[PULSE.]

Beyonce ALWAYS rank higher on any greatest female artist in music list than ALL her peers Give it a rest. It's truly sad now

[Jet]

I swear, the people who constantly try to discredit Beyonce for every little thing are seriously as stupid as they come. Saying that people outside of the US don't know Beyonce is a singer is the same as saying Nobody in Europe knows Nicki Minaj raps. Like, that doesn't even make sense.

Beyonce has had 4 sold out world tours, 6 if you count DC. Her last album is currently the most critically praised pop album in several years. Shes the most awarded female in history and is the most grammy nominated female ever and is one of the most successful artists of all time. Her music career totally eclipses her celebrity status. You must be a moron if you think the world cares more about some fake rumor than her music. Cut it out, it isn't cute anymore.

[King Maxx]

Black artists (especially the females) don't get the respect for their music like they truly deserve. Beyoncé, Nicki, and Rihanna are the biggest in their fields. They are the most talked about, yet their sales don't add up to everyone else.

But that's another story for another day.

[Vulps]

People care more about ha bangs than ha bops.

Though I've never heard anyone shade her for it.

[HumanitySector]

Originally posted by idkher

Her celebrity status and commercial success aren't proportionate. You would think someone who has built up such a larger-than-life celebrity persona over the past 15 years would have a bit more music success to her name. Beyonce SEEMS like one of the biggest artists of all time... but when you look at the stats..

+8

Exactly.

Originally posted by King Maxx

Black artists (especially the females) don't get the respect for their music like they truly deserve. Beyoncé, Nicki, and Rihanna are the biggest in their fields. They are the most talked about, yet their sales don't add up to everyone else.

But that's another story for another day.

Except Rihanna is the best digital selling artist in history and is currently 5th best selling female artist of all time, and the best selling artist this millenium (maybe except Britney Spears, but I doubt it)

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by King Maxx

Black artists (especially the females) don't get the respect for their music like they truly deserve. Beyoncé, Nicki, and Rihanna are the biggest in their fields. They are the most talked about, yet their sales don't add up to everyone else.

But that's another story for another day.

I was waiting for someone to make this post, but Rihanna's music far overshadows her celebrity. Unlike Beyonce, she actually has a universally known catalog. I mean I dislike the girl, but facts are facts.

Nicki is a female rapper therefore her appeal is limited. It's understandable. She still did more than great for her standards.

Whitney Houston for example has 2 songs that are more relevant nowadays than any songs by white divas like Madonna, Mariah or Barbara Streisand. The race card has to stop.

[PULSE.]

Hasn't Beyonce's Ms. Cater Show tour OUT-GROSSED all her peers tours? I believe it has

It's funny because this is the reason atrl tries to shade Pink, she's not "celebrity" enough.

It must suck to hate someone that everyone loves, including your FAVES.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by HumanitySector

+8

Exactly.



Except Rihanna is the best digital selling artist in history and is currently 5th best selling female artist of all time, and the best selling artist this millenium (maybe except Britney Spears, but I doubt it)

But her album sales lack although the music she puts out are so great. And she has 7 albums and so many singles of course she's going to be the best digital selling artist.

It's still hard for her though. She has some big hits like Diamonds, but the follow ups never are that big. She doesn't get the respect, and she has to work harder to get hits unlike these white pop girls who sell out, and make millions without an ounce of talent.

[Cupcake.]

People pulling the race card
You can never have a healthy discussion with the Hive

[idkher]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Whitney Houston for example has 2 songs that are more relevant nowadays than any songs by white divas like Madonna, Mariah or Barbara Streisand. The race card has to stop.

I was with you until you said Mariah is white and that any Whitney song is more known than AIWFCIY

[50thStateofMind]

I have literally never heard anyone shade her for being a "celebrity"? She's only a celebrity BECAUSE of her success as an artist

[Jet]

Originally posted by Cupcake.

People pulling the race card
You can never have a healthy discussion with the Hive

The person who brought up the race comment isn't even a hive member so what are you talking about?

And he had a very good point.

[idkher]

Originally posted by PULSE.

Hasn't Beyonce's Ms. Cater Show tour OUT-GROSSED all her peers tours? I believe it has

It's funny because this is the reason atrl tries shade Pink, she's not "celebrity" enough.

It must suck to hate someone that everyone loves, including your FAVES.

I'm sure if Katy Perry, Taylor Swift or Rihanna did as many dates they would gross just as much. The fact is that touring is much bigger now than it was before so it's like comparing single sales from now to the 80s, it just doesn't make sense.

It's called a healthy balance of celebrity and success and people like Rihanna, Katy and Taylor have achieved it

[M A R C]

Originally posted by Gary

I have never seen anyone shade her for being a "celebrity."

.

[KingBeyonce.]

I see some users saying that she is just "known for being Beyoncé and not her music" but the only way that could have come about to begin with is through her music...cause..she's a singer....
I'm just not seeing the logic behind this entire argument. Poor gals.

[50thStateofMind]

Originally posted by Dawn

I swear, the people who constantly try to discredit Beyonce for every little thing are seriously as stupid as they come. Saying that people outside of the US don't know Beyonce is a singer is the same as saying Nobody in Europe knows Nicki Minaj raps. Like, that doesn't even make sense.

Beyonce has had 4 sold out world tours, 6 if you count DC. Her last album is currently the most critically praised pop album in several years. Shes the most awarded female in history and is the most grammy nominated female ever and is one of the most successful artists of all time. Her music career totally eclipses her celebrity status. You must be a moron if you think the world cares more about some fake rumor than her music. Cut it out, it isn't cute anymore.

ALL of this.

I mean, people need to get a grip

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by idkher

I was with you until you said Mariah is white and that any Whitney song is more known than AIWFCIY

AIWFCIY is only relevant in the holidays season though in some countries. Afterwards it takes the backseat to Mariah's classics like Without You. I guess you could call it the most memorable christmas pop song ever, that I'd agree with. And Mariah is mixed. Referring to her as either white or black is factual.

I think it in terms of memorability. It goes:

All I want for Christmas Is You
1- I Will Always Love You
2- My Heart will go on
3- I Wanna Dance With Somebody
4- Without You
5- Like A Prayer

The whitest girl of the bunch gets the last spot, so there's no excuse for Beyonce.

[PULSE.]

Originally posted by idkher

I'm sure if Katy Perry, Taylor Swift or Rihanna did as many dates they would gross just as much. The fact is that touring is much bigger now than it was before so it's like comparing single sales from now to the 80s, it just doesn't make sense.

It's called a healthy balance of celebrity and success and people like Rihanna, Katy and Taylor have achieved it

17 Grammys • TITAN • 490+ awards • TIME Cover • World's Most Powerful Celebrity • $1B dollar film gross • $115 Million in one year. • 5 consecutive number-one albums • 225 million records • Female Artist of the Decade • Billboard's Radio Artist of the Decade. • Hot 100 Female Artist of the Decade • Billboard's Airplay Artist of the Decade • Artist of the Millennium • RIAA's Top-selling artist of the 2000s.• Legend Award • AMA's International Artist Award • World's best-selling celebrity fragrance line • Guinness World Record fastest-selling album on iTunes - 828,773 units in 3 days • First album to top 111 countries on iTunes • $450 - $500M networth • $561M tour gross • 800+ mag covers • Universal Acclaim • Star on Hollywood Walk of Fame. • Most Awarded Artist Alive • Most Influential Person by TIME.• Most Powerful Musician by Forbes. • Video Vanguard Award.• Harvard University study.• Rock n Roll Hall of Fame exhibit .• RESPECT


Beyonce has achieved it in all fields.

[Tinker]

Well, I've seen Brinty stans saying that. They just have absolutely nothing to drag her for. That's why all Beyonce drags are fantasies and fallacies. She's pretty un-dragable so of course other fanbases will fume and find other ways to piss of the hive. yall get so pissed off rather quickly.

[PULSE.]

Originally posted by idkher

I'm sure if Katy Perry, Taylor Swift or Rihanna did as many dates they would gross just as much.

Katy Perry had more dates.
1 leg of Beyonce's tour outgrossed Rihanna's whole tour.
Didn't Taylor play some Stadiums? Yet, one of Beyonce's legs was her tour total gross.

Then Beyonce grossed another $100M months later from 21 dates.

Also they're not her peers they look up and STAN for her.