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Discussion: White Girl Gets Braids, Twitter Goes Off
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She looks ghetto and uncultured.
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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They were doing a lil too much on her, honestly 
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Member Since: 2/1/2012
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Originally posted by KareBear
Wth. How exactly is a black girl supposed to wear her hair then if a natural fro is wrong? Braids everyday? Perm? Weave? Straighten it with an iron? Buzzcut? Like..................... 
As if little white girls with big curly hair get told to change it. |
Have you never seen The Princess Diaries? Anne Hathaway's character didn't become "beautiful" until she straightened her hair. But that's beside the point. That's how it is in most movies where there is a makeover. They come in with curly hair and glasses, straighten their hair and take their glasses off, they're a bombshell.
As a black male with a lot of hair, I can say first-hand that all of the negative commentary about my hair came from my family and my black classmates. I can't think of a single white person in my life that ever had anything bad to say about my hair. My mother told me last month that I looked homeless because I didn't pick spend 3 hours picking out my hair before work. Last week, I literally JUST woke up, left my room, and said hi to my mother. She didn't say hi, all she said was "when are you going to cut your hair?"
Maybe I'm lucky to be taught by, live around, and work with the nicest white people ever, but I've only ever heard compliments about my hair from white people, if they said anything at all. A girl at my job wears her hair natural and no one's ever said anything negative to her. Guess we're just lucky to live in central Maryland.
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
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Originally posted by B'Day
No, if you don't like the rules, you protest for a change and let your voice be heard. If you go to a private school and you're paying thousands of pounds (or dollars, euros etc) a year, you have a right to speak up. Make sure you're getting your money's worth. If you don't like the rules and 'go somewhere else' how do you expect change in this world? Do you know how the world would be if certain individuals such as Martin Luther King was told to 'suck it up'?
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Youre comparing the right to wear a hairstyle to not having rights at all. That is beyond stupid and is in no way related.
This is why people dont take you seriously.
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Member Since: 4/6/2014
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Originally posted by Newt
Death, I clearly addressed HIM and you came out the woodwork to quote ME first; I never called for you  Bless you |
Sis, you need your eyes checked because you quoted me first.
You need to stop acting messy.
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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Originally posted by Flare
THANK YOU. 
It's a complex topic. It's not just "hair". If you don't understand that, you really shouldn't comment on these types of topics. It's so much deeper and so much more ingrained. Generations of issues only being barely touched on the surface in threads like this. It's not simple cut and dry. I do think though the girl is young and shouldn't have to put up with all that hate. That's the only injustice of this whole situation. |
By your logic we should continue to make people feel ashamed and continue with the stigma associated with this kind of actions? Because supporting people is not a good idea to overcome racial tension, cultural appropriation claims and so on?
It's 2015. When can a person change their hair without being called insensitive and racist? How many years do we have to wait? Supporting people on their decision to embrace other cultures with dignity and respect is the ONLY answer to stop these kind of situations.
People NEED to move on tbqh
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
I never said that.
Again, there are other schools out there.
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Doesn't matter how many "other schools" are out there, you don't tell someone how to be who they are naturally.
If everyone followed your philosophy, we'd still be segregated like in the 50s. "Why are these colored people trying to apply to an all white school, there are other schools out there" like no
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Cultural appropriation is a ridiculous term and we should be welcoming the idea of incorporating each other's cultures into our lives. The whole idea that certain creative ideas and visuals belong only to one group fosters a racist attitude in society (I am not blaming racism on it, but it helps to create a divide) - especially in countries like America, where the SUPPOSED idea is that people are supposed to be living together in a "melting pot" society.
It's one thing to ridicule someone's culture and make a mockery of it; but people who wear bindis and braid their hair are NOT harmful to other cultures and do NOT take away from whatever meaning they hold. It just means others who may not necessarily have ties to where these things came from have seen the beauty in them.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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It's not a big deal, let her wear the braids
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Member Since: 2/1/2012
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Originally posted by Kyle.
so youre okay with somebody (probably a white man) forcing children to cut their afros because it's distracting and 'ghetto'?
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Actually, in one of those stories, I researched and found that basically the entire front office staff (principal, vice principal, etc) was black.
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Member Since: 10/19/2011
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braids are a protection style. some people just put weave in it because they're insecure for the wrong reasons. another group just want to try a new style. and.. others don't. if you decide to go natural and just take care of your hair so it looks healthy (like everyone does) or put a headband on you should be able to get any job. maybe it didn't use to be that way but it has gotten a lot better.
if people didn't take things from other cultures sometimes we'd be stuck and truly live as separate "races". the ideal world would be if we'd all mix it up and share our cultures, share our heritage.
people are faking their sensitivity about this to feel important on the web. they feel a sense of entitlement because they learned a few new words on twitter.
who cares if the girl decides to get braids? it's her life. youtube is full of them. cultural appropriation doesn't really exist in that way. if you have to attack a young girl for wearing braids and insult and bully her, something is wrong with you.
and btw: anne in the princess diaries didn't have an afro. she had big curly hair. but that was in no way an afro or "bad hair". please.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by Yarotska
Have you never seen The Princess Diaries? Anne Hathaway's character didn't become "beautiful" until she straightened her hair. But that's beside the point.
As a black male with a lot of hair, I can say first-hand that all of the negative commentary about my hair came from my family and my black classmates. I can't think of a single white person in my life that ever had anything bad to say about my hair. My mother told me last month that I looked homeless because I didn't pick spend 3 hours picking out my hair before work. Last week, I literally JUST woke up, left my room, and said hi to my mother. She didn't say hi, all she said was "when are you going to cut your hair?"
Maybe I'm lucky to be taught by, live around, and work with the nicest white people ever, but I've only ever heard compliments about my hair from white people, if they said anything at all. A girl at my job wears her hair natural and no one's ever said anything negative to her. Guess we're just lucky to live in central Maryland.
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Not being considered beautiful is most definitely not the same as facing expulsion or suspension because of your natural hair. What even. Its one thing if its messy, its another to ban hair that's natural. 
I know the stigma that comes with curly hair same as kinky(black) hair. And I absolutely think the black community can be the harshest when it comes to natural hair. I recently went natural myself and I only feel insecure about it from other black people who tell me it doesn't look professional or to perm it. White people love that sh*t and wont stop touching me 
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by BabyCantYouSee
"it's not just hair" but that's the way it SHOULD be. That's what many of us are trying to uphold.
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AND THAT'S great. We all want world peace and happy lives for everyone but the world will never be that way. Everyone has differences and those will always exist no matter how much you mix. Those differences will always be exploited to bring someone else up or down. It's the nature of the world we live in.
Until that imaginary day where it's just hair, how about embracing everyone's differences and understand why things the way they are now instead of acting like the past never happened and it's still not in play today?
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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I bet at least one of y'all who are defending this girl dragged Katy when she used braids in the TIHWD video
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Member Since: 12/9/2009
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Originally posted by jonasha
Sis, you need your eyes checked because you quoted me first.
You need to stop acting messy.
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Post #172 - Newt Quotes Regina
Post#178- You quote post #172
Did you just have a stroke or something sis, kii
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
Youre comparing the right to wear a hairstyle to not having rights at all. That is beyond stupid and is in no way related.
This is why people dont take you seriously.
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Nobody claimed the two topics are related (your words, not mine) but they're both in the context of basic ****ing human rights. It's an example.
And ddd not ATRL member Big Smoke telling me 'people don't take you seriously' when you literally just basically told people to not go to school in a topic about braids/cultural appropriation.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by OhRly?
By your logic we should continue to make people feel ashamed and continue with the stigma associated with this kind of actions? Because supporting people is not a good idea to overcome racial tension, cultural appropriation claims and so on?
It's 2015. When can a person change their hair without being called insensitive and racist? How many years do we have to wait? Supporting people on their decision to embrace other cultures with dignity and respect is the ONLY answer to stop these kind of situations.
People NEED to move on tbqh
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I feel like you're directing your anger from another poster or post at me. I didn't say any of those things you stated above in this thread. I (about 2 times now) said those people were wrong for insulting her and (like 4 times now) said the girl shouldn't have been attacked.
Please exit. 
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Member Since: 2/1/2012
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Originally posted by KareBear
Not being considered beautiful is most definitely not the same as facing expulsion or suspension because of your natural hair. What even. Its one thing if its messy, its another to ban hair that's natural. : |
I was kind of only going off the last sentence of your post. Maybe I should have quoted just that part. But like I said, one of those schools was run by black people.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Jessie Mulay
I bet at least one of y'all who are defending this girl dragged Katy when she used braids in the TIHWD video
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And I do see some hypocrites of that variety in here. Also, I'm seeing some people who insulted the girl but defended Katy before as well. They need to make up their mind. 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by jonasha
What kind of logic?
A "would you critique a song if you're not a singer" tea. |
When you have non-african american people making claims like "I've never heard braids being called ghetto/trashy", then yeah, it needs to be said that your anecdotal experience as a non-african american person is essentially worthless to the discussion. Just like I, a latino/black person am free to comment on whatever struggles asians go through, while at the same time understanding that my opinion is worthless when compared to actual asian experiences.
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Originally posted by Kyle.
so since i'm white, i can't point out when something is racist?...lol..
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Sure you can.
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Originally posted by Eternium
1. They're usually called "white trash." It is a racial problem, though, that black hairstyles on a person are associated with lower class stereotypes.
2.Wouldn't this be breaking that taboo? If black hair becomes more popular and the majority start wearing it, don't you think it will come to be accepted?
3. You're talking about acrylic nails and those are from China (hence the stereotype). The black stereotype in the 90s was oversized acrylic nails (see: Friday). |
This is kinda the problem. What does this say that it would take a white person, yet again, "borrowing" from black people in order to make something "accepted"
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