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Discussion: Is Gaga's new management slaying?
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Originally posted by Bang Up
Katy had her songs in Cover Girl commercials, teamed up with Walmart, had concerts at the Rose Bowl and in Canada, had a PEPSI deal with the VMAs, was on SNL...
You tried, though. Your obsession with Gaga is keeping you from seeing what the other girls are doing.
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So Katy had almost the same intensity of promo, which means Germanotta's people responsible for promo were doing something right and are scapegoated by her and little monsters for the lack of success.
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When this album doesn't even break the top 3 on the BB charts, we'll see.
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Not when G.U.Y. was one of the biggest flops ever by a pop girl.
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How am I making up 'stuff'? 
Germanotta fans all talk about her not having enough promo for Artpop, yet no other pop girl hosted SNL, had a Muppets TV special, special album concert launch (artrave), partnered her album with a big corporate chain like H&M, and had her singles licensed for Beats and Kia commercials... along with the standard tv performances/interviews and award show performances other pop girls do.
For supposedly bad management, there was a lot being done by people to support her.
Which other pop girl had all that behind her pushing their music? |
The fact you hate her and you know ALL that. 
You seem like an intelligent guy, so why invest all of your time in someone you seem to dislike so intensely? Lol. I will NEVER understand.
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Originally posted by tshirt
So Katy had almost the same intensity of promo, which means Germanotta's people responsible for promo were doing something right and are scapegoated by her and little monsters for the lack of success.
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Katy had a Katy Perry day at the biggest radio station channel in the USA (more than 200 stations) a whole day of PRISM songs on the radio and her album sold 20k more in the first week than Gaga.
Let's not Gaga on the other hand had only SNL in her album release week. Katy had 2 more promo spots. Gaga had just fired her manager.
Just the fact that Gaga fired Troy 1-2 weeks before the album release alone means BAD PROMO, BAD MARKETING and definitely BAD PR campaign. But of course to know that you have to have some knowledge on how Marketing and Business works. So I am definitely not judging you 
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Originally posted by tshirt
So Katy had almost the same intensity of promo, which means Germanotta's people responsible for promo were doing something right and are scapegoated by her and little monsters for the lack of success.
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Except, you were trying to shade/drag Gaga for "having more promo than other pop girl" when that just isn't factual information. What you're purposely ignoring is the fact that her team didn't **** up until the DWUW campaign, which came after and/or during all of those promo spots you mentioned. The DWUW campaign is what killed the era, it's momentum, and any chance of it continuing to succeed. Simple as that. Despite that, though, the album was still one of the highest-selling of the year and sold more than 95% of all the albums released in 2013. 
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Originally posted by Bang Up
MTN is definitely a better example, but I was giving examples that have happened over the past year.
GUY had one live performance, though. But I guess it says a lot about the song's performance that you don't remember it. |
I looked "Lady Gaga GUY live" on YouTube and only got Artrave performances
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Originally posted by Bang Up
Except, you were trying to shade/drag Gaga for "having more promo than other pop girl" when that just isn't factual information. What you're purposely ignoring is the fact that her team didn't **** up until the DWUW campaign, which came after and/or during all of those promo spots you mentioned. The DWUW campaign is what killed the era, it's momentum, and any chance of it continuing to succeed. Simple as that. Despite that, though, the album was still one of the highest-selling of the year and sold more than 95% of all the albums released in 2013. |
No. This thread was implying that somehow Germanotta's management is better now because C2C apparently has better promo - I disagreed, she always had plenty of promo. I added to that claim by saying its more that most other pop girls get (true). You came back with Katy Perry having similar promo, which only highlighted Germanotta in fact had a lot and it was comparable to her main competition at the time.
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I looked "Lady Gaga GUY live" on YouTube and only got Artrave performances |
She performed it at Late Show... Same as nothing 
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Not at people saying Gaga's promo for ARTPOP was massive when she kind of took a hiatus during the era. The delusion.
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Originally posted by Mariano
her album sold 20k more in the first week than Gaga.
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Really? I thot Gaga was the album selling kween of the two? 
Anyways, how is it different from her old management? ARTPOP had plenty of promo, too. It's good that they're promoting C2C nonetheless.
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Originally posted by tshirt
I disagreed, she always had plenty of promo. I added to that claim by saying its more that most other pop girls get (true). You came back with Katy Perry having similar promo, which only highlighted Germanotta in fact had a lot and it was comparable to her main competition at the time.
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No, you said it's more than any other pop girl gets.
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Originally posted by tshirt
No. She's done.
The promo for Artpop was extensive. More than any pop girl has done in recent times.
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Originally posted by tshirt
How am I making up 'stuff'?
Germanotta fans all talk about her not having enough promo for Artpop, yet no other pop girl hosted SNL, had a Muppets TV special, special album concert launch (artrave), partnered her album with a big corporate chain like H&M, and had her singles licensed for Beats and Kia commercials... along with the standard tv performances/interviews and award show performances other pop girls do.
For supposedly bad management, there was a lot being done by people to support her.
Which other pop girl had all that behind her pushing their music? |
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Bobby seems to be doing well atm. It's kind of hard to tell with this Jazz album because those types of albums are typically low-key anyway and do not generate radio airplay and VMA performances etc. like a mainstream pop album release would. He seemed to do his best with G.U.Y. even though radio programmers were not here for it and he and Gaga were on their own and not backed by a big agency at the time. If anything he seems like a hard worker, very hands-on and likeable, which is an important trait for business relations IMO.
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Really? I thot Gaga was the album selling kween of the two?
Anyways, how is it different from her old management? ARTPOP had plenty of promo, too. It's good that they're promoting C2C nonetheless. |
Yes she is, that's why her flop album opened with 600k WW which is more than Katy has ever done with an album, including her first week sales of PRISM that were less than 500k .
And in Gaga's case, these 600k are exluding the debut week in Japan which is one of her biggest markets 
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For the record, Miley also hosted and was musical guest on SNL the week of her album release, just like Gaga, which makes tshirt's ridiculous claim immediately invalid based on the fact that he doesn't even bother to research things before typing them
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Originally posted by tshirt
How am I making up 'stuff'?
Germanotta fans all talk about her not having enough promo for Artpop, yet no other pop girl hosted SNL, had a Muppets TV special, special album concert launch (artrave), partnered her album with a big corporate chain like H&M, and had her singles licensed for Beats and Kia commercials... along with the standard tv performances/interviews and award show performances other pop girls do.
For supposedly bad management, there was a lot being done by people to support her.
Which other pop girl had all that behind her pushing their music? |
I am getting tired of you trying to belittle Gaga with such name. Can't you just call her "Gaga"? 
Surely. ARTPOP had got some promo, but it never matched the enormous promotion that BTW had, not even with Katy. The fact that you listed these all promo makes me feels like you are wasting your time checking on her when you can do something better. You always come into this thread or any Gaga related thread and All you do is to put negative in anything, which make you not only hater but also the obsessed with Gaga who will do anything to put her down over very small stuff and even embarrassing yourself.
Do yourself a favor and find some hobbies to do. NEWS FLASH: Hating on Gaga is not a hobbies.
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It doesn't even matter. By the end if the era Gaga will claim that she was depressed for C2C and that her next jazz album will be her first jazz album. She'll fire her current management because they don't get her ARTJAZZ
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Originally posted by tshirt
So Katy had almost the same intensity of promo, which means Germanotta's people responsible for promo were doing something right and are scapegoated by her and little monsters for the lack of success.
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Stop saying Germanotta, you have no clue who Stefani is whatsoever, and it's rude as if you're her close friend.
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I am getting tired of you trying to belittle Gaga with such name. Can't you just call her "Gaga"?
Surely. ARTPOP had got some promo, but it never matched the enormous promotion that BTW had, not even with Katy. The fact that you listed these all promo makes me feels like you are wasting your time checking on her when you can do something better. You always come into this thread or any Gaga related thread and All you do is to put negative in anything, which make you not only hater but also the obsessed with Gaga who will do anything to put her down over very small stuff and even embarrassing yourself.
Do yourself a favor and find some hobbies to do. NEWS FLASH: Hating on Gaga is not a hobbies. |
 Exactly. Do they not have Netflix? Do they not read (by that, I mean actual books, not forums)? Both of those activities have got to be more satisfying and interesting than endlessly hating and arguing with fans that are just trying to discuss an artist of they like. You don't see me running to every Iggy thread even though I dislike her. It truly baffles me. It's sad tbh.
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