[Maki]

Originally posted by YM8

Saying medja took to britney more than em is false and not a solid argument

Please explain how did the media pay more attention to him throughout his career in comparison to her

[Mrs. Aaron Paul]

Originally posted by Amow.

When Britney debuted she was the blueprint for other female popstars. Record labels were scrambling to find "the next Britney". See: Xtina, Jessica Simpson, Mandy Moore etc.

Not to mention the majority of major young pop stars today have mentioned Britney as an influence (Gaga included).

Britney defined pop music in the 00s. The industry would literally not be the same without her.

em his impact on rap is felt even in 2014 directly though. all these articles about white rappers finding more and mroe success, that is directly credited to him. he made rap global, he opened an entire genre up to new demographics and changed the way rappers were marketed, which has had residual impact. he is also credited with influencing many artists in multiple genres (predominantly rap of course).

[Maki]

Originally posted by Amow.

When Britney debuted she was the blueprint for other female popstars. Record labels were scrambling to find "the next Britney". See: Xtina, Jessica Simpson, Mandy Moore etc.

Not to mention the majority of major young pop stars today have mentioned Britney as an influence (Gaga included).

Britney defined pop music in the 00s. The industry would literally not be the same without her.

[Eternium]

Originally posted by ToMmY

You mean Beyoncé stans, lol.

All I know is Britney and Eminem ******* on all of your faves in the past decade and that deserves an A-P-P-L-A-U-S-E.

:clap3

Originally posted by Maki

why are beyonce fans still SO bothered and iron pressed over Britney and her much more iconic career/status in pop music if their fave is the second coming of jesus christ

Second to Jesus Christ, second to Thriller, second to Britney Spears. I'm starting to notice a pattern. At least her stans are always first to run in to a thread and proclaim she's #1 in their hearts.

Originally posted by Maleficent

No, it hasn't. Femme Fatale has a higher metacritic score than both Relapse and Recovery.

More proof that critical respect is bought

Originally posted by Mrs. Aaron Paul

@Eternium, sorry my quoting function was being weird. Yes, legends have often lost respect for various reasons (em has had his share of bad press too, im not delusional enough to deny it) but i think, in almost all cases, they were so respected as artists for their music that it didnt hurt their ultimate status as legends. im skeptical that britney has that

She was able to come back after her meltdown with a 505,000 opening week off of one performance in the U.S. I don't think her controversy has nearly hindered her as much as this site likes to believe. Her current promotions are falling short and her albums are bombing because of it and I'm sure her aging doesn't help (has it ever helped a pop girl), but we can still see her impact living on. Miley Cyrus had the biggest pop culture moment of 2013 by paying homage to her iconic performance. Selena Gomez spent all of 2013 recreated "OIDIA" imagery and replicating "IAS4U's" live performance style to try and promote "Come & Get It." I have a hard time believing people will forget about her, though I guess we'll see.

Originally posted by YM8

Your comparing pop girl to rap artist hmmm ok

They are both legends in their own genre

Agreed completely.

Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)

Yes...the Beastie's were before Vanilla. But The Beasties only appealed to a generally white audience. Vanilla was the first to attempt "urban" Rap music, and be successful "initially" at it.

The Beastie's appealed to just about everyone, except for the pop fans who originally wanted them gone from Madonna's tour. I don't think you all realize their impact. They helped set-up Def Jam records and started the trend of stealing hood ornaments to make necklaces (which was a huge trend in the late 80s, early 90s; not sure if an ATRLer would know about it). Their music was considered urban and ridiculously controversial for their time. Do you guys even know what "Sabotage" is?

Originally posted by YM8

Your crazy

No one in the history of the music industry has battled more controversy than Marshall Mathers

Sis, I know you don't believe that

[Amow.]

[QUOTE=NeverSincerely;22909689]Local?
His latest album sold 2 mill outside of the U.S. He was the most global male solo artist on IFPI
[QUOTE]

It's a known fact that rap music sells better than pop music in today's industry, like

[ToMmY]

Originally posted by Mrs. Aaron Paul

dont worry about me honey, i did vote

I know you did, hun.

[Mrs. Aaron Paul]

Originally posted by Amow.

It's a known fact that rap music sells better than pop music in today's industry, like

the second best selling rap album of the year, Drake's, sold about 500k outside the US. no rappers sell like him worldwide. its a fact. stop with the excuses when you havent done your research.

[NeverSincerely]

Originally posted by Amow.

It's a known fact that rap music sells better than pop music in today's industry, like

It's a known fact that rap is local as hell, like

[Legacy]

[QUOTE=Amow.;22909809][QUOTE=NeverSincerely;22909689]Local?
His latest album sold 2 mill outside of the U.S. He was the most global male solo artist on IFPI

It's a known fact that rap music sells better than pop music in today's industry, like

Why can't Drake or Kanye sell that much then?

[YM8]

Eminem battled media thru:

1) racism in the industry for being a white rapper trying to enter a black genre

2) he battled having to defend his so called anti gay lyrics for using words such as "fagg*ts" and "qu**r"

3) he battled the media paparrazi his whole life following him and tabloids constantly writing about his personal life with kim or his mom

4) media bashed him for always writing about other artists dissing them or making fun of them

5) he battled the media thru his drug addiction during a time where he lost his childhood friend proof

And i can go on and on

So media never took to em ?? Just bc he was stronger about it doesnt mean he hasnt dealt with them

[Amow.]

I don't see any young rappers naming Eminem as an influence like young popstars are naming Britney as an influence.

[Giselle]

Originally posted by Eternium

Britney was able to be more controversial and impactful because of her status as a female. Eminem was able to retain his commercial power despite aging because of his status as a male.

I'm gonna go with Britney because she's going to get downplayed on here as just about everybody on this thread stans for a lesser female and sees Britney as competition and Eminem as harmless.

The try hard shade Nobody sees Britney as a threat.

[Mrs. Aaron Paul]

Originally posted by Rei

According to Wikipedia his first album Infinite has sold less than 10,000 in the US + various flop singles

that was before he signed to interscope. obviously, the intent was, since he hit it big in 99, he has never had a flop album. thats impressive when youve released 7 albums since then, and more if compilations count.

[Mezter]

Originally posted by Amow.

It's a known fact that rap music sells better than pop music in today's industry, like

Child, just admit you're wrong. Your logic FLOPPED

[ToMmY]

Originally posted by Mrs. Aaron Paul

the second best selling rap album of the year, Drake's, sold about 500k outside the US. no rappers sell like him worldwide. its a fact. stop with the excuses when you havent done your research.

That's because half of the world (I would say more but let's just say half) doesn't give a **** about rap music. A rap legend will never be bigger than a pop legend.

[Eternium]

Originally posted by Mezter

No one said that Y'all are the one coming for Eminem's tour receipts and not giving credit where it's due

You should really go back to the first page. I've been having an argument over the past few pages that both Britney and Eminem are legends and they both excel in different areas against people who are saying only Eminem is a legend and Britney has no lasting impact or legacy or respect, etc. How are the Britney stans not giving credit where it's due when we're just bringing the receipts against these other stanbases trying to hide behind Eminem to belittle Britney's massive career?

[YM8]

Originally posted by Amow.

I don't see any young rappers naming Eminem as an influence like young popstars are naming Britney as an influence.

After reading a couple of your posts and then viewing your profile as a "pop fan" yep its pretty clear your clueless when it comes to rap and hip hop no offense lol

[Mrs. Aaron Paul]

Originally posted by Amow.

I don't see any young rappers naming Eminem as an influence like young popstars are naming Britney as an influence.

let me clear your vision a bit then
kendrick lamar
hopsin
tyler the creator
50 cent
BOB
chance the rapper
jon connor
angel haze
(non rap artists include: chris martin and lana del rey)
plus the artists that are signed to his label

[NeverSincerely]

Originally posted by Amow.

I don't see any young rappers naming Eminem as an influence like young popstars are naming Britney as an influence.

Girl stop.
Based on your last few posts you know next to nothing about Eminem. Plenty of young rappers list him as an influence/inspiration.

[Maki]

Originally posted by Giselle

The try hard shade Nobody sees Britney as a threat.

Obviously but the stans of lessors sure are pressed over the fact that their faves will never get close to the phenomenon Britney was and the iconic status she has in pop culture