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Poll: Is Taylor officially the biggest pop girl?
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View Poll Results: Is Taylor the biggest pop girl
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Yes
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No
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If she is, it sure as hell doesn't feel like she is.
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Originally posted by M A R C
What truly is laughable that y'all are really serious about this.
You really think Taylor is bigger than Beyonce and Rihanna?
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No album by either of them has managed to outsell Red globally since 2008. No album by Rihanna has outsold Fearless globally. No album by either artist has outsold any Taylor album in the US since Dangerously in Love in 2003. Taylor grossed 150.2m with 86 dates, which is a higher gross than the Diamonds World Tour and which yields a higher average than both the DWT and the Mrs. Carter Show. Neither Beyonce nor Rihanna has had a hit as successful as WANEGBT, IKYWT, or SIO from either of their last albums, or either of their last two in Bey's case.
It really is just inarguable.
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Red selling 6 million copies, the same amount of albums TD sold, without 6 #1 singles and a re-release
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Originally posted by Cupcake.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._concert_tours
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18 $150,184,971 $150,184,971 Taylor Swift The Red Tour 2013–14 86 1,702,933 1.75 19,801
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RED
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Argentina (CAPIF)[115] Gold 20,000x
Australia (ARIA)[116] 3× Platinum 210,000^
Brazil (ABPD)[117] Platinum 40,000*
Canada (Music Canada)[118] 4× Platinum 320,000^
Colombia[119] Gold 10,000
Ireland (IRMA)[120] Platinum 15,000x
Japan (RIAJ)[121] Platinum 250,000^
Mexico (AMPROFON)[122] Gold 30,000^
New Zealand (RMNZ)[123] 2× Platinum 30,000^
Philippines[124] 2× Platinum 30,000*
Poland (ZPAV)[125] Gold 10,000*
Sweden (GLF)[126] Gold 20,000x
United Kingdom (BPI)[127] Platinum 300,000^
United States (RIAA)[128] 4× Platinum 4,024,000[129]
Venezuela[130] Gold 5,000
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PRISM
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Australia (ARIA)[163] 3× Platinum 179,000[104]
Austria (IFPI Austria)[164] 2× Platinum 30,000x
Canada (Music Canada)[165] 2× Platinum 160,000^
China (SAPPRFT)[166] Gold 10,000^
Germany (BVMI)[167] Gold 100,000^
France (SNEP)[168] Platinum 100,000*
Ireland (IRMA)[169] Gold 7,500x
Italy (FIMI)[170] Gold 25,000*
Mexico (AMPROFON)[171] 2× Platinum 120,000^
New Zealand (RMNZ)[172] 2× Platinum 30,000^
Poland (ZPAV)[173] Gold 10,000*
Sweden (GLF)[174] Platinum 40,000^
Switzerland (IFPI Switzerland)[105] Gold 15,000x
United Kingdom (BPI)[175] Platinum 300,000^
United States 1,100,000[176]
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Member Since: 4/22/2012
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No, it takes more than selling loads of albums. She doesn't have any impact and has not revolutionized pop on any way.
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Originally posted by Dawn
YOu really won't let me have anything  |
Nope. 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by sunofaphrodite
1. she is supposed to sell 1 million. source
2. her last promo single sold 195K and debuted at #18 (preorders do not count anymore)
3. her lead singles and promo singles charted better than all three others in that list
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1. Billboard says 900k tops
2. Other promo singles have done better (although Tay is the Queen of promo singles)
3. That last ones a complete lie. Roar and Diamonds were way bigger than SIO, and we all know what happened with Dark Horse
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by revel8
Taylor is currently top of WW itunes charts though. For both singles AND albums. She has the no 1 song WW with Welcome To New York. And Shake It Off is currently the no 2 song WW. Plus 1989 is Top of the WW Album itunes chart.
All that is according to Kworb's own methodology on his website
http://kworb.net/itunes/
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WTNY is the #1 song WW??!? wow her power 
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Originally posted by YR.
PRISM WW #s are not even Red's US #s
PRISM hasn't outsold Red in the US and in the UK
The PRISM era sold less singles than Red
The PRISM era only had two hits while Red had three
I could go on. I could talk about Katy and Taylor's peak were a BIT different. Do you want me to compare Fearless and TD? I could go there > US and WW
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All you keep saying is how Taylor is bigger in the US  The only thing Taylor got over Katy is her US album sales. Katy is more global, have bigger singles and a huge online following. Their touring is about the same now with Katy's new "peak" 
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
WTNY is the #1 song WW??!? wow her power |
Even Taylor her noise goes #1 WW 
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Member Since: 6/9/2012
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Currently. Yes.
But Beyonce is still the biggest celebrity. And it's not like Katy won't reclaim her throne either.
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Originally posted by sunofaphrodite
1. she is supposed to sell 1 million. source
2. her last promo single sold 195K and debuted at #18 (preorders do not count anymore)
3. her lead singles and promo singles charted better than all three others in that list
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Worldwide none of her singles have done as good as Diamonds and Roar
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Why is this reported?
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by Havoc
If she is, it sure as hell doesn't feel like she is.
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Agreed! just like Bey seems bigger than she is Tay seems smaller than she is which is great for career longevity the media will not see the need to destroy her like they did gaga 
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Originally posted by Fred Perry
All you keep saying is how Taylor is bigger in the US The only thing Taylor got over Katy is her US album sales. Katy is more global, have bigger singles and a huge online following. Their touring is about the same now with Katy's new "peak" |
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
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Katy Perry is not bigger than Taylor Swift in the United States of America
Katy Perry is not bigger than Taylor Swift in Europe
Katy Perry is not bigger than Taylor Swift in South America
Katy Perry is not bigger than Taylor Swift in Asia
Katy Perry is NOT bigger than Taylor Swift
and that's the end of it
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Member Since: 9/20/2011
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Not the Navy, Kats and Hive CLINGLING into "impact" to deny that their fave has been taken over by Tay.
The tragic desperation.
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In my country no one knows who she is. So nope
In America, maybe.
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by Fred Perry
All you keep saying is how Taylor is bigger in the US The only thing Taylor got over Katy is her US album sales. Katy is more global, have bigger singles and a huge online following. Their touring is about the same now with Katy's new "peak" |
They are not on the same level touring Katy has done 50 more dates to get the same gross as Taylor
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
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The PWT will outgross the RED tour.
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Originally posted by YR.
Katy Perry is not bigger than Taylor Swift in the United States of America
Katy Perry is not bigger than Taylor Swift in Europe
Katy Perry is not bigger than Taylor Swift in South America
Katy Perry is not bigger than Taylor Swift in Asia
Katy Perry is NOT bigger than Taylor Swift
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She is though. 
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