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Discussion: Archived: The K-Pop Discussion Thread (#2)
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Originally posted by RichGirlPlanet
And Teddy makes the songs from scratch, but I'll give the asslickers a moment to cosign.  |
...But the people who write f(x)'s songs make them from scratch too. There's no difference.
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Member Since: 9/19/2011
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Originally posted by jongshic
What does Teddy making the song from scratch have to do with anything.
2NE1 takes the song they get just like f(x)  |
They don't have to pay 11 demos to make an album, then paying Teddy Riley + having a songwriter to translate and rearrange the songs.
Less people to pay, more money saved in bank.
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Member Since: 6/21/2012
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Originally posted by Zack
This is going round in circles 
They only lack a strong fanbase because SM only wheels them out of the office once a year. They haven't had as much opportunity to make a connection with the public.
AND YET the public is still here for their different and interesting jams and contribute to their solid sales. SM started strong with f(x) during their debut, but gave up soon after, focusing on their flagship idols SNSD and EXO.
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You can't have your cake and eat it too. On one hand you're saying they don't have a strong fanbase because they're neglected, but then on the other hand you say the public IS actually here for them, resulting in their solid sales. So my question is, if they're selling as much as you say they are, why can't they fill up a venue? Who's buying their records and contributing to these high sales? I would hope f(x) fans. So why wouldn't these f(x) fans want to see them live? Could it be because 1) they're not actually f(x) stans just casual fans/listeners (because as we know f(x) is boring as **** so who really would want to stan them?) or 2) the public really isn't here for them like that, aka little demand? Little demand = less releases....
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
I really don't see Jungsis working. Both of them are some of the biggest slackers in their group when it comes to performing...Both of them together and they have no other members to distract the audience from their half-assing.
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Krystal I agree with, she's lazy yeah. But Jessica is one of the best in SNSD when she really wants to be.
I think they'd have the "cool" vibe if they released material. Say Yes was amazing (when you leave out the Kris rap), I could easily see a Korean version doing well. their voices work really well, and I don't think stage presence is really that much of an issue given their popularity.
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Member Since: 3/2/2014
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Originally posted by Regina
You can't have your cake and eat it too. On one hand you're saying they don't have a strong fanbase because they're neglected, but then on the other hand you say the public IS actually here for them, resulting in their solid sales. So my question is, if they're selling as much as you say they are, why can't they fill up a venue? Who's buying their records and contributing to these high sales? I would hope f(x) fans. So why wouldn't these f(x) fans want to see them live? Could it be because 1) they're not actually f(x) stans just casual fans/listeners (because as we know f(x) is boring **** so who really would want to stan them?) or 2) the public really isn't here for them like that, aka little demand? Little demand = less releases....
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But how do we know they can't fill up a venue when there isn't a concert for it to happen in the first place 
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Member Since: 3/2/2014
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Originally posted by Xalric
They don't have to pay 11 demos to make an album, then paying Teddy Riley + having a songwriter to translate and rearrange the songs.
Less people to pay, more money saved in bank.
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Those demos are probably not very expensive, it's SaveMore after all 
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Member Since: 2/18/2012
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Originally posted by Xalric
They don't have to pay 11 demos to make an album, then paying Teddy Riley + having a songwriter to translate and rearrange the songs.
Less people to pay, more money saved in bank.
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The work ethic is still the same. Teddy writes x amount of songs and plays them to 2NE1 and they pick the ones they like and they record them, just like SM picks x amount of songs from a demo-pool and f(x) pick the ones they like and they record them. There's no difference in Teddy and SM's writers.
Like, I like 2NE1, so I'm not bashing them, but it's such a stupid argument to make when they're both on the same boat.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Jared
Nnnnn @ people being pressed over f(x) for no reason. Like....  |
I dont think they are pressed with F(x), just with the f(x) stans... and as a complete neutral on the subject, i think the anti f(x) are having better arguments so far...
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Regina
You can't have your cake and eat it too. On one hand you're saying they don't have a strong fanbase because they're neglected, but then on the other hand you say the public IS actually here for them, resulting in their solid sales. So my question is, if they're selling as much as you say they are, why can't they fill up a venue? Who's buying their records and contributing to these high sales? I would hope f(x) fans. So why wouldn't these f(x) fans want to see them live? Could it be because 1) they're not actually f(x) stans just casual fans/listeners (because as we know f(x) is boring as **** so who really would want to stan them?) or 2) the public really isn't here for them like that, aka little demand? Little demand = less releases....
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Sis you are looking so pressed about f(x). They have strong sales because they deliver bops.
But they CAN'T form a proper connection with fans if they only get one release a year. Besides their handful of hits, a concert wouldn't be that interesting because they don't have as many songs as their counterparts at SM.
It's not hard to see that people are here for f(x) music, but don't know enough about them/see enough of them to be fully invested in a concert etc.
If they were just casual listeners, they would not have been getting such consistent sales. Their sales would be falling if it was based so much on casual listeners like you say, but they have stayed consistent because there is a continued interest in f(x). It's not that hard to understand.
Obviously it's not enough to lead to a concert because they simply haven't been able to make as much of a connection as say SNSD for example.
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At 2NE1 recording europop English demos uploaded on YouTube from years before. Sherlockshic better expose.
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Originally posted by sunny phoenix
I dont think they are pressed with F(x), just with the f(x) stans... and as a complete neutral on the subject, i think the anti f(x) are having better arguments so far...
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Exactly. At the end of they day, f(x) has given me some great bops and they are gorgeous girls so I don't hate them or dislike them. But the way f(x) fans are so cocky in this thread and acting like elitist is just so 
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Originally posted by Zack
Krystal I agree with, she's lazy yeah. But Jessica is one of the best in SNSD when she really wants to be.
I think they'd have the "cool" vibe if they released material. Say Yes was amazing (when you leave out the Kris rap), I could easily see a Korean version doing well. their voices work really well, and I don't think stage presence is really that much of an issue given their popularity.
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Well if they both can get their **** together and attempt to perform up to standard then I'm all for them getting a subunit. They are cute together and both are decent singers (Jessica being more than decent though) so I'm here for some bops. I just don't feel like seeing two girls get the privilege of being in a sub-unit when their performances make it seem like they don't even care
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Until we can find writing credits with an f(x) member on them, your arguments remain invalid.
f(x) has been around just as long, has released just as many LPs, etc.
I mean, yes, we can dwell in the past, but presently 2NE1 is more involved with their product (might just be CL for now, but that's one member more than f(x) hihi).
It seems the f(x) stans try to discredit and then call everybody else pressed.
It's time to step outside of the lit up SaveMore purchased box and into reality.
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Someone said Amber had credits on Goodbye Summer (?) not sure though
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Amber wrote Goodbye Summer and Paper Heart 
Google is your friend
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Originally posted by RichGirlPlanet
Until we can find writing credits with an f(x) member on them, your arguments remain invalid.
f(x) has been around just as long, has released just as many LPs, etc.
I mean, yes, we can dwell in the past, but presently 2NE1 is more involved with their product (might just be CL for now, but that's one member more than f(x) hihi).
It seems the f(x) stans try to discredit and then call everybody else pressed.
It's time to step outside of the lit up SaveMore purchased box and into reality.
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But CL didn't have a writing credit until Crush, so let's not get too ahead of ourselves.
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Member Since: 5/24/2011
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And CL has credits on half their latest album, but YES f(ail).
What kinda Taylor Swift teas?
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Member Since: 5/24/2011
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Originally posted by Jack!
But CL didn't have a writing credit until Crush, so let's not get too ahead of ourselves.
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Oh, you mean their latest release?
Tell us more. 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by RichGirlPlanet
And CL has credits on half their latest album, but YES f(ail).
What kinda Taylor Swift teas?
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f(ail) is a new one
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Originally posted by Jack!
But CL didn't have a writing credit until Crush, so let's not get too ahead of ourselves.
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Gotta start somewhere.
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