But there are no points of view, there are facts. There is no such a thing as "Palestine", Hamas is a terror organization, and Israel is not based on terror and so, we are one of the worlds most humanitarian places. What other country would build an hospital for their injured in the state of "war"?
I just wet my pants from laughter
Every country would build a hospital for their injured in a state of war
Israel is not even in the top half of most humanitarian countries in the world and yes, you are based on terror
Which country do you live in? Jordan? Egypt? did you forget that you attacked us on the first the day the country was legally declared? don't be blind,
My country is Lebanon.
I'm not blind to see what Israel had done to Lebanon, but you obviously ignore it or even try to justify several massacres as "self-defense"
Every country would build a hospital for their injured in a state of war
Israel is not even in the top half of most humanitarian countries in the world and yes, you are based on terror
I still can't believe that you think that Israel is based on terror. You said you studied Israel's history. Is that what they teach you there?
The afterwit is that the Palestinian people have more blood of the 12 original Jewish tribes than the Jewish Israeli people himself.
Who were the Palestinians? The population who hadn't go for the last diaspora in 135 ad, most of them the former Jewish peasants who would become muslims in 636 ad.
What a mess.
Who cares about history? The fact is both the palestinians and israelies are there and they're not leaving. The whole who owns the land question is so pointless.
Sis, when the League of Nations mentions a country called Palestine in a statement about the creation of a home for jews than you can bet your ass there was a country called Palestine, they are the official organization when it comes to official countries... You denying that does not change it... it's not like this statement was later written down, it is literally from the year they claim it's from
Give me true sources for a country called Palestine, if there was such a country, how would you answer these questions:
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If you consider Palestine to be a "Sovereign" and "Independent" country that goes back through most of recorded history as many would have you to believe, then a few questions need to be answered:
When was it founded and by whom?
What were its borders?
What was its capital?
Who was the President?
What was its form of government?
What were its major cities?
What constituted the basis of its economy?
Who was the Palestinian leader before Yasser Arafat?
Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?
What was the language of the country of Palestine?
What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine?
What was the name of its currency and what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, or Japanese yen on any particular date?
And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?
If these so-called "Palestinians" are anything but a generic collection of Arabs from all over the rest of the Arab world and if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, then why did they never try to become an independent and sovereign nation until Arabs suffered their devastating defeat in the Six Day War in 1967?
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The "Palestinian People" have an historic connection to the land.
This is very interesting since there is no such thing as a "Palestinian People". When the Romans changed the name of Israel to Palestine, the people living there at the time were Jews, not Arabs. If there had been a "Palestinian People", which there never was, they would have been Jews.
The Palestinian People have been in the land from time immemorial.
For centuries pre-Israel Palestine was a forgotten, desolate wasteland inhabited by a remnant of Jews, along with some Christians and wandering Bedouins who certainly had no thought of a national identity of any kind.
There were no Jews in Palestine until Israel became a state in 1948.
The Romans officially banished the Jews from Israel (Palestine) in 135 CE. However, historical records show there was always a Jewish presence in the land. While many were scattered, other Jews simply moved out of harm's way until a less hostile power ruled the land. Jews were returning to what is now Israel well before 1948. Many left Russia after the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917.
Arabs and Jews lived in harmony before Israel became a state.
Throughout the centuries, Jews as well as Christians, living under Islamic rule suffered persecution and humiliation, the intensity of which was determined by the character of a particular Moslem ruler. As second-class citizens, there was never a "good time" for non-Muslims living under Islamic rule. Because of the way that most Islamic countries look down on non-Muslims, they are always considered second-class citizens and less than equal. Arabs have rarely lived in harmony with anyone if they were the majority.
The returning Jews displaced the Palestinian Arabs
The ancestors of most of the present-day Arab population migrated to the land after Jewish pioneers began to reclaim the land. They came from many different countries and were not original inhabitants of the land.
The Jews stole Arab land
Jews returning to the land settled on unclaimed, unoccupied land or bought land from absentee Arab landowners at outrageously high prices. This is a matter of record.
The Jews forced Arabs to flee Palestine
When Israel was declared a state in 1948, leaders from the surrounding Arab countries declared war on Israel and instructed the Arab civilians living in the land to flee until the Jews were annihilated. Israeli leaders, to no avail, urged the Arabs to stay. Property that they owned was abandoned.
The Jews caused the Arab refugee problem
If Arab countries would assimilate and care for the "Palestinian" refugees, as Israel did for their Jewish refugees, there would be no refugee problem. Instead they use the refugees as political pawns in their struggle against Israel. No Arab country that wants "Palestinian Arabs" in their country as they would rather use the "Palestinian Arabs" as pawns rather than assimilate them into their populations and bring peace to the Middle East.
Israel is the aggressor against defenseless Palestinians
In its brief history, Israel has had one war after another and each time they are blamed as the aggressor. The Arabs do not recognize the right of Israel to exist and are in a constant state of hostility against Israel. Their aim is to destroy Israel.
Jerusalem is holy to Muslims
While Jerusalem is mentioned over eight hundred times in the Bible, it is not mentioned one time in the Koran. Muslims have had little or no interest in Jerusalem until the Jewish presence in modern times.
My country is Lebanon.
I'm not blind to see what Israel had done to Lebanon, but you obviously ignore it or even try to justify several massacres as "self-defense"
It's no use arguing with Israeli's...ever since WWII they think they are entitled to the entire world and scream antisemitism when you disagree with them on the smallest matter.. they abuse their role of the victim, but we are all new generations and even though it was a tragedy, they should get over it tbh... They feel attacked constantly, just like a lot of minorities in the US
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I still can't believe that you think that Israel is based on terror. You said you studied Israel's history. Is that what they teach you there?
It's what we see daily on the news, all those terrorist attacks on Palestine, killing innocent and wounded civilians, it's disgusting... You guys should just settle for the land you were officially given and give the rest back to the Palestinians
But there are no points of view, there are facts. There is no such a thing as "Palestine", Hamas is a terror organization, and Israel is not based on terror and so, we are one of the worlds most humanitarian places. What other country would build an hospital for the other side injured in the state of "war"? not only for the innocent, but for Hamas people as well. lol.
Not considering Palestine a country is your point of view. Not considering Israel a country is my point of view.
There's one for ya.
Give me true sources for a country called Palestine, if there was such a country, how would you answer these questions:
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Before you quote me again, these are facts .
Where are your sources?
I spot so many lies in this.
Jews and Muslims NEVER lived in harmony! I don't know where you come from but here in Lebanon we are always under continuous threat to be attacked by Israel.
The Jew-Muslim fued dues way back into the birth of both religions.
Who ever wrote those was feeling extra-inspired to write such fiction.
There funny thing is that Israel's existance is even negotiable to them
Like, really?
It's indeed odd.
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I just wet my pants from laughter
Every country would build a hospital for their injured in a state of war
Israel is not even in the top half of most humanitarian countries in the world and yes, you are based on terror
It's totally funny, because I don't see the US built an hospital in Iraq for the injured from Iraq,
and acting as the most humanitarian place in the world. They also did some very in-humanitarian things along the history, I am sure you don't need me to remind you, but in short. Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the invasion to Iraq, what they did to the Indians when they first came. They are not perfect as well, and they did everything to defend themselves, like we do , why aren't you attacking them? what about Syria, more than 1400 people killed in there in the last 2 weeks, and you didn't even say a word on it.
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My country is Lebanon.
I'm not blind to see what Israel had done to Lebanon, but you obviously ignore it or even try to justify several massacres as "self-defense"
It's totally funny, because I don't see the US built an hospital in Iraq for the injured from Iraq,
and acting as the most humanitarian place in the world. They also did some very in-humanitarian things along the history, I am sure you don't need me to remind you, but in short. Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the invasion to Iraq, what they did to the Indians when they first came. They are not perfect as well, and they did everything to defend themselves, like we do , why aren't you attacking them? what about Syria, more than 1400 people killed in there in the last 2 weeks, and you didn't even say a word on it.
Talking about any of those things is off topic, plus there's no need to discuss Hiroshima/Nagasaki etc since those attacks took place in the past, you are fighting right now... Also, it wasn't Americans that attacked the Indians, it was Europeans that went to the US, but again, that's centuries ago. Israel, and other countries, should've learned from all that and should find a diplomatic solution, and it would be quite easy if Israel just settled for the land they got and let the Palistinians have the rest
Where are your sources?
I spot so many lies in this.
Jews and Muslims NEVER lived in harmony! I don't know where you come from but here in Lebanon we are always under continuous threat to be attacked by Israel.
The Jew-Muslim fued dues way back into the birth of both religions.
Who ever wrote those was feeling extra-inspired to write such fiction.
You can say you spot many lies, but you have no right sources, you just speak your mind.
I send all the links I used in my posts, read them, the state of Lebanon did many wrong things as well, there is a reason why the Lebanon war, one and two started , and it's not that Israel is seeking for terror or any other bull****. Many Israelis died in these wars as well, I know more than just a few. Don't act like your country is saint and we are not. Believe me any other country in our position would act the same if not worse.
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I wish my country was humanitarian enough to willfully bomb four kids playing soccer on a beach
Tell me in which country do you live in, and I will prove you wrong
Not that I am justifying the dead kids, it's really sad though, but there were Hamas people in the beach when it's happened though
It's no use arguing with Israeli's...ever since WWII they think they are entitled to the entire world and scream antisemitism when you disagree with them on the smallest matter.. they abuse their role of the victim, but we are all new generations and even though it was a tragedy, they should get over it tbh... They feel attacked constantly, just like a lot of minorities in the US
It's what we see daily on the news, all those terrorist attacks on Palestine, killing innocent and wounded civilians, it's disgusting... You guys should just settle for the land you were officially given and give the rest back to the Palestinians
They were given a certain amount of land even though they have NO right in getting it and they just want to acquire more land.
Also they think that they are victims because Arabs declared war when it was announced as a state. What do they expect when a fellow Arab country is taken away and given to them! What do they expect we do when the Unity of the Arab World is at risk?
Talking about any of those things is off topic, plus there's no need to discuss Hiroshima/Nagasaki etc since those attacks took place in the past, you are fighting right now... Also, it wasn't Americans that attacked the Indians, it was Europeans that went to the US, but again, that's centuries ago. Israel, and other countries, should've learned from all that and should find a diplomatic solution, and it would be quite easy if Israel just settled for the land they got and let the Palistinians have the rest
Please, the Palestinians wouldn't even recognize Israel's exist so how can we even talk about diplomatic solution?
all they're trying to do is kill us.
Tell me in which country do you live in, and I will prove you wrong
Not that I am justifying the dead kids, it's really sad though, but there were Hamas people in the beach when it's happened though
Well, I live in the West Bank.
And the Palestinian PEOPLE (not Hamas) would never do that
And "There's a potential Hamas terrorist on this beach... But wait there's four children as well... Oh well poor dat" *fire*
Please, the Palestinians wouldn't even recognize Israel's exist so how can we even talk about diplomatic solution?
all they're trying to do is kill us.
No,, they are not, but as you could read in the statement by the League of Nations you are not entitled to your own state, you are entitled to a home/a place in the state of Palestine, so I can understand why Palestinians won't recognize you
They were given a certain amount of land even though they have NO right in getting it and they just want to acquire more land.
Also they think that they are victims because Arabs declared war when it was announced as a state. What do they expect when a fellow Arab country is taken away and given to them! What do they expect we do when the Unity of the Arab World is at risk?
A small country like Israel is a risk??
There are so many Arabic countries and only one Jewish country, how are we the risk?
No,, they are not, but as you could read in the statement by the League of Nations you are not entitled to your own state, you are entitled to a home/a place in the state of Palestine, so I can understand why Palestinians won't recognize you
Isn't Israel a home/a place in the land Palestine?
what's the problem here?