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Originally posted by Komet blu
K, I decided I'll write GaGa with the second 'G' capitalized from now on, come for me, tbh.
About the whole Troy vs GaGa discussion earlier, what I think it happened is that they had different intentions for the era. They seemed to have gone with Troy's one (The App, technology, more urban/mid-tempos, and what not), but GaGa said 'gfy' and started doing things on her own. And things fell somewhere in the middle, which was the messiest and the worst place possible. It made seem like they had no direction, and everything just fell apart. Hopefully, they'll pull themselves together for the next era. And by the look of things for C2C, we're on the right track.  |
We don't really need to theorize what happened because we already know what happened for the most part.
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They seemed to have gone with Troy's one (The App, technology, more urban/mid-tempos, and what not)
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The APP was Troy's idea, and Gaga did jump on the APP train because she thought it was a good idea and would work with ARTPOP. The music, however, was always Gaga and she always has the final say with the music she releases. Although, I'm pretty sure the urban influences on the album were inspired by the fact that DJWS has always been an urban producer and Tara is obsessed with R. Kelly.
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but GaGa said 'gfy' and started doing things on her own.
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Nope. I know it's a popular theory here that Gaga likes to "do everything on her own," but it's not true in this instance and it's actually the complete opposite. Between the time the second single was switched to 'DWUW' and the 'DWUW' video was filmed, Troy disappeared to do things on his own. He struck shady deals with companies using Gaga's name and offered little to no help or insight after changing the single. This, as you can imagine, caused a lot of issues because everything was planned with 'Venus' in mind. Numerous concepts and performances/promos planned that involved 'Venus' had to be completely switched up for 'DWUW', and as you can imagine since the songs are two totally different songs, it was quite difficult to adapt things to fit 'DWUW' (see that UK ad that uses 'DWUW' even though it's obvious that it was filmed with 'Venus' in mind). Troy then showed back up during the filming of 'DWUW' and was on set with Gaga during that time acting like nothing had happened. Gaga was miffed, of course, and that's when their relationship fell apart.
Gaga wants management because she knows how important it is. If she didn't want management, she would be managing herself as opposed to signing a management deal with LiveNation.
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Some monsters are really still creepily depressed from the ARTPOP era. I think it's time to move on!
C2C can definitely do 100k and yes, anything less than that is a bad.
Mess at comparisons to nickelodeon star Ariana's numbers. Gaga pulled numbers way bigger with her flop album so I don't think they're in the same category, sorry.
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This is kind of true, but I still feel like it's odd to have any sort of expectations for the sales. I don't think anything is "good" or "bad" sales-wise (I mean, 20k would be bad but we know it'll sell more than that). Also, you can't compare this album to ARTPOP simply because the majority of her fans aren't going to purchase this album because it's not pop.
C2C's success will rely solely on jazz lovers.
