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Discussion: Ask ATRL: Homophobic Family?
Member Since: 10/5/2009
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Originally posted by Citrus
The only made up thing in this thread is your vagina
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yasssssssss  I liveee
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Member Since: 1/25/2012
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Yes unless you wanna be a bum for the rest if your life. |
This is totally not true. A lot of young adults and teenagers have this kind of mind set, but some of the richest people ever had no post-secondary education.
You can still be filthy rich if you're creative, determined and hard working. But like I said, if you don't know the right people, then college should definitely be a choice to expand your network and increase your knowledge in whatever you want to master in.
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Also, some jobs require taking college.
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Member Since: 1/25/2012
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Like, my brother's supervisor is making over 500k a year with a bachelor's in music.  It just proves that anything is possible if you're hard working, at the right place at the right time, and meet the right people that will bring you far in life.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Well, duh, of course it's worth it.
It's not a guarantee to success or anything but I mean, unless you're content working blue-collar jobs all your life, then...
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ATRL Contributor
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College, or University for the UK, is only really worth it if you are career determined. I would also recommend it to anyone who wants to expand their social network. I have never been, so I can offer any personal experiences.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I'm glad some people came in here with more mixed answers for this one. I think we Americans put a lot more focus on college than is entirely necessary.
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Member Since: 5/14/2011
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Depends on your major. For the most part, it's better than alternatives like no college at all.
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Member Since: 3/20/2011
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I honestly think I'm wasting my time and money on it.
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Member Since: 9/12/2012
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It depends on your desired profession and your particular skill-set. Obviously if you're going to work in any sort of medical, science, or math-based field, you'd want college experience. However, if your particular goal is more of a creative or talent based profession, then college wouldn't be much of use.
Not exactly on topic, but college is stupidly overpriced in the States, especially for something the school system conditions you for 12 years to believe is needed to have any hope for even a half-way successful future.
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
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Originally posted by Latch
Idk
I'm in college and I feel like I'm just wasting my time, honestly.
I'm devoting time and money that I don't have just to come out and get paid dog piss for a living when it's over.
I don't like when people act like academia is some automatic ticket to a life of fulfillment,
or worse when people bash others for not going to college.
Everyone doesn't have the means or the money to go to school, and the reality is that unless you plan on studying under a STEM major, then you can pretty much kiss the idea of a high paying job goodbye.
It can certainly help you improve your skills depending on where you go and what you study, but you also have to factor in whether or not you'll get accepted to that school and if you'll actually be able to afford it.
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I would say that whether or not college is or isn't necessary would be based on what you aspire to be because that fairy tale of just going to a university for 4 years and coming out "not broke," is rarely the case for most.
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I sometimes regret going to school. But I got accepted to my ~dream school~ and it's what was expected of me, so here I am...
Also can people in this thread stop acting like having a college education is the only or best way to make a good living  Though I guess most ATRL gays can't even consider the horrors of manual labor/blue collar jobs.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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college isnt everything , i know lots of people who have made it w/o a degree (also people who have made it with a degree). at the end of the day its about how you use that degree anyways . to answer your question what you could do is talk to the college career adviser who would know more about this then typical atrlers , or study college part time (like i am currently) .
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The only made up thing in this thread is your vagina
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ddd; shut her down
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Member Since: 8/29/2012
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Only if you don't waste years on a useless degree tbh, as harsh as that sounds.
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Member Since: 2/13/2012
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It really depends.
If you want to learn to do something specifically and you need college for it, obviously yes. If you want the college experience which can be extremely rewarding and helpful in your life in general, then yes.
If you're happy working for money in ways that don't require college, then yes.
It boils down to what you want to do and whether or not you're willing to spend money in certain places 
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Member Since: 10/30/2010
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For me, it was.
But it's not for everyone. I literally didn't learn anything in undergrad, lol. It was all just partying and then cramming the night before exams, memorizing the material needed to do well on the exams. Unless you have a goal in mind (like being a doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc - careers that require post-secondary education), the value of a bachelors degree isn't much. Networking and knowing people is much more valuable.
I don't know you at all, but I don't see how someone could be happy moving up to a managers position at a retail store. lol. Pardon the judgement, but that'll be a really embarrassing job when you're 30 years old. You're in high school & you really don't know much yet, so it'd probably be in your best interest to go to college. It's only 4 years and at the least it'll open your mind and change you as a person through the social experiences.
Just don't go to a fancy private school. Go to a state school where the tuition is relatively cheap. I don't know what people are thinking going into 50-100k in debt from undergrad. Setting up for a life of financial failure unless you're planning on being a surgeon.
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Since 2011 I've been part-time studying with the Open University, for those who are unfamiliar with the Open University (often shortened to OU), it is basically where you complete your degree by home studying. It's beneficial if you wish to work alongside studying, and you only really have to attend tutorials which are optional and exams, which of course is compulsory.
Like I said, I have been doing this for nearly four years now and I finish in possibly 2017. It is pretty scary when you take into consideration the length of time to obtain this degree, however it is more laid back. It is very beneficial for social introverts like myself and those who want to commit to something more practical and earn money in a normal job.
Unfortunately, for me, I believe the degree I am currently doing will not hold any value once completed. And in 2017 I will be 25 so University will be much more intimidating for me than it was when I was 18. So like people have said already, you need to do your homework and research the degree beforehand. I would also looks at job requirements and identify what they want from you. Of course, however, as time progresses things will change and you might find yourself back at square one again. It's a very tricky decision but some time you just got to go with your gut feeling.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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There seems to be a wider amount of discussion on this topic, so I'm gonna leave it open for a few more hours before I put up the new question.
Speaking of which, try to keep the questions PG-13.
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Member Since: 1/22/2007
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If you like what you're currently doing and the $ is decent then no need to go to college. If later on in life you decide you want to pursue something else that requires a degree then you can enroll. A degree or some sort of certification is a must if you are looking for a more specialized job. I think the smartest thing is to go to college when you are really set on what you would like to do for a career. But then again, some places will hire you as long as you have a degree regardless of you major (my case  )
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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I'm in uni rn (Law School) and I love it
Bout to make a **** load of money in the future
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Yes. College can help you gain contacts that can lead to future jobs.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I feel like college not only helps you grow academically, but in your personal life.
A vast majority of the people I know who did not attend college are the same person they were in high school, and to the point that it's a fault. They did not ever really challenge themselves to see if there's something more in life (which there is!)
You make a lot more lifetime friends in college as well.
College doesn't necessarily make you more financially successful, but it gives you more discipline, motivation, and well-roundedness which allows you to flourish no matter what.
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