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Discussion: Should Math be a Requirement?
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Ive realized most of the people saying math is useless are the kids who are still in high school and haven't experienced real life yet. Good luck getting a high paying job with middle school math skills. There is really not any place you'll be successful at with those level of skills. Can't enter the medical field, obviously can't enter the math field/banking/financing/economics/engineering fields. It's like y'all don't want to have successful careers.
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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Originally posted by Element
They definitely do! They are very abstract, but it was really interesting to see the different concepts and tricks to solve them, as well as the relationship of numbers and equations.
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What I liked the most about it when you have to find the derivative and use it in relation of a number already here to then integrate.
Definitely one of the most challenging courses this year.
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Member Since: 9/4/2011
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Originally posted by BudBud
omg those statistics sis  where are you getting that info from ? and if they do forget it it would sound like more of the education provider's fault for not properly reinforcing math in the correct way.
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It doesn't matter if you got every question right on your calculus final, if you don't apply it in real life, WHICH YOU WON'T if you don't have a career in math, you WILL forget it.
If you learn a language but don't use it, YOU WILL FORGET IT
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by iHype.
So, that means Math requirements need to be changed if such a staggering amount of the education providers aren't enforcing it right. |
again i need some of your stats before i can make a more articulate argument
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Yes it should be. Next question.
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by iHype.
So, that means Math requirements need to be changed if such a staggering amount of the education providers aren't enforcing it right. |
Changed, not eliminated. Math is taught in a ****** way, yes. But quite a lot of modern education is **** in many places.
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Member Since: 8/29/2012
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Originally posted by Georges
What I liked the most about it when you have to find the derivative and use it in relation of a number already here to then integrate.
Definitely one of the most challenging courses this year.
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Take multivariable calc down the road. You'll get a kii rereading this thread.
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Originally posted by MiMiLamb
It doesn't matter if you got every question right on your calculus final, if you don't apply it in real life, WHICH YOU WON'T if you don't have a career in math, you WILL forget it.
If you learn a language but don't use it, YOU WILL FORGET IT
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fpsd; these girls can't realize no matter HOW MUCH it's enforced we're still gonna forget it because it's useless.
There's no point in trying to enforce something so bad we're gonna forget. I would make an example with a Pop Girl's discography, but lemme not get the WP.
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by Lethal
Ive realized most of the people saying math is useless are the kids who are still in high school and haven't experienced real life yet. Good luck getting a high paying job with middle school math skills. There is really not any place you'll be successful at with those level of skills. Can't enter the medical field, obviously can't enter the math field, can't enter the banking/financing/economics fields. It's like y'all don't want to have successful careers.
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And I mean, business in general almost always requires "business calculus" at minimum, which is an entire course that details what Calc you need to know practically in business.
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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I feel like some of the posters are just lazy and don't want to do math homework/homework in general, and they are trying to find excuses for laziness
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by Lethal
Ive realized most of the people saying math is useless are the kids who are still in high school and haven't experienced real life yet. Good luck getting a high paying job with middle school math skills. There is really not any place you'll be successful at with those level of skills. Can't enter the medical field, obviously can't enter the math field, can't enter the banking/financing/economics fields. It's like y'all don't want to have successful careers.
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You sound kind of obnoxious right now like who cares if someone doesn't want to focus on the 100k careers???
What if they just want to be a primary special Ed teacher
Or a singer?
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Member Since: 9/4/2011
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Originally posted by Element
I personally found that my education featured a well-balanced mixture of all disciplines. I don't remember any subject being taught more heavily throughout middle school or high school.
But I could understand why they might be focused on presenting STEM so heavily; they need more people to embrace and join those fields.
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And even with all this exposure to STEM, still no one cares.
It's like tryna make a gay boy straight by exposing him to a lot of *****.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Arioso
And I mean, business in general almost always requires "business calculus" at minimum, which is an entire course that details what Calc you need to know practically in business.
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My school requires that class as a minimum, but that unfortunately does not mean that the students will retain the information. 
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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Originally posted by SupahBass05
Take multivariable calc down the road. You'll get a kii rereading this thread.
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Oh, maths is not optional, I choose to do Scientific 11th grade so we take the hardest Maths, Physics and Chemistry.
And if you mean this then I take it and it's a trip 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by MiMiLamb
It doesn't matter if you got every question right on your calculus final, if you don't apply it in real life, WHICH YOU WON'T if you don't have a career in math, you WILL forget it.
If you learn a language but don't use it, YOU WILL FORGET IT
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first things first is i stressed the essential skills you get from maths (such as problem solving) . like of course knowledge has to be reinforced and practiced but life skills are more ingrained into your brain, so using your example you may forget some of the language but it would be harder to forget the pronunciation techniques the language taught you (such as the way the tongue rolls etc - esp true for tonal languages).
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by iHype.
fpsd; these girls can't realize no matter HOW MUCH it's enforced we're still gonna forget it because it's useless.
There's no point in trying to enforce something so bad we're gonna forget. I would make an example with a Pop Girl's discography, but lemme not get the WP.
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Originally posted by MiMiLamb
It doesn't matter if you got every question right on your calculus final, if you don't apply it in real life, WHICH YOU WON'T if you don't have a career in math, you WILL forget it.
If you learn a language but don't use it, YOU WILL FORGET IT
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I'm saying tho! But as usual some of these pretentious members (not Retro or Element)
Are attempting to tell us how to live life based off of their own personal experiences.
Congrats that you use geometry or calculus everyday. The truth will remain that you don't NEED it ,unless you're perusing a career that involves it. They seem not to get it, though.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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like is math so hard that some of yall want it removed ?
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All science majors require very high levels of math.
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Originally posted by Arioso
I had Actuarial Science and basically said "SCREW THIS" and dropped Calc 2 before figuring out what my new major would be. 
Then I decided on Data Analytics and figured out the bad news myself that I'd have to not only take Calc 2, but potentially Calc 3 (which I don't mind, if it's supposed to be easier - I'll probably be more interested in it anyway) if my school doesn't fix the pre-reqs for one of my classes.  |
I have heard that Actuarial Science is one of the most difficult majors! It sounds interesting though. I am an Accounting major as of right now, but I am currently feeling a pull towards Business Economics instead. And yes, I have heard Calculus 3 is not as difficult as Calculus 2. I almost took Calc 3, but it wouldn't fit into my schedule... maybe one day!
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Originally posted by Georges
What I liked the most about it when you have to find the derivative and use it in relation of a number already here to then integrate.
Definitely one of the most challenging courses this year.
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Yes, it was really exciting and eye-opening to see how the relationships between all of the derivatives and integrals. When I took Calc 1, I understood math on a new level, and totally appreciated it more because I could see how it all connected so seamlessly.
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Originally posted by MiMiLamb
And even with all this exposure to STEM, still no one cares.
It's like tryna make a gay boy straight by exposing him to a lot of *****.
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They will continue emphasizing STEM, I am sure.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan
I'm saying tho! But as usual some of these pretentious members (not Retro or Element)
Are attempting to tell us how to live life based off of their own personal experiences.
Congrats that you use geometry or calculus everyday. The truth will remain that you don't NEED it ,unless you're perusing a career that involves it. They seem not to get it, though.
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This must be like what gays experience when straights try to tell them what to like
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