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Fan Base: Archived: Stand Your Ground (#8)
Member Since: 3/30/2009
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Originally posted by TheNight
What Happened to Katy's Team?
This is a serious question, as I am not a stan of Katy and thus do not keep up with any behind the scenes info that comes to light.
Her singles were so perfectly released and managed during the Teenage Dream era. She had six #1's with an additional two Top 3's. This era started out strong with the smash hit that was Roar, and the strong reception to Dark Horse when it was released as a promotional single indicated that her streak of #1's would continue, but then...Unconditionally happened. Now, I personally love the song, and it was a moderate hit in the US in the end (#14 peak, 1,000,000 in sales, VEVO Certified video, etc.), but it was an obvious step down compared to her previous hits. Lack of promo was absolutely not the problem here, nor was a lack of radio support, so I'm not really sure what happened here. I don't think her team is to blame on this one. If anything, they could have repeated tactics from the previous era and discounted and remixed the song, but the latter may not have worked as well since this was a more mature single. Thankfully, they were smart enough to see that Dark Horse was begging to smash, and it rightfully did upon release. No problems there.
But then Birthday happened, and this is where, in my opinion, things started to get messy. For God knows what reason, they released the video before any promo and before the song had built up some strength on radio. Radio was already starting to play the song regularly even before the song was officially announced as a single, so it would have steadily made its way up iTunes from radio support alone had they given the song some time. Releasing the video so early really took away any benefit the song would have received from streaming points combined with high radio audience. I could see the song at least scraping the Top 10 of the Hot 100 if they had played it out this way. And then there's the almost complete lack of promotion. Only one performance of the song? Obviously that wasn't enough, and I think anyone on this site could have foretold that. I know she's on tour, but I'm sure they could have squeezed in a few promotional performances here and there. The last issue with this single was the remix. With Birthday, they decided to go back to the Teenage Dream route, releasing a Cash Cash remix in hopes of boosting the song's commercial performance. While I do applaud their efforts there, the problem was that, to my knowledge - and I could be wrong here - the iTunes release of the remix wasn't even announced - it just kind of happened. That may work for new music (see Beyoncé's latest album), but not for a remix of a fourth single. The song was still a moderate hit in the end, peaking at #17 in the US, but that's nowhere near where a typical Katy single should peak.
And now we have This Is How We Do. They already made the same mistake with the video as they did for Birthday, and it seems that they're already trying to push a remix for the song (although I've heard that could just be for the remix album for the single, to come later), but hopefully they actually get Katy some promotional spots with this single.
Again, I'm not even a stan of hers and this hurts to see. I really hope people don't see this as a shady post, because it's not meant to be. It's just sad for me to see someone who easily pulled eight Top 3's out of her last album have a hard time scraping the Top 20 with her last single, especially when it's arguably due to poor marketing and not the material itself. So I repeat the question: what happened to her team? Did she get a new one, or did a few members leave and a few join? What happened?
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The Monsters their dedication. 
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Member Since: 6/22/2011
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Yes, Nicki is completely useless. Her verse were so basic.
Nicki, Bey, be eatin’ diamond fangs, barbarian, ah)
Yo, like MJ doctor, they killing me
Propofol, I know they hope I fall
But tell ‘em winning is my mother****in’ protocol
‘Cause I score before I ever throw the ball
These bitches washed up and ain’t no ****in’ soap involved, uh
Like what ?
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"I'm the ****, I'm the ****, I'm the ****, I'm the ****"

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Originally posted by Pop pop123
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That doesn't include the 2013 releases that sold more than Ultraviolence in 2014. She won't make the Top 10 of IFPI.

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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Kworb
Nothing is worse than a rapper listing countries they don't know anything about only because they rhyme

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she said that bc of her weaves 
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Member Since: 10/14/2011
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Wtf @ "like MJ doctor, you're killing me"
Bén has even managed to drag Nicki's feature quality down. His power.
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Member Since: 3/30/2009
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Originally posted by MrBeyonceFan
Yes, Nicki is completely useless. Her verse were so basic.
Nicki, Bey, be eatin’ diamond fangs, barbarian, ah)
Yo, like MJ doctor, they killing me
Propofol, I know they hope I fall
But tell ‘em winning is my mother****in’ protocol
‘Cause I score before I ever throw the ball
These bitches washed up and ain’t no ****in’ soap involved, uh
Like what ?
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That line is so inappropriate for a pro-feminism song. 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Nicki completely takes the life out of it with her snail pace rapping. By the end it just plods off into nowhere.
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Member Since: 3/6/2011
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Originally posted by Duca
The Monsters their dedication. 
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They do the most.
Not a novel?
btw speaking of, where can i illegally download shades of grey 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Rih wouldn't touch that remix, and Nicki needed it badly after PNP, Anaconda

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Member Since: 3/30/2009
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Originally posted by Pop pop123
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bestselling female album of 2014 =/= bestselling female album released in 2014
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Member Since: 6/22/2011
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Originally posted by Duca
That line is so inappropriate for a pro-feminism song. 
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ugh, her flow just sucks.
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Someone make Bey's solo version ?
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Fenty The Great
Rih wouldn't touch that remix, and Nicki needed it badly after PNP, Anaconda

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PnP was good & Anaconda is a flawless BOP.

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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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I've watched some of this film ''Megan Is Missing''  The ending  WHY? I warn you, don't watch it 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Duca
The Monsters their dedication. 
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I always read those essays but this time is said no, this is just too much 
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Member Since: 6/22/2011
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I got all these hundreds, you got all them fifties

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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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yeah
bey killed nicki on the song
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Originally posted by BobBertran1992
I've watched some of this film ''Megan Is Missing''  The ending  WHY? I warn you, don't watch it 
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I know scarred for life 
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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only yall RPF attack Nicki though
Like the BET award performance...no one really dragged it like yall did
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by G.U.Y. Gaga
I know scarred for life 
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I wanna have a boyfriend who hugs me when I see this kind of stuff
Let me watch the new Nekci Menji episode 
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