[Lover]

Originally posted by Inception

that's not too bad. i mean mdna scored a 64 and i was happy plus it's 3 points more than artpop.

so it's definitely an upgrade. congrats to both of them.

[Moonchild]

Originally posted by Brando

Sales 2 Sales
Acclaim 2 Acclaim

Still hope for Grammy 2 Grammy though

Originally posted by Lover

that's not too bad. i mean mdna scored a 64 and i was happy plus it's 3 points more than artpop.

so it's definitely an upgrade. congrats to both of them.

People who typically has a disfavorable opinion of Gaga are praising C2C and its Metascore while us Monsters are generally disappointed in it. What kind of reverse Warholian tea?

[Raava]

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but If any of you seriously believe this will be nominated to a major Grammy category...

[KK_Lover]

[jhonyguy04]

Originally posted by Raava

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but If any of you seriously believe this will be nominated to a major Grammy category...

IA lol. Let's not set ourselves up for dissapointmemt. Let's just celebrate our number one position.

[bluth]

Originally posted by Brando

Sales 2 Sales
Acclaim 2 Acclaim

Still hope for Grammy 2 Grammy though

It's sold well thus far for a niche album

idk what you're even doing here

[alex_katycat]

Only 64 for a jazz album? I don't see it as an acclaimed album tbh.

[Rusty]

Originally posted by alex_katycat

Only 64 for a jazz album? I don't see it as an acclaimed album tbh.

By definition as a jazz album it should be higher? That's... an interesting leap past logic.

[alex_katycat]

Originally posted by Rusty

By definition as a jazz album it should be higher? That's... an interesting leap past logic.

Jazz music is more acclaimed than pop and other genres. Tony's last albums had a higher meta score, I wonder what went wrong this time.

[Rama]

Gaga remains a MC green artist with all of her LPs

[Eric.]

This website I follow reviewed the album:

That’s something that develops over time, though, and that big exception I mentioned is Billy Strayhorn’s “Lush Life,” which is significant as being one of the least cakewalk-able tunes you could do. The Great American Songbook has few songs this difficult, with drifting key signatures, a melody that’s hard to capture and one of the darkest, most complex lyrics of its time. And Gaga nails it, earning her belt moment at the end, but playing the dissolve with sensitivity and grace towards its tragic and ambiguous ending. “Lush Life” is the ultimate high-risk, high-reward standard: if you screw it up it’ll haunt you like dysentery, but if you don’t you’ve justified everything about your decision to go into music. Gaga does not screw it up. At all.

The jazz combo arrangements are serviceable to both Bennett’s standard and Gaga’s debutante entry, with a few variations and unexpected moments. For all its ready accessibility and unassailable material, nobody’s phoning this thing in. Bennett continues his unparalleled march through the love of several generations, Gaga proves respectable and potentially capable of something greater in the future, and if this isn’t your bag, at least you now have a guilt-free Christmas gift for your aunt. Cheek To Cheek isn’t novel, but it’s no novelty either, and while it doesn’t redefine the classics it makes a strong case for their respect. Once I get out of this locker the football team stuffed me into maybe I’ll play it again, and then I’ll make you all pay.

Positive and focused

Originally posted by Rama

Gaga remains a MC green artist with all of her LPs

[Rusty]

Originally posted by alex_katycat

Jazz music is more acclaimed than pop and other genres. Tony's last albums had a higher meta score, I wonder what went wrong this time.

Jazz is more acclaimed in general in your opinion? Interesting speculation you present as fact.

Isn't it funny that the thing you assume went wrong keeps this album over the entire discography of other artist when it comes to metacritic scores, though? Weird. Not to mention this album is virtually acclaimed (check the OP) by the reviews not eligible for metacritic. What went right, I wonder?

[Dylangaga]

This album is amazing no matter what the meta critic score is! Look at all the acclaim and look at how pressed the negative reviews are...most of the negative reviews are so UNPROFESSIONAL and HARSH and most of them dont even mention cheek to cheek but rather gagas past and ARTPOP.

[alex_katycat]

Originally posted by Rusty

Jazz is more acclaimed in general in your opinion? Interesting speculation you present as fact.

Isn't it funny that the thing you assume went wrong keeps this album over the entire discography of other artist when it comes to metacritic scores, though? Weird. Not to mention this album is virtually acclaimed (check the OP) by the reviews not eligible for metacritic. What went right, I wonder?

1)In general. Check the metascore an average jazz album will get and then check the meta score
an average pop album will get. Except for that, jazz music is a lot more acclaimed among the GP.
2)Your attempT to involve other artists into this is just delusional. Stay on topic.
3)Many other albums got positive reviews by reviews that were not eligible for metacritic, do we have to consider these, too? We're talking only about meta critic. A 64 mark is poor for a jazz album, that's the fact , especially when people were talking in the beginning about a 90+ mark

[Gee]

Originally posted by alex_katycat

1)In general. Check the metascore an average jazz album will get and then check the meta score
an average pop album will get. Except for that, jazz music is a lot more acclaimed among the GP.
2)Your attempT to involve other artists into this is just delusional. Stay on topic.
3)Many other albums got positive reviews by reviews that were not eligible for metacritic, do we have to consider these, too? We're talking only about meta critic. A 64 mark is poor for a jazz album, that's the fact , especially when people were talking in the beginning about a 90+ mark

When all else fails just call someone delusional

[Rusty]

Originally posted by alex_katycat

1)In general. Check the metascore an average jazz album will get and then check the meta score
an average pop album will get. Except for that, jazz music is a lot more acclaimed among the GP.
2)Your attempT to involve other artists into this is just delusional. Stay on topic.
3)Many other albums got positive reviews by reviews that were not eligible for metacritic, do we have to consider these, too? We're talking only about meta critic. A 64 mark is poor for a jazz album, that's the fact

1. "In general" remains your assumption. Pop(ular) music just has so many more entries it may seem that way because perhaps many mainstream albums are in the mixed range. That doesn't mean most are, or a higher proportion versus jazz albums.
2. No attempt, just a similar observation based on yours of "what went wrong."
3. Once again, you asked "what went wrong" and I simply stated it has far more overwhelmingly positive reviews than negative which disproves that notion. The fact that here you're acting like this Gaga album should have a high score simply because it's jazz and elsewhere on this forum you're acting like it should have pop sales shows your transparency.

Perhaps you should take a moment outside of Gaga threads for a change of pace.

[alex_katycat]

Originally posted by Rusty

1. "In general" remains your assumption. Pop(ular) music just has so many more entries it may seem that way because perhaps many mainstream albums are in the mixed range. That doesn't mean most are, or a higher proportion versus jazz albums.
2. No attempt, just a similar observation based on yours of "what went wrong."
3. Once again, you asked "what went wrong" and I simply stated it has far more overwhelmingly positive reviews than negative which disproves that notion. The fact that here you're acting like this Gaga album should have a high score simply because it's jazz and elsewhere on this forum you're acting like it should have pop sales shows your transparency.

Perhaps you should take a moment outside of Gaga threads for a change of pace.

Did I say that 131k is a low number? No. I said that people celebrate "too much" about something that was caused by a first week discount and celebrity promotional tweets, plus a lot of promo. But that's not the point. My point is that the album has a low metascore and is not critical acclaimed like people claimed to be in the very beginning.

[Starkboy]

Originally posted by Rusty

By definition as a jazz album it should be higher? That's... an interesting leap past logic.

Well I thought "real music" should get higher scores.

[Blue Momo!]

Originally posted by I'mRihannaFan

Well I thought "real music" should get higher scores.

I though she was gonna win back the GP with the acclaim (at least that's what monsters said).
I guess not At least it's winning a handful of grammys right? does it even have competition?

[Rusty]

Originally posted by alex_katycat

Did I say that 131k is a low number? No. I said that people celebrate "too much" about something that was caused by a first week discount and celebrity promotional tweets, plus a lot of promo. But that's not the point. My point is that the album has a low metascore and is not critical acclaimed like people claimed to be in the very beginning.

Celebrity promotional tweets = the new VMA/Grammy performance when it comes to promo You don't spell it out, but you act like it should have topped the star-filled Duets II album from Tony in 2011, which included Amy's first posthumous release. And 64 remains favorable so it's hardly low, can you not, just for like a day or something.