[Nicole]

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Barbra’s gonna block her next week

[Elusive Chanteuse]

Originally posted by boodytay

No, it's not really okay for humans, regardless of sex, to objectify themselves imo. We are not objects. We are living organisms with minds and emotions. Sexual desire is just one of these many emotions. When we overemphasize it, we start looking more like animals/objects (things that don't have minds/have very small mental ability) who cannot control their sexual instincts and are in constant need of performing/talking about/thinking of any thing sex-related.

When artists overtly sexualize their images, I see their stans using the "She's a sexual person and she's just expressing it" excuse. Please. There's nothing called "she's a sexual person". All human beings are born sexual (i.e. with sexual desires), so is saying "she's a sexual person" supposed to imply that she's a special case and it's okay for her to rid her image of any emotions and characteristics besides sex? 'Cause she's not.

Everyone and everything in society is objectified to a certain point not just women. People are visual creatures. People seem to have replaced the word titillation with objectification.

[Oshiish]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

I guess it's only bad when someone who can ACTUALLY twerk does it

Ummm...






ok

[Giselle]

Originally posted by boodytay

No, it's not really okay for humans, regardless of sex, to objectify themselves imo. We are not objects. We are living organisms with minds and emotions. Sexual desire is just one of these many emotions. When we overemphasize it, we start looking more like animals/objects (things that don't have minds/have very small mental ability) who cannot control their sexual instincts and are in constant need of performing/talking about/thinking of any thing sex-related.

When artists overtly sexualize their images, I see their stans using the "She's a sexual person and she's just expressing it" excuse. Please. There's nothing called "she's a sexual person". All human beings are born sexual (i.e. with sexual desires), so is saying "she's a sexual person" supposed to imply that she's a special case and it's okay for her to rid her image of any emotions and characteristics besides sex? 'Cause she's not.

1. But who are you to decide if someone is objectifying themselves?
2. Some people ARE more sexual than others.
3. You're a gay male, correct? If so, by saying all of this goofy **** you're literally contributing to the system which finds male on male sex "overtly sexual" and is therefore (by your logic) telling you that you are living in an incorrect lifestyle.
4. Your sig is corny as ****.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by Giselle

1. But who are you to decide if someone is objectifying themselves?

More importantly, who are you to tell them how they can and cannot present their bodies?

[Kworb]

Originally posted by Nicole

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Barbra’s gonna block her next week

*Tony Bennett & Lady Gaga (Streamline/Columbia/Interscope) 115-125k
Barbra Streisand (Columbia) 105-115k

Maybe even this week

[Chemist]

Borderline by Madieval is the best song of all time, isn't?

[Nippy'sReceipts]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

The Sexual Revolution began in the 1960s, and it's pretty disingenuous to apply feminist concepts about sex from the early 20th century to the modern day. The entire attitude about sex in society was different then.

Which the majority of feminists at the time opposed which is why the feminist Movement got splintered into different types- because of mixed perspectives on female sexual liberation.

Sl*ts on one side, prudes on the other. The movement is still pretty much a confused and unresolved mess with mixed messages and different groups throughout. Along w. figuring out if women flaunting sexuality is empowering or degrading, they need to figure out if p0rnography is a good or bad thing, why women aren't drafted for Selective Service, why marital last names are embarrassingly still a thing here, why equal pay and maternity leave are not legally guaranteed & why birth control is not over-the-counter like Viagra and condoms are.

[Kworb]

Oh that's what you meant, sorry

[slobro]

Originally posted by Badger

She's one of the most contradictory persons to ever exist

I can't with her

[boodytay]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

Objectifying yourself doesn't literally turn you into an object though. Wearing something risque and shaking your ass doesn't make you less intelligent. The fact that you inherently assume "being sexual = having very small mental ability" is just weird to me. Being "a sexual person" doesn't mean you have no other qualities. Just because someone is an "artistic person" doesn't mean they have no interests besides art. It seems to me like as soon as someone is overtly sexual, you think that's the only thing they can have going for them.

There is definitely such a thing as a "sexual person." I'm far more sexually liberal than the average person. It's not a lie for me to say "I'm a sexual person." But I'm still a lot more than that. Implying that we're all the same sexually or all have the same desires sexually is just wrong.

First of all I did not say "being sexual = having very small mental ability" because as humans we are all sexual beings and we don't have "very small mental abilitly). I said when we overemphazise our sexual desires, we portray ourselves as people who have no other qualities besides their sexual instincts and not interested in anything besides sex, which is basically objectifying ourselves. It's okay to have sex and explore the sexual side of yourself, but when it starts becoming the dominant side of your character, it robs you of the other aspects of your character than need to have more focus on.

And no, I don't believe in this "sexual being" thing. We are all sexual beings (i.e. beings who have sexual desires). We differ in how sexually liberated we are and how strong our sexual desires are, but, in the end, we are all sexual.

And "overt sexualization" is definitely not something to laud. Everything is healthy when it's moderate. I find overt sexualization to be one-dimensional and uncontrolled , just like limited sexualization is repressing and frustrating. Moderate sexualization is the degree of sexual practice and exploration that is physically, mentally and psychologically healthy imo.

[Kworb]

Originally posted by Chemist

Borderline by Madieval is the best song of all time, isn't?

All that song reminds me of is those girls on The Voice Kids who had to sing it and had no idea who Madonna was.

[Remixed]

Originally posted by NOW

She just burned bridges with Zedd, Madeon with that statement.

thank God

[MrBeyonceFan]

41. Nick Jonas - Jealous

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts

Which the majority of feminists at the time opposed which is why the feminist Movement got splintered into different types- because of mixed perspectives on female sexual liberation.

Sl*ts on one side, prudes on the other. The movement is still pretty much a confused and unresolved mess with mixed messages and different groups throughout. Along w. figuring out if women flaunting sexuality is empowering or degrading,

The majority opinion has been empowering since the 60s, but context is key

if p0rnography is a good or bad thing

Studio **** bad, woman-positive and amateur **** good

why women aren't drafted for Selective Service,

Lawmakers and the military are responsible for that, not feminists

why marital last names are embarrassingly still a thing here

Right to choose and honor traditions, since changing your last name doesn't harm your position in society at all

why equal pay and maternity leave are not legally guaranteed

Lawmakers are responsible for that, all feminists want that

& why birth control is not over-the-counter like Viagra and condoms are.

Lawmakers are responsible for that, all feminists want that.

[boodytay]

Originally posted by Giselle

1. But who are you to decide if someone is objectifying themselves?
2. Some people ARE more sexual than others.
3. You're a gay male, correct? If so, by saying all of this goofy **** you're literally contributing to the system which finds male on male sex "overtly sexual" and is therefore (by your logic) telling you that you are living in an incorrect lifestyle.
4. Your sig is corny as ****.

1-I'm an educated, intellectual and opinionated person, and I decide if a person is objectifying themselves according to my education, beliefs and influences. My opinion can be disputed, but you are in no position to imply that I cannot say it.
2-I am aware of that.
3- No, I happen to be straight.
4-Glad you relate to it.

Anything else?

[Nicole]

Why are Nicki fans surprised Jlo’s video isn’t doing better? She’s OLD. Trust me, 15 years from now when Nicki is 50 no one’s gonna wanna look at her since she’s ugly now

[Clump]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

Right to choose and honor traditions, since changing your last name doesn't harm your position in society at all

Tell that to Julia Ghoulia

[Remixed]

Originally posted by Nicole

Why are Nicki fans surprised Jlo’s video isn’t doing better? She’s OLD. Trust me, 15 years from now when Nicki is 50 no one’s gonna wanna look at her since she’s ugly now

The only thing Nicki fans ever talk about are video views nowadays

[Badger]

Ugh not another feminism debate