| |
Discussion: Is "Writing" Your Own Songs Tragically Overrated?
Member Since: 8/31/2013
Posts: 6,548
|
its a talent, the same way that singing is a talent. is vocal skill overrated?
personally, artists that write their own lyrics are usually my favorites. they can inject personal details and their own personality into their music. it gives me more to connect with when im listening to the songs.
theres nothing really wrong with not writing your own songs, but it is a talent that some people have and others dont.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 2/2/2014
Posts: 302
|
Its only overrated among the stan bases. The others dont care that much about it tbh
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 15,128
|
No. Even of the lyrics are bad, it at least makes the song seem more authentic and relatable if you know its from the singers' actual perspective.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 8/31/2013
Posts: 9,758
|
Quote:
Originally posted by holyground
Actors aren't expected to write their own scripts. If they do, then they're not just mere actors. They're would be credited as a writer too.
It's not wrong to not write your songs. Songwriting is a talent equal to singing and dancing. Singers who don't write are just singers, with the avenue of expressing their artistry through the voice. Songwriters express through their lyrics.
There is no double standards. The reason why many criticise some current artists for not being able to write is either because they tout themselves as a writer or they lack the ability to sing or dance, making them basically a puppet, not an artist at all. No one criticise Whitney for not writing her songs.
|
It is so a double standard because people do get shaded for not writing their own songs, some of whom have stans in this thread. Lots of music fans see songwriting as an integral part of being a singer and some singers feel the exact same eg mariah. There is definitely a culture where the singers who don't write their own songs get labelled as an industry puppet or manufactured brand, whereas in actors it's clearly not the case. The same with classical musicians.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 4/3/2014
Posts: 7,895
|
Quote:
Originally posted by castle13
Considered overrated by stans of artists who lack songwriting ability
|
.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 50
|
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 14,905
|
Quote:
Originally posted by SmokeOnDiamonds
Let's go to the beach, each, let's go get away >>>>> anything Tupac ever wrote  |
Nicki didn't write Starships though
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 14,905
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Samuel
No, only stans of someone who doesn't would say it is. I'd never stan for someone that doesn't write their own material and just shows up and sings a song 6 other people wrote for them.
|
uh I'm not quite sure what you mean here
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 11/27/2011
Posts: 15,434
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Black Umbrella
That's talent???????
"You a stupid hoe / You a / You a stupid hoe / (stupid, stupid)."
Okay then:
Yay I'm so talented !! I even used more words than Nicki so I'm more talented !!
|
I'm sorry but your response is so 
There's GOOD songwriting and BAD songwriting. Just because you write songs, it doesn't mean you're good at it.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 5/22/2011
Posts: 21,227
|
Song writing isn't the be all end all. For example, Carrie Underwood wrote over 100 songs for the Blown Away era. But why would she turn down "Blown Away" for a song she wrote that's weaker lyrically? Nobody's going to say "Wow I like this album more because she chose to only take songs she wrote" they're going to think she was a ****ing idiot for turning down Blown Away.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 2/6/2010
Posts: 27,892
|
I mean when you write songs well they sound good.
If you write your own lyrics that sound stupid then its because you're stupid...just like an essay or poetry.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 8,579
|
Writing them well is a sign of talent (for example, Britney Spears wrote Everytime which is amazing)
Now that said, just writing a song doesn't mean your talented. Anyone can write a sucky song. Writing a good song is what's impressive. And I'm sure everyone has a few duds here and there, so I go by overall song quality
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 6,565
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Notorious K.E.N
Please be quite  |
Was this warned for the spelling? 
---
No, it's not overrated. It's a gift if you can do it well. Remember that writing includes the melody too, not just the lyrics.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/2/2014
Posts: 7,343
|
Songwriting is respected by the gp as much as atrl, and this is coming from a Britney/Rihanna fan
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 4/12/2008
Posts: 11,333
|
I knew this was made by a Rihanna fan. 
And no, it's not overrated. Of course there are bad songwriters, for example, Rebecca Black didn't write Friday.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 9/20/2011
Posts: 137
|
No. But with some artists, just because you can doesn't mean you should.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 6/2/2012
Posts: 37,284
|
Quote:
Originally posted by lightstheyblindme
Nicki didn't write Starships though
|
She wrote the verses.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/27/2012
Posts: 3,188
|
Not at all overrated. It is rated highly, which is where it belongs. Odds are, if all your songs are being handed to you pre-written by men in suits sitting in a conference room, they will be terrible, impersonal, and you as an artist will not be able to connect with them, and an artist's emotional connection to the material they are performing is what REALLY makes things pop.
I don't pay attention to the ladies in my sig, so I don't know how much, if any, they write, but if I was to be informed that any of them had a heavy hand in writing all of their songs, I would begrudgingly give them a few respect points and hate them a bit less.
A little bit of songwriting goes a long way toward being a credible artist. Even if your lyrics are cheesy at times, at least you wrote them.
I have much disdain for anyone I see in this thread saying writing doesn't mean anything. Like what kind of sad human being thinks that?
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/27/2012
Posts: 3,188
|
I'd like to point out regarding Nicki that people write good songs and people write bad songs, if someone's written several really good songs in their past, you shouldn't judge them for having a few duds.
Or should I judge Mariah's songwriting ability based solely on Touch My Body?
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 6/25/2012
Posts: 41,860
|
Quote:
Originally posted by OprahIsBlack
Not at all overrated. It is rated highly, which is where it belongs. Odds are, if all your songs are being handed to you pre-written by men in suits sitting in a conference room, they will be terrible, impersonal, and you as an artist will not be able to connect with them, and an artist's emotional connection to the material they are performing is what REALLY makes things pop.
I don't pay attention to the ladies in my sig, so I don't know how much, if any, they write, but if I was to be informed that any of them had a heavy hand in writing all of their songs, I would begrudgingly give them a few respect points and hate them a bit less.
A little bit of songwriting goes a long way toward being a credible artist. Even if your lyrics are cheesy at times, at least you wrote them.
I have much disdain for anyone I see in this thread saying writing doesn't mean anything. Like what kind of sad human being thinks that?
|
Quote:
1. "Tim McGraw" Taylor Swift, Liz Rose 3:54
2. "Picture to Burn" Swift, Rose 2:57
3. "Teardrops on My Guitar" Swift, Rose 3:36
4. "A Place in This World" Swift, Robert Ellis Orrall, Angelo Petraglia 3:22
5. "Cold as You" Swift, Rose 4:01
6. "The Outside" Swift 3:29
7. "Tied Together with a Smile" Swift, Rose 4:11
8. "Stay Beautiful" Swift, Rose 4:00
9. "Should've Said No" Swift 4:06
10. "Mary's Song (Oh My My My)" Swift, Rose 3:35
11. "Our Song" Swift 3:24
|
Quote:
1. "Fearless" Taylor Swift, Liz Rose, Hillary Lindsey 4:01
2. "Fifteen" Swift 4:54
3. "Love Story" Swift 3:57
4. "Hey Stephen" Swift 4:12
5. "White Horse" Swift, Rose 3:55
6. "You Belong with Me" Swift, Rose 3:51
7. "Breathe" (featuring Colbie Caillat) Swift, Colbie Caillat 4:23
8. "Tell Me Why" Swift, Rose 3:20
9. "You're Not Sorry" Swift 4:22
10. "The Way I Loved You" Swift, John Rich 4:07
11. "Forever & Always" Swift 3:46
12. "The Best Day" Swift 4:07
13. "Change" Swift 4:39
|
Quote:
1. "Mine" 3:50
2. "Sparks Fly" 4:20
3. "Back to December" 4:53
4. "Speak Now" 4:00
5. "Dear John" 6:43
6. "Mean" 3:57
7. "The Story of Us" 4:25
8. "Never Grow Up" 4:50
9. "Enchanted" 5:52
10. "Better than Revenge" 3:37
11. "Innocent" 5:02
12. "Haunted" 4:02
13. "Last Kiss" 6:07
14. "Long Live" 5:17
All songs written and composed by Taylor Swift.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
