[Slayonce]

Originally posted by Lethal

Yas @ 3.8M. We comin for 4M by the end of this year

It's definitely over 4M by now.

[QueenBLadyG]

Originally posted by AMENHOOKER

Didn't it sell 5 million?

Of course.*

The "official" number will be hard to know. Some countries don't count digital sales only albums. When it first came out all the sales weren't reported.

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by QueenBLadyG

Of course.*

Well you need to change the title. Mediatraffic is not a source.

[QueenBLadyG]

Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé

Well you need to change the title. Mediatraffic is not a source.

I don't "need" to do anything.

I increased the figures of Mediagraffic by 100k. That's being reasonable and not trying to "push" sales that we don't "officially" have. The 5M figure includes shipments.

[NX127]

Originally posted by QueenBLadyG

Of course.*

The "official" number will be hard to know. Some countries don't count digital sales only albums. When it first came out all the sales weren't reported.

Originally posted by QueenBLadyG

I don't "need" to do anything.

I increased the figures of Mediagraffic by 100k. That's being reasonable and not trying to "push" sales that we don't "officially" have. The 5M figure includes shipments.

a realistic Hive member?

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by QueenBLadyG

I don't "need" to do anything.

I increased the figures of Mediagraffic by 100k. That's being reasonable and not trying to "push" sales that we don't "officially" have. The 5M figure includes shipments.

How do you know what includes shipments? You don't. You can't determine that using sales from a non-source site . If it is, shipments are sold.

[QueenBLadyG]

Originally posted by NX127

a realistic Hive member?

I always try to be

[QueenBLadyG]

Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé

How do you know what includes shipments? You don't. You can't determine that.

It's obvious they include shipments. And it could also include TEA + SEA as well. We don't know "officially" as I said before, and rather than counting our chickens before they hatch, I would rather have a safe estimate.

[Jet]

It's definitely not passed 4M yet.

[aaronsmithjune1]

3.8 million with mostly urban hits. Who else is doing it?

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by QueenBLadyG

It's obvious they include shipments. And it could also include TEA + SEA as well. We don't know "officially" as I said before, and rather than counting our chickens before they hatch, I would rather have a safe estimate.

It's "obvious" because you're basing it off an unofficial site.

[QueenBLadyG]

Originally posted by Lethal

It's definitely not passed 4M yet.

I mean is it that hard to understand or give the possibility a chance? I'm not being unreasonable am I?

[QueenBLadyG]

Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé

It's "obvious" because you're basing it off an unofficial site.

The 5M figure is from an unofficial site?

It came from official sources. It's obvious they included shipments in the figure. Keep up. What did you think I was refrencing?

[KORDEI]

When everyone thought 4 would stall at the 1M mark, it got to 1.4M. I feel like this will be a strong calalogue seller in the future. It'll definitely get to 4M

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by QueenBLadyG

The 5M figure is from an unofficial site?

It came from official sources. It's obvious they included shipments in the figure. Keep up. What did you think I was refrencing?

No. The 3.8 came from an unofficial site.

If the 5M came from official sources, the why are you using unofficial sources that doesn't make any sense.

[QueenBLadyG]

Originally posted by YeaBey4ever

When everyone thought 4 would stall at the 1M mark, it got to 1.4M. I feel like this will be a strong calalogue seller in the future. It'll definitely get to 4M

I think this is coming for 3x platinum within the next year! Especially with the AOTY win and a discount.

[KORDEI]

Originally posted by QueenBLadyG

I think this is coming for 3x platinum within the next year! Especially with the AOTY win and a discount.

You sound so certain especially about that discount. I'd be so surprised

[QueenBLadyG]

Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé

No. The 3.8 came from an unofficial site.

If the 5M came from official sources, the why are you using unofficial sources that doesn't make any sense.

Because the official sources are including the shipments, which they have sold to outlets but not "officially", so they aren't considered actual sales because customers haven't purchased them.

Or the figure includes shipments and a combination of TEA + SEA figures.

We don't know so I'm using the figure of sales we actually know she has sold officially. And the unofficial figure is 3.7M. I added an additional 100k to represent the possible sales that weren't counted due to the album being a digital only purchase when it was first made available.

[PULSE.]

I mean, it's hard to track worldwide sales esp with countries that don't have tracking charts. You damn sure can't trust Mediatraffic. They had Adele at 28 million. When it actually sold over 30 million copies ww.

[trainsskyscrapers]

You guys slay me! I feel that the album has hit 5Mil Plus because:

- We don't know the sales for virtually every non-white or Asian country. (Do the Caribbean, Middle East, and Africa have certification systems? Because this album is still Top 5 on the iTunes of some countries and still appearing on album charts. BEYONCE also made the top 10 best-sellers of the Middle Eastern iTunes this year as well. )
- Some countries still do not recognize ITunes, which modified debut numbers of the album as in some places the first week digital-only version was not counted even though consumers paid their 15.99.
- Some countries have no tracking chart.
- Do I trust the UK Official Charts Site over MediaTraffic, the Chart News Twitter Handle, and the IFPI? You bet I do!