[jayyyxtee]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

Pretty much, which is why BEYONCÉ is a non-factor. The only albums that are immediately recognizable to your 'average Joe' are Thriller, The Dark Side of the Moon, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Born in the USA.......maybe The Immaculate Collection (the name itself is pretty memorable), Nevermind in some circles......and......?? ?? People remember the songs, not the albums 99% of the time.

I was on the subway last week and I was listening to janet. and someone saw and asked me what my favorite song by her was

[Kool_Aid_King]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

Pretty much, which is why BEYONCÉ is a non-factor. The only albums that are immediately recognizable to your 'average Joe' are Thriller, The Dark Side of the Moon, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Born in the USA.......maybe The Immaculate Collection (the name itself is pretty memorable), Nevermind in some circles......and......?? ?? People remember the songs, not the albums 99% of the time.

Oh shut up. People in my age group mostly know The Beatles albums because they actually TEACH us about that in school.

[iHype.]

Originally posted by Deemy

And "Butterfly" had "My All" and "Honey" . Which besides from the Christmas song are a few of the only songs you can hear from mariah on any radio station any random of the week.

Recurrent Airplay:

Audience - Spins - Song

3,608,000 - 501 - Always Be My Baby
670,000 - 97 - Fantasy

2,362,000 - 375 - We Belong Together
1,093,000 - 126 - Shake it Off

738,000 - 144 - Dreamlover
696,000 - 123 - Hero

....
217,000 - 10 - My All
84,000 - 17 - Honey
4,000 - 4 - Butterfly

Butterfly always loses to Music Box, Daydream, and Emancipation in every way.

[Pop pop123]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

This is before Mariah and her middle of the road remixes were even a thought.

The '80s created the remix, not Mariah. Stay uneducated.

You >>> the critics

[Nippy'sReceipts]

Originally posted by iHype.

She lost half her sales, she lost her gloabl support, her songs did horrible on Pop, and her image became controversial.

It's true.

butterfly was mariah's most well received album since her debut.
people were happy to see her shed her saccharine AC sound and look w/ that album.
the media was sick of her oversinging and happy when she adopted that breathy rap-singing she still does. that was when she FIRST started doing it so it came as a breath of fresh air

funny how now it's the opposite and people tell her to put clothes on and stop whispering

[Vin]

Speaking of another EPIC remix that's better than Mary J Blige's entire discography:



From the L to the O! To the V to the E!
Where the guys are strong, and the girls are FREEEEE!



How did Ameriie pull this monumental retro record off? Poor Mary.

...Vin

[NewRihannaStan]

Daydream is critically acclaimed ..!!

[Kool_Aid_King]

Originally posted by iHype.

Daydream she got a little more control for herself, so she likes it the most of her pre-Butterfly albums.

She got to direct the Fantasy video, she got to have a remix with ODB, and she got to have a lot more personal songs and such on the album which is why she likes it compared to her other early albums.

But she still likely prefers Butterfly, Emancipation, Elusive, etc over most her early stuff.

I agree 100%.

Fantasy (Remix) remains the most important song in her career

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by Pop pop123

Mariah Carey relations with Tommy M really hindered her critical appeal back in the 90s

*sings ****ed My Way Up To The Top*

Hmmm no it was more the fact that she was singing generic, toothless MOR ballads. Once she started going hip hop her music became more interesting.

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by Pop pop123

You >>> the critics

Exactly, because I don't lie.

Can you argue it? You said she "invented" it.

Invent - create or design (something that has not existed before); be the originator of.

How are you going to "invent" something that was already here before you became a thing? Up out of my face.

[Pop pop123]

Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts

butterfly was mariah's most well received album since her debut.
people were happy to see her shed her saccharine AC sound and look w/ that album.
the media was sick of her oversinging and happy when she adopted that breathy rap-singing she still does. that was when she FIRST started doing it so it came as a breath of fresh air

Butterfly was PANNED tho, was it not?

Daydream was her most acclaim album.

[NewRihannaStan]

Sidenote .. Rainbow is so underrated her third best album

[Pop pop123]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

Hmmm no it was more the fact that she was singing generic, toothless MOR ballads. Once she started going hip hop her music became more interesting.

Tell that to Celine and Norah jones with her boring ass album.

[Pop pop123]

Butterfly was panned... I'm sure of it

But It was later recognized as her best work.


This happens a lot with artist with lengthy career.

[Elusive Chanteuse]

Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts

butterfly was mariah's most well received album since her debut.
people were happy to see her shed her saccharine AC sound and look w/ that album.
the media was sick of her oversinging and happy when she adopted that breathy rap-singing she still does. that was when she FIRST started doing it so it came as a breath of fresh air

funny how now it's the opposite and people tell her to put clothes on and stop whispering

!!!

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King

Oh shut up. People in my age group mostly know The Beatles albums because they actually TEACH us about that in school.

Hmm this is really debatable but anyway the fact that they teach you about The Beatles in school = impact. Their legacy is still living on, their music is still being listened to and talked about, even if it's in school. They also have 42 million Facebook likes, more than Coldplay!

[NewRihannaStan]

Butterfly wasn't panned .

Daydream is her most critically acclaimed album ...

[BobBertran1992]

Originally posted by Pop pop123

Mariah Carey relations with Tommy M really hindered her critical appeal back in the 90s

*sings ****ed My Way Up To The Top*

Poor Thalía

[Kool_Aid_King]

Originally posted by NewRihannaStan

Sidenote .. Rainbow is so underrated her third best album

You spelled Second Worst wrong.

Rainbow has the worst songs she's ever recorded (Besides Loverboy)

X-Girlfriend
Thank God I Found People To Sing With Me So I Can Get a #1
After Tonight (I'll stop rehashing my Old songs)
How Much Does It Take To Get Out Of My Contract With Sony

The fact that Mariah stans praise this album she recorded in 2 weeks or something. It was literally a filler album. She only released it to get outta her contract with Sony.

[Pop pop123]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

Exactly, because I don't lie.

Can you argue it? You said she "invented" it.

Invent - create or design (something that has not existed before); be the originator of.

How are you going to "invent" something that was already here before you became a thing? Up out of my face.

Re recorded vocals and sample remix interpolation was not here before Mariah.

J.Lo also played her part by copying Mariah further popularizing it.