possible. I think a lot of people are upset with TIDAL, especially ATRL'rs because of the fact that the free-tier services may be coming to an end soon. But they need to reassess things from a music industry standpoint. Look at any product out there. Can you walk into a store and get a package of gum for free, not unless you steal it. Let us say that everyone decides to get gum for free, the gum company is going to say "To hell with it; we won't make any more gum". This is what they mean by value. You want value, then you have to pay for it.
5. One of Spotify's main arguments about the free-tier was that it prevents illegal downloading. But this is really a cop-out. It is the same as the gum example I provided. Well, I will let you have the gum so that you don't steal it. Same thing with music. They want to give it away so that no one steals it. But this does not make sense. Any form of stealing is illegal, so how about making the rules and penalties over illegal downloading stronger, instead. And I think there are experts on this who are working on a plan to do away with illegal downloading.
6. I think also that too many fans have it set in their mind that music is their right to have for free; They say I want you to give me free music. Well, then, what do you think happens: Artists will start cutting costs; especially artists that depend on other writers (they do have to pay them, although, this does not apply to Swift as she is her own writer. But just saying, there is production, publishing, marketing (and all these go into the quality of the music). If Artists do not receive any sort of payment for these items, then they may end up using a broken-string guitar and have their two-year old children create lyrics for them (I am just exaggerating), but you get the point. So, I really think that those who want free music should get over themselves and look at the reality instead. Sure, if advertising could pay for it all that would be great, but again, Grainge of Universal is saying that is not feasible.
Sorry for ranting on, but I like trying to get a point across.
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Tea is everywhere
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Originally posted by TayGod
I agree with you. I think that you will see the quality of music go up with TIDAL. I also happen to think that Spotify's free-tier is eventually going to come to an end. Why?
1. Taylor Swift set an example, and these other artists -- Jay Z, Rihanna, Madonna, Beyonce, etc. have jumped on her bandwagon. Other artists may follow. Well what will happen with Spotify, when all the major artists start leaving them. No one is going to be using Spotify if the Major Artists are not there.
2. It is the Major Labels that control Spotify and not the other way around. Universal Music Groups CEO: Lucien Grainge has stated that the current Music scene cannot be supported by Spotify's ad-sponsored free-tier. And they are up for renegotiation in the summer. What happens when Grainge decides to pull the plug.
3. You have been seeing references all over the internet, especially by Borschetta and TIDAL: 'The concept that music has value". They are trying to get that point across to users, perhaps, because something is going to happen to end the free-tier.
4. Of course, everyone wants things for free, but that is not possible. It could never be possible. I think a lot of people are upset with TIDAL, especially ATRL'rs because of the fact that the free-tier services may be coming to an end soon. But they need to reassess things from a music industry standpoint. Look at any product out there. Can you walk into a store and get a package of gum for free, not unless you steal it. Let us say that everyone decides to get gum for free, the gum company is going to say "To hell with it; we won't make any more gum". This is what they mean by value. You want value, then you have to pay for it.
5. One of Spotify's main arguments about the free-tier was that it prevents illegal downloading. But this is really a cop-out. It is the same as the gum example I provided. Well, I will let you have the gum so that you don't steal it. Same thing with music. They want to give it away so that no one steals it. But this does not make sense. Any form of stealing is illegal, so how about making the rules and penalties over illegal downloading stronger, instead. And I think there are experts on this who are working on a plan to do away with illegal downloading.
6. I think also that too many fans have it set in their mind that music is their right to have for free; They say I want you to give me free music. Well, then, what do you think happens: Artists will start cutting costs; especially artists that depend on other writers (they do have to pay them, although, this does not apply to Swift as she is her own writer. But just saying, there is production, publishing, marketing (and all these go into the quality of the music). If Artists do not receive any sort of payment for these items, then they may end up using a broken-string guitar and have their two-year old children create lyrics for them (I am just exaggerating), but you get the point. So, I really think that those who want free music should get over themselves and look at the reality instead. Sure, if advertising could pay for it all that would be great, but again, Grainge of Universal is saying that is not feasible.
Sorry for ranting on, but I like trying to get a point across.
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They should add this to the Bible. Your word is truth, TayGod.
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This is so ****ing embarrassing.
And someone will say 'most US stans are sleeping right now'. Like wtfffff...!!!????? She's global already so where others. I mean Asians, Europeans, Latinese, Oceanians, Africans, Antarticans??? And not you guys snubbing us and claiming that only American Swifities are the most respected stan here
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This ****ing bitches handwriting looking like calligraphy 
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This ****ing bitches handwriting looking like calligraphy 
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Meredith sure has got a beautiful handwriting  Lord's lucky she's got such a cute little *****.
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Originally posted by Coklek92
This is so ****ing embarrassing.
And someone will say 'most US stans are sleeping right now'. Like wtfffff...!!!????? She's global already so where others. I mean Asians, Europeans, Latinese, Oceanians, Africans, Antarticans??? And not you guys snubbing us and claiming that only American Swifities are the most respected stan here
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RIP the base

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Originally posted by Coklek92
This is so ****ing embarrassing.
And someone will say 'most US stans are sleeping right now'. Like wtfffff...!!!????? She's global already so where others. I mean Asians, Europeans, Latinese, Oceanians, Africans, Antarticans??? And not you guys snubbing us and claiming that only American Swifities are the most respected stan here
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There's nobody browsing since I don't have much time to entertain people in the base.
+ my WP count requires me to stay quiet for a couple of days.

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This ****ing bitches handwriting looking like calligraphy 
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You are aware that that note is typed, photoshopped and not from the Lord yes?
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Originally posted by Coklek92
This is so ****ing embarrassing.
And someone will say 'most US stans are sleeping right now'. Like wtfffff...!!!????? She's global already so where others. I mean Asians, Europeans, Latinese, Oceanians, Africans, Antarticans??? And not you guys snubbing us and claiming that only American Swifities are the most respected stan here
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Like, what is there to talk about? Taylor's leg scratch from meredith which magically disappeared? Taylor and Calvin dating? Taylor and how Style is flopping? Been there done that.
Bitch doesn't even even care about the 1989 era anymore, why would us fans be?
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You are aware that that note is typed, photoshopped and not from the Lord yes?
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who the hell is dibbles?
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