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Discussion: #BlackDon'tCrack (Unless it's Chapped)
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Originally posted by Maiko
This is my thought.
But for me it comes down to this. If someone does something horrible to me, I'm not going to think about the "conviction rate of the crime" or how ashamed I feel when deciding whether or not I should go to the authorities, I'm going to seek punishment at all costs, especially a sexual crime. Perhaps I'm thinking too logically, and with my dick, but that's just me.
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Well you're a man. And you're gay so it's not like it's going to hurt you. Society wont be thinking any less of you.
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Originally posted by MM3
1) One of the victims said he raped her long before this huge scandal + she tried to put it in her biography but it was confirmed that the publisher wouldn't let her. Some of the women are already successful and well-known.
2) Rapists love to choose victims who they have power over and can belittle, which would explain why he didn't (mostly) go after powerful women in the industry.
3) it boggles my mind how people defend Cosby with a) statute of limitations and b) all of the cases not being legit. But no one actually mentions whether or not he raped someone  You might be right Big S, but if even half of the claims are legit that's a problem. Even if he only raped one woman, that's a problem. And it's a disgusting act regardless of the time period it took place. |
1) Janice Dickinson could get the **** on outta here. I definitely don't believe her
2) Rapists also choose a pattern. They dont stop, resume, stop, when theyre hot, resume, then stop for 20 years. And I've never heard of victims hopping on a plane to go **** their rapist, repeatedly, and let them pay for their college tuition either.
3) Then wy have statute of limitations then? There's no evidence linking him to a crime, and its 20-30 years later. Seems fair to me. If he raped one person then yeah he sould get the hammer, but absolutely none of these women have any sort of evidence, I mean they remember so vivdly except where they actually got drugged. I'm sorry I honestly think cosby is being railroaded for some reason, and it's disgusting how somebody can lose everything with no evidence, just a broad's word. It's getting harder to be a straight man withese types of things (Yeah I said it lol)
And that 2 percent stat has been disproven time and time again.
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Rape victims don't get taken serious because every crime is innocent until proven guilty.
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As it should. Rape shield laws already protect accusers from identification. The burden of proof should be on them
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Originally posted by Javan
Well you're a man. And you're gay so it's not like it's going to hurt you. Society wont be thinking any less of you.
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I wouldn't face embarassment if I was sexually abused or raped by man, because I am a man?
I would be embarrassed if I was say, a high profile footballer that came out about being raped by a man or
something, surely. I would think society would think similarly of me in this case, to that of a woman being raped, no?
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
1) Janice Dickinson could get the **** on outta here. I definitely don't believe her
2) Rapists also choose a pattern. They dont stop, resume, stop, when theyre hot, resume, then stop for 20 years. And I've never heard of victims hopping on a plane to go **** their rapist, repeatedly, and let them pay for their college tuition either.
3) Then wy have statute of limitations then? There's no evidence linking him to a crime, and its 20-30 years later. Seems fair to me. If he raped one person then yeah he sould get the hammer, but absolutely none of these women have any sort of evidence, I mean they remember so vivdly except where they actually got drugged. I'm sorry I honestly think cosby is being railroaded for some reason, and it's disgusting how somebody can lose everything with no evidence, just a broad's word. It's getting harder to be a straight man withese types of things (Yeah I said it lol)
And that 2 percent stat has been disproven time and time again.
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Smoke, jesus. 
my wig.
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Originally posted by Javan
Well you're a man. And you're gay so it's not like it's going to hurt you. Society wont be thinking any less of you.
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Hold up.
I'm gay so it's not like being raped is going to hurt me?
What are you saying here?
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Originally posted by Maiko
This is my thought.
But for me it comes down to this. If someone does something horrible to me, I'm not going to think about the "conviction rate of the crime" or how ashamed I feel when deciding whether or not I should go to the authorities, I'm going to seek punishment at all costs, especially a sexual crime. Perhaps I'm thinking too logically, and with my dick, but that's just me.
Although I wish a old wrinkled ***** would.
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But the issue is you're making all these assumptions about IF you were a victim. The reality is, that you aren't and you aren't able to grasp the severity of the situation.
It reminds me of that user that posted in the Sony Email Leak thread. "It's not racist that you assume black people are interested in slavery. We don't have black people where I'm from but IF I were a black person, I would naturally be interested in slavery and black things". or something like that RACISME RACISME RACISME ddd
You're basically doing the same thing
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But on to lighter things...
Just had my last exam.
the lecturer didnt teach anything all semester so he just said **** it and made the exam open book 
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Originally posted by Newt
But the issue is you're making all these assumptions about IF you were a victim. The reality is, that you aren't and you aren't able to grasp the severity of the situation.
It reminds me of that user that posted in the Sony Email Leak thread. "It's not racist that you assume black people are interested in slavery. We don't have black people where I'm from but IF I were a black person, I would naturally be interested in slavery and black things". or something like that RACISME RACISME RACISME ddd
You're basically doing the same thing
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That would be me saying "It is not rape because Bill Cosby..." but I never said anything like that nor have I supported the accused or sought to qualm the crime.
I have legitimate questions about the system and also the mindset and motives of the accusers. Coming out with an accusation 40 years later is a red flag in any criminal system, all I'm doing is discussing an issue.
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Originally posted by Maiko
I wouldn't face embarassment if I was sexually abused or raped by man, because I am a man?
I would be embarrassed if I was say, a high profile footballer that came out about being raped by a man or
something, surely. I would think society would think similarly of me in this case, to that of a woman being raped, no?
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Oh no. That's not what I meant. Actually as a man I would imagine that ones pride would be even more shattered than a woman, as women bear a level of sexual harassment on regular basis. They may be slightly desensitized. But society has more positive attitudes towards men regarding sex in general.
And by the gay part, I mean if your out. I doubt being a victim of rape, regardless of whether the offender faces charges, I doubt you would be any more shunned than you are. What else do you have to lose? Whereas female rape victims often flee from their communities because once it's out they have to carry the baggage.
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Men face even more embarrassment if raped (it happens much less tho). Girl What? However usually people will try to imply the man is less then a man if raped but people that ignorant would say the same about gays regardless.
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
1) Janice Dickinson could get the **** on outta here. I definitely don't believe her
2) Rapists also choose a pattern. They dont stop, resume, stop, when theyre hot, resume, then stop for 20 years. And I've never heard of victims hopping on a plane to go **** their rapist, repeatedly, and let them pay for their college tuition either.
3) Then wy have statute of limitations then? There's no evidence linking him to a crime, and its 20-30 years later. Seems fair to me. If he raped one person then yeah he sould get the hammer, but absolutely none of these women have any sort of evidence, I mean they remember so vivdly except where they actually got drugged. I'm sorry I honestly think cosby is being railroaded for some reason, and it's disgusting how somebody can lose everything with no evidence, just a broad's word. It's getting harder to be a straight man withese types of things (Yeah I said it lol)
And that 2 percent stat has been disproven time and time again.
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1) That's cool if you don't believe Janice (even though she clearly revealed hers over a decade ago) but Beverly Johnson is an icon and has zero reason to lie. She certainly wouldn't want to overshadow her career with these allegations if they weren't true.
2) Who says Bill stopped for 20 years? There might be women who haven't even stepped forward yet who raped during that time. One of the women (a playboy bunny) says she has 12 other "bunny" names who PM'd her saying "he got me too" but they don't want to reveal their identities right now. Besides, you can't eliminate all allegations just b/c there's a time gap in between cases.
3) what are you talking about? I heard the accounts of ten of the women and they ALL remember where they were drugged, they just don't remember what happened after. One woman remembers waking up in a hotel, another in the back of a car, etc. and you can talk about them having no evidence all you want but they obviously have enough to make Bill SHAKE in his boots, which is why statute of limitations is the only defense his people are bringing forward right now. Poor Bill losing his precious (nearly over) career while those women have to live with being raped and tossed aside like a piece of meat. Lucky women! Feel so sorry for straight men, they totally get the short end of the stick in life!
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by Maiko
Hold up.
I'm gay so it's not like being raped is going to hurt me?
What are you saying here?
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dddd. I may have worded that wrong 
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Quote:
Originally posted by Maiko
I wouldn't face embarassment if I was sexually abused or raped by man, because I am a man?
I would be embarrassed if I was say, a high profile footballer that came out about being raped by a man or
something, surely. I would think society would think similarly of me in this case, to that of a woman being raped, no?
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No one would say you basically brought it upon yourself by drinking too much, being out too late, and/or dressing a certain way, that's for sure. But that's besides the point. Men get raped in such low rates compared to women that it's not something we even have to think about.
Sexual assault and rape in particular aren't like other crimes. It's a piece of your psyche that is snatched from you, and that is a pain that none of us who haven't experienced it can even begin to grasp. It's traumatic in every sense of the word. Many can't even reveal the experience to their parents, siblings, close friends, or pastors, let alone sitting down to talk to policemen. People spiral into depression over this stuff, and for some, the story ends with suicide attempts—it's that serious. It takes time to come to grips with the horrific situation that occurred, and I do not fault anyone for taking the time that the need. I fault society for fostering the association of shame with this crime, an association that stemmed directly from sexism & misogyny.
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Can we talk about how Sinister goes to the same college as Bill did?
pathetic.
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Originally posted by Javan
Oh no. That's not what I meant. Actually as a man I would imagine that ones pride would be even more shattered than a woman, as women bear a level of sexual harassment on regular basis. They may be slightly desensitized. But society has more positive attitudes towards men regarding sex in general.
And by the gay part, I mean if your out. I doubt being a victim of rape, regardless of whether the offender faces charges, I doubt you would be any more shunned than you are. What else do you have to lose? Whereas female rape victims often flee from their communities because once it's out they have to carry the baggage.
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I'm very out, but being raped and getting my "ass taken" unwillingly would definitely hurt and be embarrassing to reveal, but if it happened I would still not let someone get away with it.
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Originally posted by Doc
Sexual assault and rape in particular aren't like other crimes. It's a piece of your psyche that is snatched from you, and that is a pain that none of us who haven't experienced it can even begin to grasp. It's traumatic in every sense of the word. Many can't even reveal the experience to their parents, siblings, close friends, or pastors, let alone sitting down to talk to policemen. People spiral into depression over this stuff, and for some, the story ends with suicide attempts—it's that serious. It takes time to come to grips with the horrific situation that occurred, and I do not fault anyone for taking the time that the need. I fault society for fostering the association of shame with this crime, an association that stems directly from sexism.
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I don't doubt the psychological aspect of it all. I can only speak from experience. I haven't witnessed the "fleeing from their communities" part in modern America, but I do know how living with a sexual crime effects the victim. Luckily in my experience with it the victims, in all cases, were never afraid to speak up.
But I get it.
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He did it. Just look at him. Why would anyone consensually touch this?
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Originally posted by MM3
1) That's cool if you don't believe Janice (even though she clearly revealed hers over a decade ago) but Beverly Johnson is an icon and has zero reason to lie. She certainly wouldn't want to overshadow her career with these allegations if they weren't true.
2) Who says Bill stopped for 20 years? There might be women who haven't even stepped forward yet who raped during that time. One of the women (a playboy bunny) says she has 12 other "bunny" names who PM'd her saying "he got me too" but they don't want to reveal their identities right now. Besides, you can't eliminate all allegations just b/c there's a time gap in between cases.
3) what are you talking about? I heard the accounts of ten of the women and they ALL remember where they were drugged, they just don't remember what happened after. One woman remembers waking up in a hotel, another in the back of a car, etc. and you can talk about them having no evidence all you want but they obviously have enough to make Bill SHAKE in his boots, which is why statute of limitations is the only defense his people are bringing forward right now. Poor Bill losing his precious (nearly over) [B]career while those women have to live with being raped and tossed aside like a piece of meat. Lucky women! [/B]Feel so sorry for straight men, they totally get the short end of the stick in life! |
They dont have anything! again, hearsay isnt evidence.
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Originally posted by Doc
No one would say you basically brought it upon yourself by drinking too much, being out too late, and/or dressing a certain way, that's for sure. But that's besides the point. Men get raped in such low rates compared to women that it's not something we even have to think about.
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Jesus Christ.
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