[RafaelBuzz]

Originally posted by Inspirit

Some people actually like Wolf ? like, for real ?

Well, if you listen like 45 times it starts to get good

[T-Swizz]

Originally posted by RafaelBuzz

Well, if you listen like 45 times it starts to get good

noT here for the subtle Rih promo

[Inspirit]

Originally posted by RafaelBuzz

Well, if you listen like 45 times it starts to get good

Oh really, good to know. I'll let you know about it by 2050 then.

[Regina]

Don't act like you guys don't hate on a song then come back two hours later saying, "It's growing on me." or "It gets better the more you listen to it." Somehow that doesn't work with Wolf? Having to listen to it more than once to digest it is somehow bad and can be used as shade? Y'all need to be consistent.

Originally posted by T-Swizz

"Wolf was a strategic anomaly"

I like how you glossed over everything and chose one detail to respond to. Predictably, of course.

And yes, idiot. The only reason they came out with Wolf was so they could come out with Growl. So many groups release songs that don't get the attention they deserve because the groups are nugu. Up until Wolf, Exo were pretty much nugu. If they wouldn't have released Wolf, or basically any song to get people talking and waiting for what they were going to do next, I doubt Growl would have been as big as it was. Almost all Exo fans will agree that Wolf was bad for a reason. It was so bad that it actually helped propel them into superstardom, as intended.

Originally posted by T-Swizz

"EXO isn't aesthetically driven" *pans over the 20+ pre-debut teasers*

Do you like, not know what aesthetic means in this context? Every group releases teasers. Even more when they're debuting. That doesn't mean they're image driven. An image based artist or group would be Big Bang or Hyuna. Idols whose clothing or "concepts" play a significant role in their career, and they almost become known for that. The content of their music videos or their "fashion sense" sometimes overshadows their music. This is not Exo, at all. However, it is RV. Or at least, SM seems to be shaping them into this kind of group.

Originally posted by Sorbet

One of the reasons I never write essays is because people are gonna respond with a one-liner anyway.

I mean, I already won. If he had an intelligent retort or could actually negate any of what I had typed, his post would have looked a lot different. But alas, "T-Swizz" only has the brain power to post gifs and anything more than five words is a challenge.

[joshsquat]

Regina, the overly pressed/obsessed stan card look is very 2012. Could you retire it?

[Cheers]

El Dorado and Stupid Cupid will be the best SM album tracks of the year

Not that they had much competition but yeah

[Regina]

Originally posted by joshsquat

Regina, the overly pressed/obsessed stan card look is very 2012. Could you retire it?

I'm pressed because I'm explaining something without using gifs and slang? That says more about you than me.

[joshsquat]

Originally posted by Regina

I'm pressed because I'm explaining something without using gifs and slang? That says more about you than me.

You're the type of stan that ruins a group for me since it seems you can't let any other group have a "shine" or "moment" without bringing EXO(hausted) into it. That says more about you than me, sis.

Missed you

[Sept]

ICC's views is almost 900k now, after 15 hours

SLAY VELVET

[Regina]

Originally posted by joshsquat

You're the type of stan that ruins a group for me since it seems you can't let any other group have a "shine" or "moment" without bringing EXO(hausted) into it. That says more about you than me, sis.

Missed you

You realize that T-Swizz brought up Exo in comparison to RV, right? I didn't say **** about Exo or try and take away anyone's shine in favor of them. I only said that I felt like RVs music videos are always better than their songs, to which T-Swizz felt the need to bring up Exo. But of course, I'm the one who is seen as the troublemaker. You guys have always been biased towards me. It's like I'm not allowed to defend Exo or else I'm pressed and crazy.



Btw, "pressed" is what's truly 2012.

[sunny phoenix]

here waiting for miss A to comeback.. One more week!!

[Haus-Of_Mck]

I cannot find Ice Cream Cake on Itunes or K2n

[Sept]

Originally posted by Sept

ICC's views is almost 900k now, after 15 hours

SLAY VELVET

1 mil now

Over 100k views in just 20 minutes

[Jared]

Originally posted by joshsquat

Glad you agree, sis.

Everyone in this thread is a music connoisseur, so I'd expect their opinion to always be any group they don't stan to release "trash'.

I've seen people in hear call something trash yet Stan for some of most gimmicky tacky songs I've ever heard. *cough Crayon Pop cough*.

Ironically I could technically fall into this category for someone who stans for CP but point of the post is that you just gotta let everyone have their opinions.

[Sept]

Originally posted by Regina

First of all, Exo isn't an image-based group. They don't have concepts that are aesthetically driven, like Red Velvet. Exo is a vocal and dance-based group, meaning, those two things are what's going to be highlighted. Their songs are crafted for harmonies and high notes, and their choreography is made to show off different genres that the main dancers individually excel in, such as ballet, interpretive, hip-hop, etc. Red Velvet has yet to exhibit any of these things, anywhere, because SM puts more time into their clothing and the cinematography of their videos than they do teaching the members how to dance, and sing, seeing as RV only has one main vocalist, who, objectively, isn't near being one of the best in SM.

Second of all, Exo has released four albums. You chose one song from a whole discography to somehow prove the point of, "SEEEEE, EXO has **** music too, they made Ülf! I'm so clever for posting thisS."

Sorry to break it to you, but "Wolf" was a strategic anomaly. SM will never give Exo another song that unpleasant and tacky again, because they don't need it to spark some kind of interest anymore. So you can go ahead and say that Wolf supersedes the rest of Exo's title tracks and B-sides if you want, but it won't change three obvious realities:

1. RV is basically f(x), except not as good
2. RVs singles, thus far, don't measure up to Exo's in sales, or in popularity among Kpop listeners
3. The talent in Exo is greater than the talent in RV

tl;dr You didn't prove anything by posting Wolf (a song that, actually, quite a few people here like). What I said before still stands, but allow me to rephrase it. Just because you have a cool aesthetic doesn't mean you can release lousy music, again and again.

I'm sorry but what kind of talent did they have? Betraying? Dating?

Like 3/4 out of 12 can sing, some can dance and no one is a proper rapper

[Jack!]

Originally posted by Regina

First of all, Exo isn't an image-based group. They don't have concepts that are aesthetically driven, like Red Velvet. Exo is a vocal and dance-based group

Literally stopped reading this post here. Don't even start when EXO can't even be bothered singing live on their tour.

[Jared]

Originally posted by Haus-Of_Mck

I cannot find Ice Cream Cake on Itunes or K2n

The mini doesn't come out till another 9 hours sis.

[Haus-Of_Mck]

Originally posted by Jared

The mini doesn't come out till another 9 hours sis.

Oh ok thnks!

[Yarotska]

I'mma be shakin my ass for weeks.

Relevant Velvet their impacT.

[Callum]

Originally posted by Jack!

Literally stopped reading this post here. Don't even start when EXO can't even be bothered singing live on their tour.

Does anyone bother to really read Regina's EXO posts anyway? Permanent stan goggles. Like the EXO equivalent of RGP who never seems to make any appearances in this thread whatsoever unless he's talking about 2NE1 or trying to force them into our existing conversations.

Ignore List type ****. OneHallyu might be here for it but not here.