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Poll: Can Beyonce sell 1 million copies of albums?
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Originally posted by Vespertine
How when it didn't even sell 1m in the first 10 days? 
With a relentless promo schedule for RTW/4, she did like 300k first week. The massive hype/media frenzy of the surprise release is why she did 600k in 3 days, and that's not something she can replicate. So I doubt it. |
Not when 4 leaked three weeks before the release.
ST was boycotted by Target and Amazon.
You guys should wait until her next traditional release before dragging her.
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PS: Some of you have no business talking about sales 
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
Beyonce was out with DC who peaked at the height of album sales. She was out solo when Diamond albums and 1m+ debuts still happened (DiL era with her most iconic hit ever). She never came remotely close back then, I highly doubt she would now. The answer is no.
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So now DC is part of Bey's career? 
You guys change your mind about Bey more often than you go to the bathroom.
Album sales peaked in 2000, not 2003 and DIL is diamond. Check your facts, nephew.
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Let's be perfectly clear here, while a million selling album is VERY impressive and should be something to brag about, it's something that the GP and history don't really care about. If you ask someone on the street they are not going to name OIDIA as the album with the biggest debut week, they'll name some other huge and important album that they think would have had this record, not some teen-pop forgettable album. The song is iconic, the album is not.
It's far more important to have some sort of impact on society aside from being able to get as many people as possible to buy your album. It has to actually make them collectively feel something.
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Originally posted by swissman
If we are comparing 4 to 1989, 4 had a lead single that was incredibly different than what was popular in pop music. 2011 was a very mono-music era. It was pretty much dance pop generic songs or Adele. There was little in-between for pop girls.
1989 is a standard pop album with a lead single that was digestible. There is a big difference here.]
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I was comparing 4 to BEYONCÉ to show that the "but no promo!!" bit is not true (I saw someone saying last night that Bey could've "easily done 1m if she had a promo schedule like Taylor's"). Bey did much better with the surprise release because every major news outlet picked it up and essentially created promo for her, while RTW/4 had a huge video, high-profile performances, etc. like 1989 and did 300k.
And RTW was not "incredibly different" from popular dance music. It's incredibly different from the rest of the album; it sounds like it was created just so that 4 would have a viable lead single.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not some hater (4 and BEY are among my favorite albums), but sometimes the stan goggles need to come off. She can't do 1m first week 
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Originally posted by Vespertine
I was comparing 4 to BEYONCÉ to show that the "but no promo!!" bit is not true (I saw someone saying last night that Bey could've "easily done 1m if she had a promo schedule like Taylor's"). Bey did much better with the surprise release because every major news outlet picked it up and essentially created promo for her, while RTW/4 had a huge video, high-profile performances, etc. like 1989 and did 300k.
And RTW was not "incredibly different" from popular dance music, are you serious? It's incredibly different from the rest of the album; it sounds like it was created just so that 4 would have a viable lead single.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not some hater (4 and BEY are among my favorite albums), but sometimes the stan goggles need to come off. She can't do 1m first week |
Yes, promo doesn't always work. It has to promote something that the public wants. BEYONCÉ is artistic and yet incredibly commercial, much more so than 4 was, so promo would certainly have boosted the sales. The surprise helped her sell with 0 promo, but it was not the only way for her to sell. She could have made some big deal about announcing her new album, getting everyone hyped, inviting pre-orders, giving goodies out, etc. Also 4 was in the beginning of summer as opposed to 1989's Q4 release but that's a different topic.
Now let's just examine what you say: that RTW was similar to popular music at the time. Let's review those popular songs: Born This Way, Hold it Against Me, E.T., S&M, Rolling in the Deep, Give Me Everything, Party Rock Anthemn, Last Friday Night, We Found Love, Moves Like Jagger, On the Floor, Till the World Ends, Blow, I Wanna Go, etc.
These are all for the most part "dance pop" with dance breakdowns and easy hooks. They do not have aggressive melodies or alternative hip-hop/dancehall elements. If you could provide me with examples as to how RTW fit in with the times, please do. As for Pon de Floor, it was popular in some clubs and yet it's highest chart appearance is number 187 in the UK.
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In the States? no. Worldwide? maybe.
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Oh stop. I hate the whole "stan glasses" bs because mine are off. Everyone saying "yes" is using common sense. If she had traditional promo (news outlets talking about an album IS NOT promo, performing your song and being interviewed about the project IS) and physical units available at the same time, she would've sold 1M or very close to it in a week. She did what she did with no support from Target or Amazon. If all the factors I mentioned were in place it would've happened.
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I'm surprised Dangerously In Love/B-Day didn't. It's just that drive she needs. I'm sure she has it.
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Originally posted by Beyond Say
So is this going to be the new thing to discredit Beyoncé? "She's never sold 1 million in a week?" despite most artist never selling that much in a week.
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Either this or mentioning Adele. Shows how powerful Bey is tbh.
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Aint no need to entertain this mess. Y'all know she already did so stop the madness!
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Originally posted by Superpower
So now DC is part of Bey's career?
You guys change your mind about Bey more often than you go to the bathroom.
Album sales peaked in 2000, not 2003 and DIL is diamond. Check your facts, nephew. |
It's not even 5x platinum according to wikipedia.
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Originally posted by Superpower
So now DC is part of Bey's career?
You guys change your mind about Bey more often than you go to the bathroom.
Album sales peaked in 2000, not 2003 and DIL is diamond. Check your facts, nephew. |
My facts are perfectly fine, thank you very much.
Like I said, DC peaked when album sales peaked, with The Writing's on the Wall. And around 2003 1m+ debuts still happened (Norah Jones and Usher both opened to 1m+ a year later).
Dangerously in Love is also not certified Diamond  There are no certifications for worldwide sales, FYI.
So please check your facts. And you are not my uncle thank you very much.
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Originally posted by Rei
It's not even 5x platinum according to wikipedia.
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Wikipedia as a source though...you could of used the reference section. 
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The question here is not if she will or won't, the question is CAN she? And the answer to that is YES. Like it was said, there are no stan glasses needed to see the potential she has for this.
She certainly could have sold that much if she surprise released on a Monday to multiple retailers, and then launched a full weeklong day-and-night promo campaign including everything you could ever conceive of for a promo campaign from print to digital to interviews to performances. She already proved to have massive interest in her album with very little provocation, this other stuff would have put her over the million mark.
But will she? Probably not. She does not seem concerned with lining everything up perfectly in order to get the best sales weeks, etc. or else she would indeed have released on a Monday.
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
My facts are perfectly fine, thank you very much.
Like I said, DC peaked when album sales peaked, with The Writing's on the Wall. And around 2003 1m+ debuts still happened (Norah Jones and Usher both opened to 1m+ a year later).
Dangerously in Love is also not certified Diamond There are no certifications for worldwide sales, FYI.
So please check your facts. And you are not my uncle thank you very much. |
Greasy dc was amazing album sellers
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Originally posted by swissman
Let's be perfectly clear here, while a million selling album is VERY impressive and should be something to brag about, it's something that the GP and history don't really care about. If you ask someone on the street they are not going to name OIDIA as the album with the biggest debut week, they'll name some other huge and important album that they think would have had this record, not some teen-pop forgettable album. The song is iconic, the album is not.
It's far more important to have some sort of impact on society aside from being able to get as many people as possible to buy your album. It has to actually make them collectively feel something.
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The ridiculous, desperate, embarrassing attempts to discredit Britney  Then why are you even in this thread trying to give an alternate universe what if scenario about how Beyonce would have sold 1m+ if she did x amount of promo 
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Originally posted by GrandMomCookies
Greasy dc was amazing album sellers
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And they never came close to 1m first week. Which is what this thread is about. 
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Originally posted by RomanNavy
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GIRLLLLLLLLLLL don't even try it!
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We've already seen it demonstrated that domestically, the answer is no. She didn't even hit 1 million domestically in ten days. While I realize it's quite strange to say "didn't even" there because those are great sales, my point stands: she can sell and has sold 1 million globally in the space of a week, but can't and likely won't domestically. Considering that we only ever give significance to the million milestone domestically, your answer is no.
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