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News: Israeli-Palestinian conflict
Member Since: 6/25/2008
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Originally posted by Romaysae
Ugh shut up. The real terrorists are the zionists. And you guys stole Palestine.
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When someone reply to an arguement is "shut up", that's the real sign that the same person should actually SHUT UP..
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Yaelilol
shut up if you don't have nothing to say. "stole from palestine" palestine never exist and never defined as a legal country.
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This is the kind of sick mentality that people are using to advocate genocide. The Palestinians are real people, they lived on that land for thousands of years, please don't reply to me if you are going to state such claims. By the way, assuming the Palestinians have no rights and were simply labelled Palestinians by the British, the same argument would suggest that Israel does not have the right to exist since it was co-created by Britain in 1948.
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Member Since: 6/25/2008
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Originally posted by CakeLike
This is the kind of sick mentality that people are using to advocate genocide. The Palestinians are real people, they lived on that land for thousands of years, please don't reply to me if you are going to state such claims. By the way, assuming the Palestinians have no rights and were simply labelled Palestinians by the British, the same argument would suggest that Israel does not have the right to exist since it was co-created by Britain in 1948.
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Once upon a time.. There where no countries. There was just land.
That was Palestine. A Piece of land who had people living in it.
It was never a country. People come and go, conquering it. From British to Turkis.
We came, we conquered and we started a country. Just like many people did, many times before.
So tell me what's the difference?That we're jewish?
Because I don't understand why people act as if the way Israel was created is something new to the world.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
Once upon a time.. There where no countries. There was just land.
That was Palestine. A Piece of land who had people living in it.
It was never a country. People come and go, conquering it. From British to Turkis.
We came, we conquered and we started a country. Just like many people did, many times before.
So tell me what's the difference?That we're jewish?
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Oh so because other people have done this is the past it somehow excuses Israels crimes today? Do you expect people to allow your country to kill and bomb innocents because "many people did many times before". Your justifications are getting pathetic at this point tbh. It has nothing to do with the fact that your jewish, but everything to do with the fact that you insist on justifying the murders of innocents
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Member Since: 3/25/2009
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Originally posted by BadMonster
I can imagine Hamas is not going to respect the cease fire when enemy forces are still on their land. I'd shoot enemies on my soil as well if they had no right to be there. Israelian forces should've retreated and been on their own land the moment the cease fire started, if Hamas had attacked then they would've been in the wrong
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But Hammas DID accept a ceasefire with enemy soldiers on their land. They accepted a ceasefire that had continued tunnel destruction as a clause.
If they did not intend to respect it, they shouldn't have accepted it.
They have proven themselves not to be trusted and I can't see why Israel would ever enter negotiations with them again.
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Member Since: 6/25/2008
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Originally posted by CakeLike
Oh so because other people have done this is the past it somehow excuses Israels crimes today? Do you expect people to allow your country to kill and bomb innocents because "many people did many times before". Your justifications are getting pathetic at this point tbh. It has nothing to do with the fact that your jewish, but everything to do with the fact that you insist on justifying the murders of innocents
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How did we go from stealing land to innocent people getting killed.
You can't even stay on your own topic.
And I am the one starting to be pathetic..
I'm tired that you're saying I justify innocent people getting killed. I clearly never said that in my post or any other post for that matter.
If I could report you for saying lies and putting words in my mouth, I would. Cuz' this is starting to get annoying.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 12,457
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
How did we go from stealing land to innocent people getting killed.
You can't even stay on your own topic.
And I am the one starting to be pathetic..
I'm tired that you're saying I justify innocent people getting killed. I clearly never said that in my post or any other post for that matter.
If I could report you for saying lies and putting words in my mouth, I would. Cuz' this is starting to get annoying.
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Israel stealing land results in innocents being killed, the fact that you can not see that it is the same topic is not my fault. The countless illegal israeli settlers that are stealing land and building illegal settlements are ultimately what results in no hope for peace. You already stated that you support what the IDF is doing in palestine, those were your words not mine, if you are siding with those that are killing innocents and justifying murdering children because of "hamas" then please to not act surprised when you get called out on it.
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Member Since: 5/29/2011
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Originally posted by Yaelilol
shut up if you don't have nothing to say. "stole from palestine" palestine never exist and never defined as a legal country.
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Just like you are a fake Israeli, you're just an European who speaks Hebrew. The real Israelites weren't white.
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Member Since: 5/29/2011
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
When someone reply to an arguement is "shut up", that's the real sign that the same person should actually SHUT UP..
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Don't quote me zionist.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by Yaelilol
i'm 22 .
During 14 years they throwing rockets from gaza strip.
and your point is ?
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I wouldnt have guessed that you are older than 14 after reading your comments. Thats my point.
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Member Since: 3/25/2009
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Originally posted by CakeLike
Israel stealing land results in innocents being killed, the fact that you can not see that it is the same topic is not my fault. The countless illegal israeli settlers that are stealing land and building illegal settlements are ultimately what results in no hope for peace. You already stated that you support what the IDF is doing in palestine, those were your words not mine, if you are siding with those that are killing innocents and justifying murdering children because of "hamas" then please to not act surprised when you get called out on it.
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There aren't any settlements in Gaza. The IDF forcibly removed all Israeli citizens from Gaza when they unilaterally handed it over to palestinian control in 2005.
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Member Since: 3/25/2009
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Originally posted by Bríseis
I wouldnt have guessed that you are older than 14 after reading your comments. Thats my point.
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So you just wanted to be rude. Great contribution to the thread.
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Ops, it seems this will escalate soon.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Bibliotheque
There aren't any settlements in Gaza. The IDF forcibly removed all Israeli citizens from Gaza when they unilaterally handed it over to palestinian control in 2005.
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I was referring to the illegal settlements in the west bank etc.
You can't claim you want peace whilst continuing to steal their land illegally
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Member Since: 6/25/2008
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Originally posted by CakeLike
Israel stealing land results in innocents being killed, the fact that you can not see that it is the same topic is not my fault. The countless illegal israeli settlers that are stealing land and building illegal settlements are ultimately what results in no hope for peace. You already stated that you support what the IDF is doing in palestine, those were your words not mine, if you are siding with those that are killing innocents and justifying murdering children because of "hamas" then please to not act surprised when you get called out on it.
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Don't say I said something like that unless it's qouted. Got that?
Cuz' there's something called context. First of all.
Second of all, I always, ALWAYS, say in my post that I do not justify any innocent people getting killed. Nor I like the idea of any person getting killed.
At last, just the fact that you put Hamas in qoutes, makes me not wanna answer you, cuz' the same Hamas you are trying to picture as I dunno, you tell me?
Is doing the same as what you are saying IDF is doing, which is killing innoncent people.
Yet, you seem to justify them.. So I guess that's okay for them to do but not for Israel.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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Originally posted by Bibliotheque
But Hammas DID accept a ceasefire with enemy soldiers on their land. They accepted a ceasefire that had continued tunnel destruction as a clause.
If they did not intend to respect it, they shouldn't have accepted it.
They have proven themselves not to be trusted and I can't see why Israel would ever enter negotiations with them again.
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Israeli's could destroy the tunnels from their own land though, cuz if they don't end up on their land they shouldn't be a problem. There was no reason why the Israeli's were on Palestinian grounds + I feel the Israeli's fighting don't really hunt Hamas, but rather anything Palestinian
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by Bibliotheque
So you just wanted to be rude. Great contribution to the thread.
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I have tried to have a serious debate about this topic on this forum, but the amount of stupidity and immaturity was overwhelming, so now Im just lurking and shaking my head in disbelief when I see how brainwashed, prejudiced and hateful some members are.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
Don't say I said something like that unless it's qouted. Got that?
Cuz' there's something called context. First of all.
Second of all, I always, ALWAYS, say in my post that I do not justify any innocent people getting killed. Nor I like the idea of any person getting killed.
At last, just the fact that you put Hamas in qoutes, makes me not wanna answer you, cuz' the same Hamas you are trying to picture as I dunno, you tell me?
Is doing the same as what you are saying IDF is doing, which is killing innoncent people.
Yet, you seem to justify them.. So I guess that's okay for them to do but not for Israel.
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Ok please provide me with the context in which killing innocents is justified? I seem to have missed that lesson in humanity.
I put hamas in quotes because of how you seem to be blaming hamas for this mess yet you are complacent in justifying these crimes by stating things like
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We came, we conquered and we started a country. Just like many people did, many times before.
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Do you seriously think thinking like this is helping anyone? Just because it may have happened in the past doesn't excuse what israel is doing TODAY.
I'm not justifying hamas, yet you seem to be justifying the IDF because "many people did , many times before". what they are doing to the Palestinians.
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Member Since: 3/25/2009
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Originally posted by CakeLike
I was referring to the illegal settlements in the west bank etc.
You can't claim you want peace whilst continuing to steal their land illegally |
I think the settlements are wrong but if the palestinians had accepted any of the numerous two state proposals then they wouldn't be there.
In the past Israel has given up land in return for peace with surrounding countries. I truly believe that all they want is to live in peace with their neighbours.
Hamas's founding charter calls for the obliteration of Israel.
How can Israel negotiate with that?
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Member Since: 3/25/2009
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Originally posted by BadMonster
Israeli's could destroy the tunnels from their own land though, cuz if they don't end up on their land they shouldn't be a problem. There was no reason why the Israeli's were on Palestinian grounds + I feel the Israeli's fighting don't really hunt Hamas, but rather anything Palestinian
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None of this excuses agreeing to a ceasefire and then going back on it.
50 Palestinians died today because they, like Israel, thought a ceasefire meant no attacks and that they'd be safe to survey the wreckage and get fresh supplies. Hamas is responsible for their deaths.
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