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Celeb News: Critics slam racist casting of Scarlett Johansson in movie
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Kali.
 you totally missed what he was trying to say
The original James Bond was from the 60s. The latest film is supposed to be that same James Bond, it's not like he is a different man every time. |
but he is a different man in every reboot so why cant he embody a man of a different race ? it would represent the changing dynamics of the 21st century much more esp in the UK - even if it was just for one reboot.
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well its probably going to suck anyway, hollywood is and has always been terrible at remaking East Asian media.
edit: and don't blame the casting people or Scarlett, blame the GP (both white and black) who wouldn't see a movie with an Asian lead.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Kali.
He is played by a different actors but he is supposed to be the same guy. So the latest film is technically the same guy as from the 60s. It's kind of obvious that he was originally intended to be white.
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thats great and all but we both know that is fictional, and in the real world Hollywood can cast who ever they want in a film as long as it makes money to them - and the latest annie (who was intended to be white) was played by a black actress earned a grossing of 100mill+
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Nonchalant
well its probably going to suck anyway, hollywood is and has always been terrible at remaking East Asian media.
edit: and don't blame the casting people or Scarlett, blame the GP (both white and black) who wouldn't see a movie with an Asian lead.
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the gp is ready as evident from the backlash, more evident to blame are the hollywood executives
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They're right. Hollywood is very racist imo. It's the same ole batch of white actor/actresses that star in movies.
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Originally posted by NeverSincerely
Okay explain this to me, in what way do any of these characters look white? Especially Marge, with her bright yellow skin and blue hair, neither naturally found in any race.They don't, but when Americans watch it they don't for a second doubt they are white. It's the exact same in Japan. They do not question the race of the characters unless given a reason to.
In the Simpsons, they have to give characters cues and markers like skin color, eye-shape etc. to let the audience know they aren't white. They actually do the same thing in Anime with different markers depending on the show.
You're used to watching cartoons and defaulting the race to white no matter what the characters look like and only thinking they are of another race when given a reason to. So you impose that on anime too. They won't be Japanese to you unless they do the same thing to the characters they would in an American show to show they're Japanese.
This explains it really well actually: http://hunty.us/post/60146653075/why...elves-as-white |
Exactly
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Originally posted by Goosey
You're correct, I stopped watching cartoons when I was a small child. Back then we mostly had Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab, Tales from the Cryptkeeper, Scooby Doo, not the foreign stuff (except for The Adventures of Tintin).
But seeing as I am part of the target audience for this film, yes. The character does not appear Asian to me.
Ah, as in Tintin!
 Interesting theory but you seem to be missing the fact this is a version intended for North American audiences. It will be fully filmed in English. |
And you're still at it. I am not missing any facts. Was I talking about any live action NA GITS movie? Oh, that's right I wasn't, and neither were you. You weren't talking about any live action GITS movie, when you posted those stills from the anime version to try to prove some dumb ass point about Motoko supposedly not looking Asian, all the while trying to use that as an excuse to cast a white woman in this role. All you're doing is continuing to put your foot in your mouth. Just like damn near every anime, the original GITS and the sequel were created for the Japanese audience and later saw success overseas. So no, the version you referenced with those stills was not intended for the North American audience. It was originally created for the Japanese market.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by NeverSincerely
Okay explain this to me, in what way do any of these characters look white? Especially Marge, with her bright yellow skin and blue hair, neither naturally found in any race.They don't, but when Americans watch it they don't for a second doubt they are white. It's the exact same in Japan. They do not question the race of the characters unless given a reason to.
In the Simpsons, they have to give characters cues and markers like skin color, eye-shape etc. to let the audience know they aren't white. They actually do the same thing in Anime with different markers depending on the show.
You're used to watching cartoons and defaulting the race to white no matter what the characters look like and only thinking they are of another race when given a reason to. So you impose that on anime too. They won't be Japanese to you unless they do the same thing to the characters they would in an American show to show they're Japanese.
This explains it really well actually: http://hunty.us/post/60146653075/why...elves-as-white
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Originally posted by Cas
Yeah, this decision was dumb. But let me get this straight - y'all are up for James Bond being black, even though the character is white but when the reverse happens, y'all screaming - RACIST!
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Because this decision to make the lead character white is a racist one. However casting a black James Bond would be the opposite of racism.
If Hollywood was overrun with east Asian actors, then you'd have a point. But it's not and you don't.
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Originally posted by Pristine
There's like 2 major japanese actors in Hollywood. This is not a low budget movie, they wanted A-list. If they cast Lucy Lu the same PC bandwaggoners would say it was too obvious.
Anyway it's you people obsessing with race are the actual racist ones. Ignore the color of ones skin and cast whoever is a good actor = not racist. But then again this is ATRL where people insist they are a minority and a victim to justify why their life sucks.  |
If there are indeed two major A list Japanese actors in Hollywood, why didn't they use them instead of hiring a white woman to portray a JAPANESE CHARACTER?
Are you even thinking before you type? Because you're completely invaliding your own argument. 
(Also: Lucy Lui isn't even Japanese? What, do you think all Asians are the same? Racist.  )
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by Nonchalant
well its probably going to suck anyway, hollywood is and has always been terrible at remaking East Asian media.
edit: and don't blame the casting people or Scarlett, blame the GP (both white and black) who wouldn't see a movie with an Asian lead.
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Also: I like Scarlett, but why can't we blame her? I doubt she knew what Ghost in the Shell was, or that it has a Japanese lead at the time, but surely the backlash of whitewashing has reached her by now? Why can't we blame her for not backing out or at the very least using her much louder voice to shine light on such an important issue?
Lucy did great at the box office and she's under contract with Marvel/Disney, so she's certainly not hurting for income. She could take this hit.
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Originally posted by NeverSincerely
Okay explain this to me, in what way do any of these characters look white? Especially Marge, with her bright yellow skin and blue hair, neither naturally found in any race.They don't, but when Americans watch it they don't for a second doubt they are white. It's the exact same in Japan. They do not question the race of the characters unless given a reason to.
In the Simpsons, they have to give characters cues and markers like skin color, eye-shape etc. to let the audience know they aren't white. They actually do the same thing in Anime with different markers depending on the show.
You're used to watching cartoons and defaulting the race to white no matter what the characters look like and only thinking they are of another race when given a reason to. So you impose that on anime too. They won't be Japanese to you unless they do the same thing to the characters they would in an American show to show they're Japanese.
This explains it really well actually: http://hunty.us/post/60146653075/why...elves-as-white
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Literally was looking at an article on this the other day
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/0...lves-as-white/
But OT, Hollywood's always been racist.
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Originally posted by Nonchalant
well its probably going to suck anyway, hollywood is and has always been terrible at remaking East Asian media.
edit: and don't blame the casting people or Scarlett, blame the GP (both white and black) who wouldn't see a movie with an Asian lead.
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This too.
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Member Since: 1/19/2012
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WAIT. Yes at Scarlett bagging the role  serves her right after that Black Widow snub.
Those racist remakes need to stop. Imma watch queen scarlett shoot those enemies in skintight sexy outfit. 
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Originally posted by NeverSincerely
Okay explain this to me, in what way do any of these characters look white? Especially Marge, with her bright yellow skin and blue hair, neither naturally found in any race.They don't, but when Americans watch it they don't for a second doubt they are white. It's the exact same in Japan. They do not question the race of the characters unless given a reason to.
In the Simpsons, they have to give characters cues and markers like skin color, eye-shape etc. to let the audience know they aren't white. They actually do the same thing in Anime with different markers depending on the show.
You're used to watching cartoons and defaulting the race to white no matter what the characters look like and only thinking they are of another race when given a reason to. So you impose that on anime too. They won't be Japanese to you unless they do the same thing to the characters they would in an American show to show they're Japanese.
This explains it really well actually: http://hunty.us/post/60146653075/why...elves-as-white
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Omg, I've wondered about this for so long
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Originally posted by Goosey
"Racist"  
So let me get this straight, when they cast the white character "Rue" from The Hunger Games as a black actor, it's progressive!
But when they let a white actor play some anime character it's RACISME RACISME RACISME!
Gimme a break  |
This.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by Dingdong123
WAIT. Yes at Scarlett bagging the role serves her right after that Black Widow snub.
Those racist remakes need to stop. Imma watch queen scarlett shoot those enemies in skintight sexy outfit. |
I mean, you could just watch Lucy if you want to see her shoot minorities. 
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Originally posted by Goosey
"Racist"
So let me get this straight, when they cast the white character "Rue" from The Hunger Games as a black actor, it's progressive!
But when they let a white actor play some anime character it's RACISME RACISME RACISME!
Gimme a break |
Rue is black in the book, and Katniss sure ain't as lily white as JLaw is
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Originally posted by Pristine
Anyway it's you people obsessing with race are the actual racist ones. Ignore the color of ones skin and cast whoever is a good actor = not racist. But then again this is ATRL where people insist they are a minority and a victim to justify why their life sucks. |
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Originally posted by Pristine
exactly. the same PC morons desperate to turn anyone that isn't white/male/straight into a victim mentality. Build a bridge petals. |
That's amusing coming from the person who whines about Islam in 90% of his posts (even in random threads where it has nothing to do with topic) as if he's some victim of Islamic extremism in every day life. Get a grip. And no, acknowledging race is hardly racist. It's a clear reality. It's people like you who want to pretend that in these situations people "ignore the color of one's skin and cast whoever is a good actor" who are pushing PC nonsense out of some weird bitterness. Take your own advice and build that bridge.
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Originally posted by OnlyXtina
This.
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Rue was not white in the book like 10 other people pointed out. You always come into these type of threads singing the same song that things aren't racist, but now you're agreeing with someone who's argument was already debunked. You have no credibility. You're just desperately trying to push that idea no matter what the situation is. 
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Originally posted by BudBud
but he is a different man in every reboot so why cant he embody a man of a different race ? it would represent the changing dynamics of the 21st century much more esp in the UK - even if it was just for one reboot. |
but the movies technically are not reboots
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by NeverSincerely
You're used to watching cartoons and defaulting the race to white no matter what the characters look like and only thinking they are of another race when given a reason to. So you impose that on anime too. They won't be Japanese to you unless they do the same thing to the characters they would in an American show to show they're Japanese.
This explains it really well actually: http://hunty.us/post/60146653075/why...elves-as-white |
No offence, but I really think some white people assume Asians worship the ground they walk on
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