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Discussion: Would you let your son wear a dress?
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by RomanNavy
I understand but if you KNOW what society is like, why let a lil boy go out there in his dress when you know he's going to return hurt emotionally and possibly physically. Kids are vile and ruthless. Schools/ parents can't do **** about it, but you can. Tell your kid no for his own good.
Yes he will have a loving and supporting family but in the end he'd want a careless and fun childhood. Society is still too conservative and narrow minded, don't let your kid fall victim to it cuz being bullied is no fun.
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Kids are bullied because of mentalities like this
Do you not understand that? You are part of the problem, not the solution. You're not helping by "shielding" anyone from things. You're only passing the problem off to your kid, or brushing it under the carpet, hoping it will go away, at least until he's 18 and has to deal with it himself and you no longer have a responsibility
And you want to say I'm not ready to parent?
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Originally posted by Drais.
Duh which is all the reason to not make any decisions that could bring any more unnecessary harm to them.
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But that could be anything, or anyone? Nobody knows what could happen to them, whether they let their male child wear a dress, or not. That mentality basically means they should never leave the house, as you don't know what could happen.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Honeyßéy
You're not denying him from being himself, as a child he's still learning about
himself. All you're doing is giving him time (18) to make sure if this is what he really wants to
do. Most kids nowadays, are just following what the next kid is doing.
Bullying has cause kids to end their life. Stop it.
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Yes you are. There's people who identify with the opposite gender a lot younger than 18.
Most kids nowadays, are just following what the next kid is doing and this is relevant to the conversation, how? Wearing a dress or identifying as a female is not the latest trend or craze 
Denying a trans person the right to be who they truly are has lead to sucide as well, as has depression from poor mental health.
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Member Since: 1/26/2012
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Originally posted by ReginaPhalange
Yes you are. There's people who identify with the opposite gender a lot younger than 18.
Most kids nowadays, are just following what the next kid is doing and this is relevant to the conversation, how? Wearing a dress or identifying as a female is not the latest trend or craze
Denying a trans person the right to be who they truly are has lead to sucide as well, as has depression from poor mental health. |
This is what you fail to understand, it's a child. A parent knows
what's best for them. It's definitely a lose/lose situation. You can let you're child
tell you what HE wants to wear. You'll be on maury or Jerry Springer in no time.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Yes Regina, educate them 
Studies show that trans kids identify as early as two and three
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Originally posted by Jae
Because when the child turns 18 the parents are no longer entirely responsible for them.
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I knew that's what you were hinting at. You should never have kids if you're already thinking them being 18 and out of your house/responsibility as a valid way of never dealing with any "issues" that arise amongst them
God forbid your future child takes their life at an age younger than 18, because you wouldn't deal with him. Who's the selfish one again? Who's the one looking out for who? Looks like you're more concerned with what people will say about you, than what they'll say about your kid. That's some real ignorance.
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Originally posted by Ryuuchan_X
The posts in this thread make me so angry tbh. My mom is just like y'all, she is so concerned about what everyone else thinks and doesn't give a **** about my happiness. I have to live my whole life in secret and it makes me so depressed. I have all these nice things that I can't even wear outside. I know that society is not accepting of people like me right now, but if I live my life in secret, society will never change. I am prepared to deal with people's harsh words if it means being myself.
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And I bet if you had your mom's support, you wouldn't even be that phased by what passerby's say to you, right?
I think you're so brave sis, if that means anything. You do you 
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Nobody knows what could happen to them, whether they let their male child wear a dress, or not. [/CENTER] |
I think we both obviously know what would happen or do you really think a young boy in a dress would come home from school unscathed every single day?
If people that society labels as "normal" are bullied, teased etc then what do you think will happen to someone who isn't seen as "normal" and then dresses in a way that most people aren't comfortable with or used to being around? People fear what they don't understand and most of them react in a negative way.
It isn't about denying your child anything or making them unhappy. As a parent you're constantly worried about your child's well being and safety. Making a decision that WILL bring harm to them is no different from making them a target.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Kids are bullied because of mentalities like this
Do you not understand that? You are part of the problem, not the solution. You're not helping by "shielding" anyone from things. You're only passing the problem off to your kid, or brushing it under the carpet, hoping it will go away, at least until he's 18 and has to deal with it himself and you no longer have a responsibility
And you want to say I'm not ready to parent?
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I understand if we'd ALL be like that, but me allowing my kid to wear a dress is not gonna change society for one bit. I can be like yeah look at me I'm a good parent my kid can be whoever he wants to be..... But that's not gonna make the rest of the world more accepting.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Wilkes
I thought people on here were supposed to be open minded and accepting. If he's happy and it's what he wants to do then what is the problem, what harm is a boy wearing a dress going to do?
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at least you should explain to him how people may/will react.
on a different note, girl are you from wilkes barre pa?
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Member Since: 6/1/2012
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Originally posted by Goosey
No way in hell! Dresses are women's clothing! |
uhh clothes don't have gender, they're literally just made out of cotton and polyester. why do you care who wears what?
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Originally posted by nd01
well idk he could be bullied, beat up, cussed at, and alienated by his friends. but yeah it can't hurt at all.
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"but that's only because people are raised like that!!!!"
Is what I'm expecting even though it isn't true.
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Member Since: 3/19/2012
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Originally posted by judaskills
Lol at this blatant reinforcement of gender and gender roles. Who says dresses are woman's clothing? Society? In a way, I'm really shocked at some of the responses on here, you'd think since a lot of the members here are gay or bi, they'd have more open minds... but then again I'm not really surprised.
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Really now  y'all know a dress is woman's clothing! No son of mine would be allowed to wear one. Same thing with Barbie dolls etc.
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Member Since: 5/3/2012
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Nope. He will dress as a male.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Drais.
I think we both obviously know what would happen or do you really think a young boy in a dress would come home from school unscathed every single day?
If people that society labels as "normal" are bullied, teased etc then what do you think will happen to someone who isn't seen as "normal" and then dresses in a way that most people aren't comfortable with or used to being around? People fear what they don't understand and most of them react in a negative way.
It isn't about denying your child anything or making them unhappy. As a parent you're constantly worried about your child's well being and safety. Making a decision that WILL bring harm to them is no different from making them a target.
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You don't have to be bringing your male child to school in a dress for them to come home scathed daily. Kids bully kids over the stupidest things. Over their hair colour, over their clothes, over their glasses, over their taste in music, over what they buy for lunch, over how they speak, over where they're from. Should any of that happen, are you telling me that you would tell your kid to dye their hair, get new clothes, wear contacts, change what they listen too, eat differently, speak differently and lie about where they live - all so they can be "accepted" by a bunch of neanderthals? That's so sad. What are you instilling into your kid by teaching them that bullies have the upper hand?
Sometimes (most times) that worry overrides what is logical and makes you act irrationally, in a way that's more upsetting to the child. And no sorry, making a decision that could bring them harm isn't the child's fault. That's no better than blaming a girl for being raped because she wore a short skirt/skintight clothing. Get outta here with that mentality
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It's a good thing most of you losers only talk about popstars on here because so many of you are so ****ing stupid when it comes to the real world. You all must have had such awful parents and gone to horrible schools 
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Originally posted by Goosey
Really now y'all know a dress is woman's clothing! No son of mine would be allowed to wear one. Same thing with Barbie dolls etc. |
You'd make a terrible parent. Lets just leave it at that. "Omg no put down that barbie, that's a girl's toy... you can only play with trucks!"
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Honeyßéy
This is what you fail to understand, it's a child. A parent knows
what's best for them. It's definitely a lose/lose situation. You can let you're child
tell you what HE wants to wear. You'll be on maury or Jerry Springer in no time.
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This is what you fail to understand, only that child truly knows how he feels. What's best for you child is giving them unconditional love and allowing them to be what they feel inside.
But this is where I'm going to stop debating with you as I'm clearly dealing with someone very ignorant and close minded. I hope you choose never to have kids
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by RomanNavy
I understand if we'd ALL be like that, but me allowing my kid to wear a dress is not gonna change society for one bit. I can be like yeah look at me I'm a good parent my kid can be whoever he wants to be..... But that's not gonna make the rest of the world more accepting.
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that's right! people on this forum are so naive and think everyone is as accepting as they are and that they can change an entire group of peoples perspective on men dressing in women's clothes.
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Kids bully kids over the stupidest things. Over their hair colour, over their clothes, over their glasses, over their taste in music, over what they buy for lunch, over how they speak, over where they're from. |
Right and you throwing a dress on a boy is just giving people another thing to bully him about, which is my point.
IDK why you can't seem to grasp the fact that you're making a decision that WILL only result in negativity from other people.
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Member Since: 9/12/2012
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Okay so I read these past few pages...
Yeah, people should teach their kids to be more accepting of others, and to keep their hands to themselves. In a perfect world, it would happen. However, this doesn't happen. There will ALWAYS be bigoted people preaching their hate to their kids, and it spewing into the next generation. This next generation will be the one making the child who just wants to be theirself's life miserable.
If my son came and told me that he was a female and wanted to be one on the outside, I'd firstly take them out of public school and seek proper advice and guidance from a specialized therapist. I'd be welcoming to their decision and would whole-heartedly support them.
Now, if my son wanted to stay my son, but just wanted to wear a dress in public, no. Not by any fault of his own, but because not every parent on this planet is going to raise their children to not hurt mine.
People here are saying that if someone would want to bully someone else, they would regardless of circumstance. However, that doesn't mean give the bullies ammunition and tell them to fire away. Rather, you take the ammunition away so they have nothing left to use.
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