[Retro]

Originally posted by Whatevaaaaa

*yawn*
Blah.
Irrelevant/irreverent
Try again.

Excuse me at the Tinashe shade?

[NX127]

Originally posted by Pop pop123

Artpop is a TERRIBLE album and deserves the tragic sales so is MDNA.

G.U.Y is a **** pop song. GENERIC AS ****. The melody... i heard that a billion times.

The G.U.Y then she says GUY over it...is horrendous awful disgusting confusing...my head explodes every time I hear that line.

says a Mariah Carey stan.

[Giselle]

I just searched and found posts calling singles "flops" all the way back in '05 In what year was ATRL created?

[Pop pop123]

This is what Applause sounds like to me.

[rihannafan]

Originally posted by Giselle

I just searched and found posts calling singles "flops" all the way back in '05 In what year was ATRL created?

99

[Retro]

Originally posted by Giselle

I just searched and found posts calling singles "flops" all the way back in '05 In what year was ATRL created?

1999! Or so. It's old.

[GreasyBruce]

I was on these movie forums and we called film flops in 2006. It's not an ATRL thing.

[Sunshine.]

[I]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

I think in the current market it is hard to call anything that sells near 4m or over a flop.

Femme Fatale - 1.7 mil
Unapologetic - 3.5 mil
4 - 2.6 mil
BEYONCE - 3.3 mil
TTAL - 6 mil
Born To Die - 5 mil
Red - 6 mil
UJ - 7 mil
20/20 - 5 mil
21 - 28 mil
Prism - 3 mil
ARTPOP - 1.8 mil
BTW - 6 mil

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Averages to about 6 mil.
Minus 1 mil for inflation and the average is around 5 mil.
Anything below average is failing.

[Lipton]

Originally posted by rihannafan

Flop is relative to initial expectations.

For example, everyone thought Beyonce would be the new 21, so anything under 10 million WW at least is a flop.

Exactly.

If Ke$ha sold 1.5M with her next album, that would be a success.
If Adele sold 1.5M with her next album, that would be a flop.

BERNARD was a fl0p both in expectations and drop-off after the first week or two of hype. Different artists have different expectations.

[Pop pop123]

Originally posted by NX127

says a Mariah Carey stan.

Me. I Am Mariah is acclaimed..try again.

Every song **** on Fartugly pop and MDNA.

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

I was on these movie forums and we called film flops in 2006. It's not an ATRL thing.

Yeah lol I'd noticed entertainment programs referring to flop movies/albums since the late 90s. It goes way back further than that.

[Whatevaaaaa]

Originally posted by 4AM.

Excuse me at the Tinashe shade?

I'm tired of bottoms throwing Queen Tina in for some cred.
Beatles/Enya/Tina?
I'm offended that he thinks I'd believe that BEYONCE-sized crock of ****.
Tina is god though don't forget.

[Lipton]

Originally posted by Sunshine.

[I]

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Averages to about 6 mil.
Minus 1 mil for inflation and the average is around 5 mil.
Anything below average is failing.

Take out Bruno and JT.

Add Ke$ha and MDNA.

[Elusive Chanteuse]

i cant wait for the rant about mariah being local from someone living in syria. a true kii.

[Lipton]

Actually, that list is all shady.

It should be Brett Eugene instead of FF. The sells have dropped already from the 2011 climate, so you need to use the letist relis.

[GreasyBruce]

UJ - 7 mil

[Sunshine.]

Originally posted by Whatevaaaaa

*yawn*
Blah.
Irrelevant/irreverent
Try again.

edgy

[rihannafan]

Originally posted by Elusive Chanteuse

i cant wait for the rant about mariah being local from someone living in syria. a true kii.

And what the hell is wrong with being from Syria?

[Damien M]

Originally posted by Pop pop123

Artpop is a TERRIBLE album and deserves the tragic sales so is MDNA.

G.U.Y is a **** pop song. GENERIC AS ****. The melody... i heard that a billion times.

The G.U.Y then she says GUY over it...is horrendous awful disgusting confusing...my head explodes every time I hear that line.

Lana was an even bigger fad than Gaga, and UV won't outsell Artpop.
You're in the same boat lol.

[slobro]

21 would've been #1 or #2 on that all-time list without piracy and streaming