[RihannasVeryOwn]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

So it's fair to drag Beyonce for photoshopped photos, but it is unfair to drag Nicki for cosmetic surgery AND photoshopping her pictures?

How exactly is getting a cosmetic surgery to alter your appearance not comparable to photoshopping a photo to alter your appearance?

You're not making any sense at all. You really just need to accept that your position towards Beyonce and Nicki here are completely biased by your own feelings about the artists and do not make logical sense.

Does Nicki's getting a bigger ass cause women to be insecure? Does Nicki's getting a bigger ass reinforce Eurocentric beauty standards? Does Nicki's getting a bigger ass trigger already emotionally unstable women to hurt themselves? It's more the effects of what they do than the acts themselves.

Because of harmful Eurocentric beauty standards, Nicki is subject to racist ridicule for her ass but the same does not go for Beyonce.
Nicki is body positive and Beyonce clearly isn't, it has nothing to do with personal bias.

[Shinning]

Why are y'all still losing time arguing with RihannasVeryOwn like let it rant by itself

[Alvajay]

At this point in this thread anyone that really agrees with Annie just doesnt like Beyonce Thats all im seeing

[TikiMiss]

Originally posted by Shinning

Yes according to Annie Lenox you can only be a feminist if you have short mens hair and wear suits all the time. That's it.

Sheryl Sandberg, Chimamanda, Oprah, Stephanie Meyer, Eleanor Roosevelt, Sojourner Truth, Michelle Obama, and countless other women are feminists without looking like boys nor gyrating in thongs

[Walley]

Originally posted by Red Hot Moon

Wow. Just NO. You can't be part of a movement without basic knowledge of its foundations. I'm not even talking about tertiary education. You can study on your own, go to a library, do research on the internet. There is no excuse for not educating yourself on the subject before you start taking the term feminism in your mouth. It's just laziness or lack of interest. OR wait: You can, but don't expect to be taken seriously.

So what you are saying is that a woman in the middle east without a right to education, who wants woman to be treated the same as men, can't be a feminist because she hasn't studied the history of it? You're a joke.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn

Does Nicki's getting a bigger ass cause women to be insecure? Does Nicki's getting a bigger ass reinforce Eurocentric beauty standards? Does Nicki's getting a bigger ass trigger already emotionally unstable women to hurt themselves? It's more the effects of what they do than the acts themselves.

Because of harmful Eurocentric beauty standards, Nicki is subject to racist ridicule for her ass but the same does not go for Beyonce.
Nicki is body positive and Beyonce clearly isn't, it has nothing to do with personal bias.

New signature once I'm back at my computer tbh

[Alvajay]

Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn

Does Nicki's getting a bigger ass cause women to be insecure? Does Nicki's getting a bigger ass reinforce Eurocentric beauty standards? Does Nicki's getting a bigger ass trigger already emotionally unstable women to hurt themselves? It's more the effects of what they do than the acts themselves.

But it does because shes showing women unrealistic body types that are praised by men, im not saying its the "beauty standard" at all in any shape or form but her getting ass shots CAN in many forms make many many women insecure, it works both ways Nickis ass may not cause women to have a eating disorder but her look can cause women to go get ass implants, etc etc like I said it works both ways you cannot pick & choose. Im also pretty pretty sure Nicki has had her photos enhanced for photoshoots, etc

[QueenBLadyG]

Originally posted by TikiMiss

She's right. Putting Beyonce's picture (gyrating and shaking her boobs) next to a picture of Susan B. Anthony or any real feminist is downright insulting.

That's one small aspect of Beyoncé, and every other popstar. She's more than worthy of having her photo next to Susan B. Anthony. Such ignorance.

[Alvajay]

Anaconda is also not a body pos song. Its a song about having a big ass with a small waist "little in the middle but she got much back" I mean common lbr

[DIVO DIVINE]

So feminists are supposed to empower women by telling them how NOT to be women? This is Beyoncé's point. Quote Chimamanda to this bitch.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

By that logic we can blame Nicki for people who get those cement butt implants that cause serious medical complications.


Just stop trying to justify it. You're only fooling yourself and making yourself look foolish.

[Valera]

Feminism is stupid anyway, so I don't care at all if she does it right or wrong. I wish she would stop with it.

#YesToEqualityNoToFeminism #SorryNoSorry

[PentegramPeterPan]

Annie is a Madonna-sized legend and I love her infinitely more than Beyoncé, but I do not fully agree with her on this. I see where she's coming from, but at the same time feminism is such a huge , broad idea that means very different things to different people.

Now everyone go buy Annie's flawless new album that came out yesterday

[Latch]

Originally posted by Valera

Feminism is stupid anyway, so I don't care at all if she does it right or wrong. I wish she would stop with it.

#YesToEqualityNoToFeminism #SorryNoSorry

This literally makes so much sense, wow

[Teen Idle]

Since when was Bey associated with twerking tho? She doesn't even twerk often or make a big deal out of it... Why isn't she saying this about Miley Cyrus?

And doesn't twerking have roots in African dance and isn't it not meant to be sexual? This just reeks of out-of-touch self-righteous white feminism.

[JustActinUP]

A self proclaimed feminist trying to police another woman's sexuality and freedom of expression, with an elitist, self righteous attitude. SO progressive for the movement.

[Trent W]

Does Beyonce twerk tho?
She's an urban artist but she twerking is not her stample.

Most of times I side the opposite side of Bey cause I fell she's wrong, but this is the 2nd time this woman speaks about her, so I guess she just wants attention.

[Tom_Ford]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

Could you please provide me the quote where Beyoncé stated that twerking is what makes her a feminist?

Could you also illuminate me on whether or not you are aware of sex positive feminists, and the push for the recognition of the rights and dignity of sex workers in the feminist movement?

[Ressti]

This is so offensive on so many levels, but i'm not gonna get into it.

Twerking is a dance, not sure what it has to do with whether or not it makes a woman a feminist.... It's like saying "Moonwalking isn't feminism" or "The electric slide isn't feminism"

Beyoncé has made it clear what she stands for. Equal rights for men and women all over the world. That's why she's so involved with Chime for Change and other charities for women and children.

Annie is out of line and frankly she comes across as very judgmental. I'm glad Beyoncé evolved and is more accepting of other women's choices.

[Kai Tai]

Originally posted by Sonny

Did Annie lie?

Yea