[TheRoofInhabitant]

The YTMA were such a wasted opportunity though
She could've at least released dope

[Whiskey Mouth]

I think Venus is more typical Gaga, maybe people would've gotten used to it and bopped just like they did with Applause

But yeah, DWUW just sounds like a better single choice. I think Gaga would've enjoyed performing Venus more, though.

[DonnieDarko]

Originally posted by Gedamara

It sounds unfinished imo. One can tell she wouldve changed some parts if she had more time

Well, somehow, I don't really have the ability to say if a song sounds unfinished or under/over produced. I just take what I get and I like it or not.

Also, the lyrics department - I never take part in those discussions simply beacuse English is my second language. I really have no idea about lyrics and its quality even though I understand English.

Originally posted by Whiskey Mouth

I think Venus is more typical Gaga, maybe people would've gotten used to it and bopped just like they did with Applause

But yeah, DWUW just sounds like a better single choice. I think Gaga would've enjoyed performing Venus more, though.

Yeah, I think so too. Venus is a typical Lady Gaga song and people would most probably appreciate it a bit, but as you've said, DWUW is simply better and a different sound for her and Im more than sure that it would totally smash if released properly along with a video. But let's not go there. I will never find peace with DWUW situation.

[Iris]

Originally posted by Whiskey Mouth

I think Venus is more typical Gaga, maybe people would've gotten used to it and bopped just like they did with Applause

But yeah, DWUW just sounds like a better single choice. I think Gaga would've enjoyed performing Venus more, though.

The live performances of Venus **** all over those of DWUW. I was so pissed when she interrupted Venus during her X factor Britain performance and started singing DWUW. Ugh.

[Iris]

Originally posted by DonnieDarko

Well, somehow, I don't really have the ability to say if a song sounds unfinished or under/over produced. I just take what I get and I like it or not.

Also, the lyrics department - I never take part in those discussions simply beacuse English is my second language. I really have no idea about lyrics and its quality even though I understand English.

I mean when she performs Venus live ( like on Graham Norton) she sometimes sings the last chorus at the top of her lungs so I think she wouldve changed the last chorus if she could + the first prechorus of the second verse

[DonnieDarko]

Originally posted by Gedamara

The live performances of Venus **** all over those of DWUW. I was so pissed when she interrupted Venus during her X factor Britain performance and started singing DWUW. Ugh.

I think it's beacuse she really REALLY loves Venus and I think it is her favourite ARTPOP song (even though she said it's Artpop). The energy and effort she puts in every Venus performance clearly shows that she loves the song. Venus at the artRAVE is amazing.

[eleganceislearned]

Originally posted by Whiskey Mouth

I curious to know what do y'all think would've happened if Venus would've stayed as the 2nd single?

I think promo would've been way more organized since that was already planned, but then again people probably wouldn't have bought the song or would they have thought it's quirky and fun like Bad Romance and embraced it? We'll never know now. Oh, and we'd have 3 videos now

IDK, I used to think it would've flopped hard, but if the noisy awfulness that is Bang Bang can be embraced anything is possible.

[Rusty]

Originally posted by TheRoofInhabitant

The YTMA were such a wasted opportunity though
She could've at least released dope

The YTMA were a MESS of epic proportions. Everything about them was a disaster. They had two massive acts: Gaga and Eminem, yet it managed to just be a disgrace filled with baby abuse and awkward audience reactions to Dope Gaga.

[Whiskey Mouth]

Venus really seems to be Gaga's favorite song. I've been appreciating it more lately too.

Applause, Venus and G.U.Y. were a pretty good single lineup for ARTPOP. DWUW was also good, the only thing it needed was pre-planning. If it was set to be the second single from the beginning, none of this mess would've happened.

The Venus performances were cool. I loved it at artrave and she always goes crazy when performing it, also it would sound so good on the radio.

[Iris]

Too bad this era turned into a mess.
Applause-Venus-DWUW wouldve been a great single trinity

[romonster]

Applause - Venus - DWUW - Sexxx Dreams- Gypsy would've been a nice order to release the singles tbh.

I wish that media blackout during the end of 2013 never happened and all that Troy mess neither

[hairofglory]

She should have performed DWUW at the Youtube Awards and then released the video a week or two later. It's sad her team (and Troy) was such a mess at the time.

[GetYourAssInMyBed]

The fact that there are more KatyKats in the artRAVE box scores thread than monsters

[DonnieDarko]

Originally posted by romonster

Applause - Venus - DWUW - Sexxx Dreams- Gypsy would've been a nice order to release the singles tbh.

I wish that media blackout during the end of 2013 never happened and all that Troy mess neither

I think Sexxx Dreams would not work as a single, unless they would change the lyrics so they could play the song on the radio, which would totally ruin the song for me. The rest is a big yes. Applause, Venus, DWUW and Gypsy. Perfect.

Originally posted by hairofglory

She should have performed DWUW at the Youtube Awards and then released the video a week or two later. It's sad her team (and Troy) was such a mess at the time.

Agreed. It would make the song smash. I have no doubt about it.

[Pixel]

I will never forgive Gaga for ARTPOP (the album), it is complete trash and never deserved to be released. The whole era has been lies, high expectations, and let down... She really lost a lot of my buying power with that mess of an era.

[Iris]

Originally posted by romonster

Applause - Venus - DWUW - Sexxx Dreams- Gypsy would've been a nice order to release the singles tbh.

I wish that media blackout during the end of 2013 never happened and all that Troy mess neither

*sigh*

I'd rather have X dreams stay an album track so she wouldnt have to add those adlibs during the chorus. I think she changed the chorus because she really considered it as a future single and since radio wouldve censored it she added those annoying adlibs so it wouldnt be damaged by the censoring

[Skywalker]

The label had the right idea with her singles (sans G.U.Y.). Venus was never a viable single.

[DonnieDarko]

Originally posted by Freezin

I will never forgive Gaga for ARTPOP (the album), it is complete trash and never deserved to be released.

[Rusty]

Billboard calling ha "The Artpop provocateur"

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[Iris]

Omg do you remember this?