[Jewfro]

No? Main pop girls sell albums, singles, get consistent radio play, have high tour grosses, get Youtube views, etc.
Gaga tours nightclubs playing piano with a 90 year old.

[PoisonPill]

Originally posted by Jewfro

No? Main pop girls sell albums, singles, get consistent radio play, have high tour grosses, get Youtube views, etc.
Gaga tours nightclubs playing piano with a 90 year old.

[Brunette Ambition]

Originally posted by Jewfro

No? Main pop girls sell albums, singles, get consistent radio play, have high tour grosses, get Youtube views, etc.
Gaga tours nightclubs playing piano with a 90 year old.

Gaga did okay with ARTPOP, compared to others it's not that horrible like people want it to be.
Applause and DWUW were hits.
Applause was her biggest radio hit.
She has 2 tours in the most 10 successful female tours ever and the artRave was with her underperforming album and did very very well for that.
G.U.Y. has 80M views and it was an unknown flop.
+ She has always toured night clubs, this time a living legend is with her.

Y'all trying so hard.

[Mariano]

Originally posted by Ties

Rihanna's latest album: 4m ww

Beyonce's latest album: 3.6m ww

Taylor's latest album: 2m+ ww

Katy's latest album: 3.3m ww

Lady Gaga's latest album: 1.7m ww (has stopped selling a while ago)

Pretty obvious.

According to which source ?

According to mediatraffic ARTPOP's last update (3-4 months ago) was 1.85.

According to IFPI it's at 2.3M

So yeah I would really like you to provide me with a source

And I really, really love how ATRL are setting themselves for the biggest drags since those that monsters witnessed when Gaga underperformed. Remember how y'all were saying Karma is a bitch ? You're next

[Schhh]

No, she's definitely not in the same league as those artist listed in the first post.

Gaga is in the league with Miley Cyrus, I'd say.

[Squall]

Originally posted by Mariano

According to which source ?

According to mediatraffic ARTPOP's last update (3-4 months ago) was 1.85.

According to IFPI it's at 2.3M

So yeah I would really like you to provide me with a source

And I really, really love how ATRL are setting themselves for the biggest drags since those that monsters witnessed when Gaga underperformed. Remember how y'all were saying Karma is a bitch ? You're next

shippements*

[Brando]

Yes, she is. Not on the same level as those in the op, but she still is.

[Muh]

She's never been on the same league as them.

She's always been better.

[Mariano]

Originally posted by Squall

shippements*

ARTPOP has shipped more than 2.3M - called common logic.

And maybe you have receipts to provide me with, that it's shipments ? Either way his receipts were wrong so nope.

And Gaga failing to keep consistency

She has been selling albums and singles WW the most consistenly from 2009 to 2011 than anyone else.

And she's been grossing the most + consistently from 2009 to 2014 than anyone else.

And next era when she gets her **** together y'all will have a really bad time on this site, remember my words. Selling 2M albums with ARTPOP with all the messiness no manager etc. and now having a great time that supports her + some self reflection.. Y'all are making the same mistakes, we (monsters) did pre ARTPOP.

[Kkamjong]

Not really. She's still a pop star, but she isn't really leading the game like the rest of the girls

[ChandlerBing]

It's kinda Brit, Bey, Rih, Katy and Gags forever tbh. The quintet!

[toanythingtaboo]

If you asked random people on the street who the biggest female popstars were, I'd find it hard to believe that Gaga wouldn't be mentioned by a significant amount of them.

Some of her fans are delusional as to her current popularity, but plenty of you are so willingly dismissive that you can't see the wood from the trees. One mediocre album last year isn't going to make everyone forget the past 5 years.

[Squall]

Originally posted by Mariano

ARTPOP has shipped more than 2.3M - called common logic.

And maybe you have receipts to provide me with, that it's shipments ? Either way his receipts were wrong so nope.

And Gaga failing to keep consistency

She has been selling albums and singles WW the most consistenly from 2009 to 2011 than anyone else.

And she's been grossing the most + consistently from 2009 to 2014 than anyone else.

And next era when she gets her **** together y'all will have a really bad time on this site, remember my words. Selling 2M albums with ARTPOP with all the messiness no manager etc. and now having a great time that supports her + some self reflection.. Y'all are making the same mistakes, we (monsters) did pre ARTPOP.

Because IFPI has always been about it?
Or maybe you have a source that says it is not?

[Nicole]

Originally posted by Jewfro

No? Main pop girls sell albums, singles, get consistent radio play, have high tour grosses, get Youtube views, etc.
Gaga tours nightclubs playing piano with a 90 year old.

Why is this reported? Because Tony is actually 88? Idgi.

Anyway, the answer's no.

[GetYourAssInMyBed]

Same old delusion from the same haters. I thought you guys would have grown up a bit by now. Gaga's is still a main pop girl and literally nothing you say can disprove that.

[villain]

D-list.

[Squall]

Originally posted by GetYourAssInMyBed

Same old delusion from the same haters. I thought you guys would have grown up a bit by now. Gaga's is still a main pop girl and literally nothing you say can disprove that.

Can she sell as many albums as the main girls? No.
Can she sell as many singles as the main girls? No.
Can she gross as many as the main girls tour wise? No.
Can she even be nominated at the Grammys? No, Applause was snubbed last year.

[Mariano]

Originally posted by Squall

Because IFPI has always been about it?
Or maybe you have a source that says it is not?

IFPI's numbers are always higher, but it's not shipments.

I sometimes find it odd (the IFPI numbers) but they are not shipments.

ARTPOP has sold 2M for sure (Mediatraffic has it at 1.85 4 months ago and with the artrave still going it's pretty sure it's 1.9 on mediatraffic alone) and Mediatraffic is unreliable and doesn't include a lot of countries.

Let's say ARTPOP is 2M. Do you think they only shipped 300k Worldwide ( and Gaga is very, very global, they have to ship more albums in many more countries than some other artists).

If you were a business man how would you distribute 300k copies WW for so many stores etc. It's impossible. ARTPOP has easily shipped at least 2.6-2.7k and that is only because underperformed.

Albums like BTW and TFM have at least 1-2M shipments over what they've sold.

And my source is common logic + on the IFPI reports it simply says SALES. And written by the INDUSTRY ITSELF this is really significant because they know the EXACT difference between Shipments and Sales and just because uneucated people on ATRL say "Shipments are sales .... to retailers" for the Industry they are SHIPMENTS otherwise there wouldn't be the word SHIPMENTS.

[Squall]

Originally posted by Mariano

IFPI's numbers are always higher.

My point.
Thank you.

[GetYourAssInMyBed]

Originally posted by Squall

Can she sell as many albums as the main girls? No.
Can she sell as many singles as the main girls? No.
Can she gross as many as the main girls tour wise? No.
Can she even be nominated at the Grammys? No, Applause was snubbed last year.

Excuse me, Applause and DWUW were extremely successful so idk what you're talking about.The artRAVE is going to gross over 80 million that's more than a lot of pop girls' tours. C2C is selling consistently and you can't use the Grammys against us yet since the nominations haven't even been announced yet. The fact that you're basing all of this off one era really shows your delusion. You can't count her out just because one of her albums underperformed in comparison to her other releases.